Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Boris Liberman
Zos, my reply interspersed. I also took the liberty and used * symbols to outline some things that kind of jumped to my eyes. On 12/27/2013 8:00 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: Let's see. As a walk around lens this is ideal. Compared to the DA*16-50 its: Smaller Lighter Slower Less Range Both have WR.

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Boris Liberman
On 12/27/2013 5:59 AM, Bill wrote: I'm really asking myself that question right now. Don't get me wrong, it's a gorgeous lens, and *the short zoom range makes it like an extended range standard lens*, it's sharp and has nice bokeh.. The problem is it's big, and at 2/3 of a pound, it isn't light,

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 26/12/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm curious, what is the appeal of the 20-40? Other than size, what are the advantages of it over the 16-50? You have to use your legs a little bit more. #health -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
It's only WR if it says so on the bezel. Those who, like me, purchased 2008 versions of the 16-50, 50-135 60-250 have no more water resistance than our FA and F lenses. On Dec 26, 2013, at 17:49 , Paul Stenquist wrote: The 16-50 is weather resistant. I've shot with it in pouring rain.

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
All DA star zooms are weather resistant as far as I know. Paul via phone On Dec 28, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: It's only WR if it says so on the bezel. Those who, like me, purchased 2008 versions of the 16-50, 50-135 60-250 have no more water

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: It's only WR if it says so on the bezel. Those who, like me, purchased 2008 versions of the 16-50, 50-135 60-250 have no more water resistance than our FA and F lenses. The February 2007 press release says: The smc

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: It's only WR if it says so on the bezel. Those who, like me, purchased 2008 versions of the 16-50, 50-135 60-250 have no more water resistance

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
I may be wrong. My three 4 DA* lenses have a rubbery seal at the lens mount that is black, and doesn't seem to stick out as far as the red seals do on the later lenses labeled WR. Perhaps Pentax was waiting to see how many defective lenses were returned before making a big deal about it with

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 28, 2013, at 18:35 , Bruce Walker wrote: Joe, looks like you've been missing out on a very useful feature of your lenses. :-) I actually do use my bodies and lenses in the Pacific Northwest Drizzleshine, but have stayed away from pouring rain, freezing cold, blowing dust sand, and

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread Yolanda Rowe
My DA*50-135 has worked a very rainy wedding or two. It has played in other inclement conditions. During a photography workshop, that same 50-135 took a shower in a sink after it and the K20D to which it was attached received a bath of fizzy, sticky root beer. I rushed into the ladies room to

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-28 Thread steve harley
on 2013-12-28 20:10 Joseph McAllister wrote That WR designation first showed up on the D-FA 100mm macro I believe. It's a much more recent marketing finesse anyway. My D-FA 100mm ƒ2.8 Macro has a hard plastic mating surface to the camera, and no mention of WR on the body or box. Ser. #5826425

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
Paul via phone On Dec 27, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Let's see. As a walk around lens this is ideal. Compared to the DA*16-50 its: Smaller Lighter Slower Less Range Both have WR. Its f2.8 on its wide end and f4 at 40mm. From the samples I saw it

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill wrote: On 26/12/2013 8:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Nothing has ever failed on my 16-50. I've been using it as a workhorse since August 2008. It's shot 10648 frames, first on a K100D, then K20D, and now K-3. My understanding is that SDM lenses that are used as daily drivers rarely, if

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Miserere
Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bill wrote: On 26/12/2013 8:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Nothing has ever failed on my 16-50. I've been using it as a workhorse since August 2008. It's shot 10648 frames, first on a K100D, then K20D, and now K-3. My understanding is that SDM lenses

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bill wrote: On 26/12/2013 8:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Nothing has ever failed on my 16-50. I've been using it as a workhorse since August 2008. It's shot 10648 frames, first on a K100D, then K20D, and now K-3. My understanding

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Miserere
Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Miserere wrote: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Bill wrote: On 26/12/2013 8:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Nothing has ever failed on my 16-50. I've been using it as a workhorse since August 2008. It's shot 10648 frames, first on a

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's quite a leap for someone who has apparently shot with neither . The 16-50 renders beautifully and can achieve focus at close range. For moderately small subjects like flowers or leaves I opt for it in place of my macro. The reason I went

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Dec 27, 2013, at 3:12 PM, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's quite a leap for someone who has apparently shot with neither . The 16-50 renders beautifully and can achieve focus at close range. For moderately small subjects like flowers

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote: I did not appreciate Pentax's reluctance to admit the problem, which did little to improve my image of them. But that's an ailment that afflicts all Japanese camera companies I think you could remove Japanese and camera from that sentence without reducing its accuracy much...

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-27 Thread Miserere
Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Miserere wrote: I did not appreciate Pentax's reluctance to admit the problem, which did little to improve my image of them. But that's an ailment that afflicts all Japanese camera companies I think you could remove Japanese and camera from that

questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Larry Colen
I'm curious, what is the appeal of the 20-40? Other than size, what are the advantages of it over the 16-50? If the advantage is size, how much smaller than the 16-50 is it? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Miserere
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm curious, what is the appeal of the 20-40? Other than size, what are the advantages of it over the 16-50? If the advantage is size, how much smaller than the 16-50 is it? How much smaller than the 18-50mm is the 31 Ltd? So it's about that difference.

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
The SDM on my 16-50 never failed. Exposure count is probably well over10k. Paul via phone On Dec 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm curious, what is the appeal of the 20-40? Other than size, what are the advantages of it over

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Stan Halpin
No problems here with SDM either, not for 16-50 or other DA* lenses. On Larry's question - why the 20-40? For me, it is two things. I've bought and sold many lenses; one of the few that I really regret selling is the FA20-35. The 20-40 allows me to have a renewed acquaintance with an updated

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
WR?? Paul via phone On Dec 26, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No problems here with SDM either, not for 16-50 or other DA* lenses. On Larry's question - why the 20-40? For me, it is two things. I've bought and sold many lenses; one of the few that I

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Sorry. WR = Weather Resistant. stan On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: WR?? Paul via phone On Dec 26, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: No problems here with SDM either, not for 16-50 or other DA* lenses. On Larry's question - why the

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
The 16-50 is weather resistant. I've shot with it in pouring rain. Paul via phone On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Sorry. WR = Weather Resistant. stan On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:19 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: WR?? Paul via phone On Dec 26,

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Bruce Walker
Nothing has ever failed on my 16-50. I've been using it as a workhorse since August 2008. It's shot 10648 frames, first on a K100D, then K20D, and now K-3. On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I'm curious, what is the appeal of

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Weather Resistant, I presume. The 20-35 was brilliant and a ver practical lens. I hope the 20-40 takes that role. Godfrey On Dec 26, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: WR?? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Stan Halpin
Right. All DA* lenses are weather resistant. I know that. Momentary brain cramp. stan On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: The 16-50 is weather resistant. I've shot with it in pouring rain. Paul via phone On Dec 26, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Bill
On 26/12/2013 8:00 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Nothing has ever failed on my 16-50. I've been using it as a workhorse since August 2008. It's shot 10648 frames, first on a K100D, then K20D, and now K-3. My understanding is that SDM lenses that are used as daily drivers rarely, if ever, have

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Bill
On 26/12/2013 5:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I'm curious, what is the appeal of the 20-40? Other than size, what are the advantages of it over the 16-50? If the advantage is size, how much smaller than the 16-50 is it? I'm really asking myself that question right now. Don't get me wrong, it's a

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread Zos Xavius
Let's see. As a walk around lens this is ideal. Compared to the DA*16-50 its: Smaller Lighter Slower Less Range Both have WR. Its f2.8 on its wide end and f4 at 40mm. From the samples I saw it rendered very nicely. Much better than the 16-50. Out of focus areas and the roll off are rather

Re: questions about the 20-40

2013-12-26 Thread steve harley
on 2013-12-26 23:00 Zos Xavius wrote I don't know what minimum focus is, but I suspect its closer than the 16-50. I fwiw, maximum magnification of the two lenses is about the same -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE