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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: law and image
> Hi, Alan,
>
> What people buy and why they buy it is a pretty darned complex issue.
--snip--
Hi, Alan,
What people buy and why they buy it is a pretty darned complex issue.
[...]
frank theriault
And never discount stupidity. Folks are pretty dumb on average. When I was
selling cameras and audio I watched a training film which shared some market
research indicating that 75% of peopl
I hear a lot of Nikon and Epson. I just wonder
about how many people here that own a digital Pentax product (Optios)
invest
large sums of money in the so-called digital darkroom area. From what I
gather, those that speak about Epson and Nikon and Canon are not using
Pentax cameras. Just some th
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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: law and image
> Hi Brad,
>
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:23:27 -0400, Brad Dobo wrote:
>
> > I hear a lot of Nikon and Epson. I just wonder
> >about how many people here that own a digital Pentax product (Optios)
Hi Brad,
On Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:23:27 -0400, Brad Dobo wrote:
> I hear a lot of Nikon and Epson. I just wonder
>about how many people here that own a digital Pentax product (Optios) invest
>large sums of money in the so-called digital darkroom area. From what I
>gather, those that speak about
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Bob Walkden wrote:
> months ago. The recent thread on whether or not to have a FAQ could
> profitably be extended to include a FAC - Frequently-Argued Crap. We
As the designated FAQ writer, I'll be glad to include this topic as well.
:)
I realized as I was writing the other o
yed for
> very long. An officer whose testimony won't be accepted in court is useless.
> When your credibility in one area is damaged, it calls everything else
> you've done into question.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Steve Desjardins" <[EMAIL PROTECT
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Wendy Beard wrote:
> And have you noticed how *noisy* all the cameras are. They all have a
> huge flash on them that sounds like it's powered by explosive powder
> and all the shutters go CLUNK very loudly. They are all usually
> mechanical cameras too that they have to wind
> My household pathologist uses digital and film for her photos. It makes no
> difference in court which is presented.
Mark,
I really couldn't argue with you when my only evidence is 'CSI' :-) I
admit I have no up-to-date knowledge of the UK system, I only know that
digital has been controversia
Well, thank you, Dan! :-)
Every so often, shadows of my past life are drawn out of dark quarters of my
mind by memory triggers. I guess this thread is one of those triggers...
BTW, my comments related to criminal trials, but the same rules of evidence
regarding exhibits would apply to civil tri
>> Well if you've seen any images out of Bali in the last ten days of so
>> the teams of evidence gathering personel all seem to have digicams in
>> hand, I haven't seen a film camera yet.
>
>Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV
>programmes such as CSI, Silent Wit
Holy shit!
Dr E D F Williams
http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002
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From: "Chaso DeChaso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:16 PM
s
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002
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From: "Chaso DeChaso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: law and image
I've attemped to establish film a
>Chris wrote:
>Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime' TV
>programmes such as CSI, Silent Witness, Dalziel & Pascoe, etc as my
>flipping family seem to be then all you tend to see is film cameras being
>used by forensics/pathologists.
In the news coverage of the sniper
So what you saying is things are back to normal?
Feroze
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: law and image
> Daniel,
>
> Few of DeChaso's l
On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Rob Studdert wrote:
> Well if you've seen any images out of Bali in the last ten days of so
> the teams of evidence gathering personel all seem to have digicams in
> hand, I haven't seen a film camera yet.
Not to disagree or anything but... if you are as addicted to 'crime'
h 30, 2002
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From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: law and image
> Your reply makes no sense to me at all.
>
> Chaso DeChaso wrote:
>
> > Can I cite course
"Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You are essentially correct. The photographer -- or someone else who
>observed the scene being depicted -- must testify that the image
>accurately reflects the conditions in issue at the time in question. No
>one every inquires as to whether the im
On 23 Oct 2002 at 7:41, Chaso DeChaso wrote:
> And so...? (Make a conclusion, if you will.)
It's an observation (reality), make of it what you will, I'm not partaking in
"the joy of argument".
Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Try contacting the Evidence Photographers International Conference, they're
located in Pennsylvania.
Ken Waller
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From: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: law and image
Well, I haven't done a trial in many years, but I think that what many
here (obviously not you, Dan) don't realize, is that the vast majority
of photographs submitted as exhibits in a trial are ~not~
controversial. They depict crime scenes - where the "body" was found, a
smashed window where entry
This is very interesting because we have the existence
of originals in all art forms before electronic media
in which the idea of the original looses its sense.
The original is a difficult thing to define. Like the
color red, it is something that can be defined the
best one can, and then easily d
My meaning of the original, I've been told, is the first photo as it exists on the negative or the disk.
Thaks for asking.
Paul G.
Original picture, not subject.You have to remember that the most
important thing is to have the person who took the picture say, "it looked like
that".
BR
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And would someone like to define "original"?
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> Folks:
>
> Snip>
> So long as the original is available,
Snip
And would someone like to define "original"? I'm always very careful
about how much weight I give an "original." A lot of things can happen
between the object of interest and the film/sensor. Or,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Folks:
Snip>
So
long as the original is available,
Snip
And would someone like to define "original"? I'm always
very careful about how much weight I give an "original." A
lot of things can happen between the object of interest and the film/sensor.
Or, am I m
You are essentially correct. The photographer -- or someone else
who observed the scene being depicted -- must testify that the image accurately
reflects the conditions in issue at the time in question. No one
every inquires as to whether the image was originated by traditional photography
or
Folks:
It's been my experience, as an insurance investigator, that the standard has become whether or not the photographer can testify as to the authenticity of the photograph. That the substance of the photograph has not been compromised, They, the judges and atorney's, do not appear to be conc
Sorry. Let me research it a bit and get back to you.
I don't have any actual citations yet is what I was
saying - and then I was using the word citations in
a poetic sense below when refering to coursework.
Just now I have emailed a co-associate about it and
we'll look for some references if t
Your reply makes no sense to me at all.
Chaso DeChaso wrote:
> Can I cite coursework? The problem is I don't know a
> reference where the issue has been settled - and
> herein lies the non-existence of a standard.
Can I cite coursework? The problem is I don't know a
reference where the issue has been settled - and
herein lies the non-existence of a standard.
--- "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please cite your authority for the proposition that
> digital photographs
> are treated differen
Please cite your authority for the proposition that digital photographs
are treated differently under the law than traditional photographs.
Chaso DeChaso wrote:
> This topic is being debated tremendously in legal
> circles with nothing approaching uncontested or
> universal agreement on the matte
And so...? (Make a conclusion, if you will.)
--- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23 Oct 2002 at 7:24, Chaso DeChaso wrote:
>
> > This topic is being debated tremendously in legal
> > circles with nothing approaching uncontested or
> > universal agreement on the matter...which is odd
On 23 Oct 2002 at 7:24, Chaso DeChaso wrote:
> This topic is being debated tremendously in legal
> circles with nothing approaching uncontested or
> universal agreement on the matter...which is odd
> considering the two media are viewed in precisely the
> same way according to so many on this list
This topic is being debated tremendously in legal
circles with nothing approaching uncontested or
universal agreement on the matter...which is odd
considering the two media are viewed in precisely the
same way according to so many on this list. Even if
you love digital images, at least understand
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