Re: OT: Richard Sandler

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 26.03.24 um 22:14 schrieb John Sessoms:
This URL might work. It's "archive.today", which people can take 
"snapshots" of articles that might be pay-walled somewhere.



The Guardian doesn't have a paywall. None at all.

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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

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ann sanfedele wrote:

>the guardian doesnt let me in

They've obviously heard about you. Probably from Cotty...
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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

[John Sessoms]

This URL might work. It's "archive.today", which people can take 
"snapshots" of articles that might be pay-walled somewhere.


https://archive.is/E6MS3

On 3/22/2024 5:49 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
the guardian doesnt let me in but I just put his name in google with 
image search and got tons of stuff..  we were shooting the city at the 
same time - the 60's through the 80's .. I've only shown others a very 
few photos that remotely resembled these cringe-worthy records of how it 
was , in the late 60's and early 70's in NY .. most of them are mean 
spirited showing everyone and everything in the worst possible light.. 
(figuratively).  They make me sad.


ann

On 3/22/2024 4:18 AM, mike wilson wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city
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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

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On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 05:49:38PM -0400, ann sanfedele wrote:
> the guardian doesnt let me in but I just put his name in google with image
> search and got tons of stuff..?? we were shooting the city at the same time
> - the 60's through the 80's .. I've only shown others a very few photos that
> remotely resembled these cringe-worthy records of how it was , in the late
> 60's and early 70's in NY .. most of them are mean spirited showing everyone
> and everything in the worst possible light.. (figuratively).?? They make me
> sad.
> 
> ann
> 
> On 3/22/2024 4:18 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> > https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city

You can't get there directly from that link, but the following longer link will 
take you there (albeit with an ignorable nag pop-up)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=web=j=89978449=https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/feb/27/between-the-streets-shades-of-new-york-in-pictures-richard-sandler-the-eyes-of-the-city=2ahUKEwj2pKHS9YiFAxWUAzQIHbsTDp4QFnoECCAQAQ=AOvVaw1_Tww7kF6jUvybWtZoIqLY


It's nice living near San Francisco!  Some months ago I visited the de Young 
museum
when they had an exhibition of Ansel Adams photographs, and now (until July 
21st)
they're showing photographs from Irving Penn, including a special section 
featuring
images from San Francisco's "Summer of Love".
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Re: OT: Richard Sandler

[ann sanfedele]

the guardian doesnt let me in but I just put his name in google with 
image search and got tons of stuff..  we were shooting the city at the 
same time - the 60's through the 80's .. I've only shown others a very 
few photos that remotely resembled these cringe-worthy records of how it 
was , in the late 60's and early 70's in NY .. most of them are mean 
spirited showing everyone and everything in the worst possible light.. 
(figuratively).  They make me sad.


ann

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Re: OT - Video editing and Post Production

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Thanks Jan :-)

Cotty

> On 19 Feb 2024, at 13:08, li...@dfsee.com wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUG0ZqttMNw 
>>  
>> > >
> 
> 
> Nice little tutorial!
> 
> 
> I knew most of it, but still learned some new tricks or insights
> 
> I may want to step up from my more amateurisch ‘MOVAVI’ NLE to something like 
> yours :-)
> 
> 
> Great work!

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Re: OT - Video editing and Post Production

[lists]

Hey Cotty,


> On 18 Feb 2024, at 23:43, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> Hi Pentaxers
> 
> I know some of you shoot video now and then, perhaps even do a little editing.
> 
> I’ve put together this *little* (ahem) film about the post-production process 
> for newbies that some might find interesting.
> 
> It’s in chapters for interrupted viewing.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUG0ZqttMNw 
> 


Nice little tutorial!


I knew most of it, but still learned some new tricks or insights

I may want to step up from my more amateurisch ‘MOVAVI’ NLE to something like 
yours :-)


Great work!


Regards, JvW


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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

thanks Bill, so its not me lol

Yes i found the remove tool to be a bit better


Dave

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 7:17 PM Bill  wrote:

> Man, I must have had beginners luck with that. I went in and tried again
> with the method I used the first time and got about a dozen failures in
> a row.
>
> So, I tried using the brush tool to paint in the tripod head so that
> Photoshop had a blank slate to work with and that seemed to work better.
>
> Generative fill is something akin to playing the slots, you can get a
> lot of losers to have a winner.
>
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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Man, I must have had beginners luck with that. I went in and tried again 
with the method I used the first time and got about a dozen failures in 
a row.


So, I tried using the brush tool to paint in the tripod head so that 
Photoshop had a blank slate to work with and that seemed to work better.


Generative fill is something akin to playing the slots, you can get a 
lot of losers to have a winner.


bill

On 2/9/2024 8:05 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Bill I did that but all it gave me were different versions of the
tripod head, I ll try it with a loser grab, i did have some success with
the remove tool

Dave





  directly above and

follow the directions.

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bill I did that but all it gave me were different versions of the
tripod head, I ll try it with a loser grab, i did have some success with
the remove tool

Dave



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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

so, it looks like I may have been trying to do this with the wrong tools,
saw a video on the removal tool which worked on my example photo.

Thanks to Bill and Bon for their generous help

DAVE

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:29 PM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024
>
> All my attempts agave failed miserably
>
> Dave
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>
> >
>> >
>> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg
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>> > Dave
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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I opened the image in Photoshop, drew quite loosely around the tripod 
head with the lasso tool, then edit/generative fill and clicked fill 
with nothing in the dialogue box.


If you do too tight a selection Photoshop will screw it up, it needs 
surrounding detail to create the fill so you need to give it plenty of 
elbow room. The selection I gave it was about the same size as the globe.


My understanding is that generative fill in it's present form creates 
everything at a maximum resolution of 1024x1024. The people who know 
more than me seem to be using fixed size boxes at that size and then 
doing multiple passes with generative fill with higher resolution images.


One of the things you might have received with your subscription is 
access to Photoshop Beta which is the test bed for Photoshop, so new 
features appear there and as they are perfected they then trickle into 
Photoshop 24 as updates.


For example, the image I posted was done on Photoshop Beta version 25.0.0


bill


On 2/5/2024 11:29 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024

All my attempts agave failed miserably

Dave

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:12 PM Bill  wrote:


https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd

It took about 10 seconds.

bill

On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures



http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:


In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

[David J Brooks]

Bill care to let me in on how? I’m now using PS 2024

All my attempts agave failed miserably

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On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 12:12 PM Bill  wrote:

> https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd
>
> It took about 10 seconds.
>
> bill
>
> On 2/5/2024 10:14 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
> > mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures
> >
> >
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
> >
> >> In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.
> >>
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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https://flic.kr/p/2pwAGZd

It took about 10 seconds.

bill

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this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 11:07 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:


In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

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[David J Brooks]

this is the photo im playing with, trying to remove some of the tripod
mount to zoom in, and suggestions on procedures

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2022-aurora1/album/index.html#20220510-_D723424.jpg

Dave

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> In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.
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Re: OT Photoshop 2024 help

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In the 2nd picture the dog looks like Joe Biden.

> On 5 Feb 2024, at 15:49, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.
> 
> Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE
> 
> Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78
> 
> bill
> 
> 
>> On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
>> imac M3.
>> I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
>> I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
>> flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
>> the ball in my finger.
>> I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
>> but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,
>> 
>> I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
>> locate the buttons or links needed todo so.
>> 
>> Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,
>> 
>> Dave .
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[Bill]

Rather than using content aware fill, try using generative fill.

Original image: https://flic.kr/p/2oEdfzE

Generative fill image: https://flic.kr/p/2oE8b78

bill


On 2/4/2024 11:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Hi all

Back in Dec my mid 2010 imac died and i recently replaced it with a 24"
imac M3.
I had to update my LR and PS to subscription base and did so last week
I'm not to good at PS, much better at LR, but one thing I use PS for is
flipping lens balls and trying to clone out a tripod mount if not holding
the ball in my finger.
I'm horrible at it and was hoping PS 2024 would be easier to do so it in
but i'm pulling my hair out to get content aware to do so,

I've looked at a number of utubes but nothing seems to work or cannot
locate the buttons or links needed todo so.

Asking the group if anyone has any helpful links they'd like tos hare,

Dave .


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Re: OT Not quite astro stuff

[Marco Alpert]

What Henk said. Thanks for that!

m

> On Jan 9, 2024, at 3:47 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Fascinating video!
> 
> Op 2024-01-09 om 06:43 schreef mike wilson:
>> I'm wondering why the EV/screen failed...
>>  https://youtu.be/SxkA82wORtw?si=QqvpvOW8eOgOi9XX
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Re: OT Not quite astro stuff

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Fascinating video!

Op 2024-01-09 om 06:43 schreef mike wilson:

I'm wondering why the EV/screen failed...
  
https://youtu.be/SxkA82wORtw?si=QqvpvOW8eOgOi9XX
  
  
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Re: OT: Mac and google maps ??

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I’ll try tha
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 5:12 PM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> Ios and Android devices using Google Maps are incapable of mimicking the
> desktop interface, so no you can’t do that. The only option you have is to
> select a route and amend it by clicking on the three little dots next to
> ‘your location’ and ‘add stop’ that will allow you to select a new
> ‘waypoint’ and so allowing you to modify the route. It may take some time
> :-)
>
> Cotty
>
>
>
> > On 15 Dec 2023, at 00:08, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > I’ve asked this on some facebook sites but not getting anywhere so I
> > thought I’d ask people that may know
> > On my Mac desktop if I plot out a route on google maps if I don’t like
> it I
> > can grab points on the rout and move them to were I want, but on my 12
> mini
> > and 9th generation iPad it won’t let me do it all I can do is move the
> map
> > around
> >
> > Any ideas??
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Re: OT: Mac and google maps ??

[Steve Cottrell]

Ios and Android devices using Google Maps are incapable of mimicking the 
desktop interface, so no you can’t do that. The only option you have is to 
select a route and amend it by clicking on the three little dots next to ‘your 
location’ and ‘add stop’ that will allow you to select a new ‘waypoint’ and so 
allowing you to modify the route. It may take some time :-)

Cotty



> On 15 Dec 2023, at 00:08, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I’ve asked this on some facebook sites but not getting anywhere so I
> thought I’d ask people that may know
> On my Mac desktop if I plot out a route on google maps if I don’t like it I
> can grab points on the rout and move them to were I want, but on my 12 mini
> and 9th generation iPad it won’t let me do it all I can do is move the map
> around
> 
> Any ideas??

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Re: OT maps help

[John Sessoms]

Can you export a route you created on your desktop to your IOS device?

On 12/15/2023 2:42 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Thanks Bob

I can drag them on the desk top just not on the iOS units

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:12 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:


You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop
on the … menu.

You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list.

As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.


On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin 

wrote:


I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t

see a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route,
Maps quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for
planning, I seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options
offered up.


Sent from my iPad


On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks 

wrote:


I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any

advice

for me so here his my questions,

On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone

and

iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
generation iPhone 12 mini

Any ideas

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Re: OT maps help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bob

I can drag them on the desk top just not on the iOS units

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On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 4:12 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:

> You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop
> on the … menu.
>
> You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list.
>
> As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.
>
> > On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin 
> wrote:
> >
> > I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t
> see a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route,
> Maps quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for
> planning, I seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options
> offered up.
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any
> advice
> >> for me so here his my questions,
> >>
> >> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
> >> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone
> and
> >> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
> >> generation iPhone 12 mini
> >>
> >> Any ideas
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
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> >> York Region, Ontario, Canada
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Re: OT maps help

[David J Brooks]

Paul no I have not but I’ll try it

Stan seems to be the way then

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On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 11:02 AM Stan Halpin 
wrote:

> I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t
> see a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route,
> Maps quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for
> planning, I seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options
> offered up.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any
> advice
> > for me so here his my questions,
> >
> > On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
> > points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone
> and
> > iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
> > generation iPhone 12 mini
> >
> > Any ideas
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
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> > www.caughtinmotion.com
> > http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: OT maps help

[Paul Sorenson]

If you're logged in to your google account when using google maps on 
your computer can you create the route you want by dragging points and 
then saving that route and pulling the saved route up on your iPad or 
iPhone? I haven't tried this...just wondering...


-p

On 12/13/2023 5:57 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
for me so here his my questions,

On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
generation iPhone 12 mini

Any ideas

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Re: OT maps help

[Bob W PDML]

You can add stops either by press/holding a waypoint or by using Add Stop on 
the … menu. 

You can rearrange the stops by dragging them around in the list. 

As far as I know you can’t drag them around on the map.

> On 14 Dec 2023, at 04:53, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
> I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t see 
> a way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route, Maps 
> quickly adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for planning, I 
> seem to be stuck just choosing from the three route options offered up.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
>> for me so here his my questions,
>> 
>> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
>> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
>> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
>> generation iPhone 12 mini
>> 
>> Any ideas
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
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>> www.caughtinmotion.com
>> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: OT maps help

[Stan Halpin]

I know what you mean, have used G maps that way myself. On iOS, I don’t see a 
way. I know that, when driving, if I turn off the selected route, Maps quickly 
adjusts, does a silent recalc, and on from there. But for planning, I seem to 
be stuck just choosing from the three route options offered up.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 13, 2023, at 6:58 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> I joined some iPad and iPhone groups but they don’t really have any advice
> for me so here his my questions,
> 
> On my iMac with google maps if I don’t like the directions I can grab
> points and move them to the streets I want to take, but with my iPhone and
> iPad I can’t, is there a way to do it or not with iOS devices, iPad 9th
> generation iPhone 12 mini
> 
> Any ideas
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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> www.caughtinmotion.com
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

yes, Lightroom Classic. Photo bundle @ US$9.95/mo.. It has everything you need. 
I download and install only LrC because it"s all I need, but the bundle gives 
access to PS, Lr, and other apps should you need or want to use them.

G

> On Dec 8, 2023, at 9:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Thanks all, the version Matt was using showed you can switch from cloud to
> desktop HD that’s the one that intrigues me but was unclear of the proper
> name
> 
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[David J Brooks]

Thanks all, the version Matt was using showed you can switch from cloud to
desktop HD that’s the one that intrigues me but was unclear of the proper
name

Dave

On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 12:11 PM Stanley Halpin 
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> I won’t claim to be an expert on this. I use LR Classic, currently at ver
> 13.0.1. My current images and catalog are on my computers HD, and backed up
> on external HDs. I keep older images on external HDs.
>
> LR (not LR Classic) is web based. You can put images onto your computer
> HD, but the working assumption is that they are stored in the Adobe cloud.
> The editing tools on LR are different and seem less useful IMHO than those
> in LR Classic. I think LR would be great for someone mostly using their
> phone as a camera.
>
> I sometimes use LR when traveling, and then transfer the images to my
> computer at home and import them into LR Classic.
> That is a complicated not very useful workflow, and so I have started
> either talking my computer with me when I travel, or I wait to
> review/edit/post any images untilI am back home. (My one computer is a 2021
> MacBook Pro; when at home it connects to a 27” monitor.)
>
>  My basic monthly subscription includes LR, LR Classic, Photoshop, some
> other Adobe stuff, and some online storage in the Adobe Cloud. I have no
> idea the pricing options, but back when I shifted from LR v.6, the annual
> cost for the bundle was about the same as I was paying each year to upgrade
> from 4 to 5 to 6…
>
> Stan
>
> > On Dec 8, 2023, at 10:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> >
> > Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac
> delivery
> > date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6
> but
> > confused with the new naming structure.
> > I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
> > editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
> > Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
> > Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use
> the
> > cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days
> > I confuse easily, as some may be aware, so any help is appreciated
> > I have looked at Matt K’s short video but still confused on Nan’s and
> plans
> >
> > Dave
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Stanley Halpin]

I won’t claim to be an expert on this. I use LR Classic, currently at ver 
13.0.1. My current images and catalog are on my computers HD, and backed up on 
external HDs. I keep older images on external HDs. 

LR (not LR Classic) is web based. You can put images onto your computer HD, but 
the working assumption is that they are stored in the Adobe cloud. The editing 
tools on LR are different and seem less useful IMHO than those in LR Classic. I 
think LR would be great for someone mostly using their phone as a camera.

I sometimes use LR when traveling, and then transfer the images to my computer 
at home and import them into LR Classic. 
That is a complicated not very useful workflow, and so I have started either 
talking my computer with me when I travel, or I wait to review/edit/post any 
images untilI am back home. (My one computer is a 2021 MacBook Pro; when at 
home it connects to a 27” monitor.)

 My basic monthly subscription includes LR, LR Classic, Photoshop, some other 
Adobe stuff, and some online storage in the Adobe Cloud. I have no idea the 
pricing options, but back when I shifted from LR v.6, the annual cost for the 
bundle was about the same as I was paying each year to upgrade from 4 to 5 to 6…

Stan

> On Dec 8, 2023, at 10:19 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery
> date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but
> confused with the new naming structure.
> I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
> editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
> Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
> Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use the
> cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days
> I confuse easily, as some may be aware, so any help is appreciated
> I have looked at Matt K’s short video but still confused on Nan’s and plans
> 
> Dave
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Re: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Toine]

Yes Lightroom Classic (LrC) is what you want. Lightroom (Lr) needs a real
cloud subscription (1 Tb), It also works with Lightroom Mobile. And all 3
can work together in the cloud.
Lightroom Classic is the one, the rest is nice (and expensive)

Toine

On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 17:37, Henk Terhell  wrote:

> For desktop editing you should get a subscription for Lightroom Classic
> with Photoshop. This is the cheapest option for which get only 20 GB cloud
> storage.
> You will be pleased with all the new features in Lightroom Classic
> compared to Lightroom version 6.
> I wouldn't look any further unless you only want to work in the cloud.
>
> Henk
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David J Brooks 
> Sent: vrijdag 8 december 2023 16:19
> To: Pentax Discuss 
> Subject: OT: Lightroom naming help
>
> Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery
> date unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but
> confused with the new naming structure.
> I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop
> editing from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names,
> Lightroom, Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
> Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use
> the cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days I confuse easily, as
> some may be aware, so any help is appreciated I have looked at Matt K’s
> short video but still confused on Nan’s and plans
>
> Dave
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RE: OT: Lightroom naming help

[Henk Terhell]

For desktop editing you should get a subscription for Lightroom Classic with 
Photoshop. This is the cheapest option for which get only 20 GB cloud storage.
You will be pleased with all the new features in Lightroom Classic compared to 
Lightroom version 6.
I wouldn't look any further unless you only want to work in the cloud.

Henk

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Sent: vrijdag 8 december 2023 16:19
To: Pentax Discuss 
Subject: OT: Lightroom naming help

Hey all. My old 2010 iMac has had it and I ordered a new 24” iMac delivery date 
unknown at this time. I know I’ll have to upgrade from my old LR 6 but confused 
with the new naming structure.
I just got a email from Matt K regarding a LR 7 that allows for desktop editing 
from folders on your own HD, but I’m confused about the names, Lightroom, 
Lightroom classic, Lightroom cc etc.
Isthe new edition still subscription based but I have the option to use the 
cloud or is it one time fee like the olden days I confuse easily, as some may 
be aware, so any help is appreciated I have looked at Matt K’s short video but 
still confused on Nan’s and plans

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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Ed Keeney]

All,

Thanks for the responses.  I think she's just going to use her flatbed scanner.

Thanks!
Ed

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 8:41 PM Ed Keeney  wrote:
>
> Long time lurker.
>
> My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
> scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
> Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).
>
> The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
> FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
> for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
> way or the other?
>
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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[John Sessoms]

If it's all 4x6 prints, the low end Epson would probably be the best bet 
(lowest cost).


The software bundled with the scanner should also be good enough.

The main thing is scanning takes time.

On 11/10/2023 8:41 PM, Ed Keeney wrote:

Long time lurker.

My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).

The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
way or the other?



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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Stan Halpin]

I have used ScanCafe for slides, no complaints.
But also I do have the Epson v 39 that has been mentioned, I use it mostly for 
documents. But I think it is ok for old family prints. Tomorrow I’ll scan and 
post an old family print which I’ll do at 100, 200, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 3600… 
We’ll see.

Stan

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> On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I would recommend using a service instead of buying a scanner. If your 
> sister is like most people, the scanning is a one time task .. to do good 
> scanning take time and practice … a *lot* of practice and a *lot* of time … 
> and then, once done, the scanner is of limited value and you have to put more 
> effort into selling it. Cheap scanners do a relatively poor job, the scanning 
> services all use the best scanners. Etc. 
> 
> The scanning services are run by people who are pretty expert at the task and 
> they do it efficiently and well, at a modest cost per photo. Scanning the 
> family archive is a one-time task for most people … get the whole lot done, 
> pay whatever it costs, and you're done: enjoy the photos. 
> 
> I've had good luck with ScanCafe.com … I've arranged and managed the scanning 
> process with them for several of my old clients (when I was still working). 
> Their prices are reasonable, and they give you some options in the kind of 
> quality and costs, depending on your need/use of the photos. 
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> Godfrey
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
>> 
>> Long time lurker.
>> 
>> My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
>> scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
>> Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).
>> 
>> The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
>> FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
>> for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
>> way or the other?
>> 
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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Otis C. Wright, Jr.]

I have also had good results with ScanCafe.   They provided timely, 
quality service exactly as I requested on my orders.  Over time, I've 
had them process my complete holdings of slides and negatives plus a 
some prints I didn't 'have time to scan myself.


Otis Wright

On 11/11/2023 11:43, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I would recommend using a service instead of buying a scanner. If your sister 
is like most people, the scanning is a one time task .. to do good scanning 
take time and practice … a *lot* of practice and a *lot* of time … and then, 
once done, the scanner is of limited value and you have to put more effort into 
selling it. Cheap scanners do a relatively poor job, the scanning services all 
use the best scanners. Etc.

The scanning services are run by people who are pretty expert at the task and 
they do it efficiently and well, at a modest cost per photo. Scanning the 
family archive is a one-time task for most people … get the whole lot done, pay 
whatever it costs, and you're done: enjoy the photos.

I've had good luck with ScanCafe.com … I've arranged and managed the scanning 
process with them for several of my old clients (when I was still working). 
Their prices are reasonable, and they give you some options in the kind of 
quality and costs, depending on your need/use of the photos.

Good luck.

Godfrey


On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:

Long time lurker.

My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).

The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
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Re: OT: Print Scanner

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I would recommend using a service instead of buying a scanner. If your sister 
is like most people, the scanning is a one time task .. to do good scanning 
take time and practice … a *lot* of practice and a *lot* of time … and then, 
once done, the scanner is of limited value and you have to put more effort into 
selling it. Cheap scanners do a relatively poor job, the scanning services all 
use the best scanners. Etc. 

The scanning services are run by people who are pretty expert at the task and 
they do it efficiently and well, at a modest cost per photo. Scanning the 
family archive is a one-time task for most people … get the whole lot done, pay 
whatever it costs, and you're done: enjoy the photos. 

I've had good luck with ScanCafe.com … I've arranged and managed the scanning 
process with them for several of my old clients (when I was still working). 
Their prices are reasonable, and they give you some options in the kind of 
quality and costs, depending on your need/use of the photos. 

Good luck. 

Godfrey

> On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:41 PM, Ed Keeney  wrote:
> 
> Long time lurker.
> 
> My sister has been asking me about how to get her old printed photos
> scanned to digital files.  My guess is her family albums of 4x6's.
> Should she use a service or buy a bulk scanner (vs flatbed).
> 
> The scanners run $200-$600 depending on quality (Epson FastFoto
> FF-680W being the high end, Plustek the low end).  Hard to spend $600
> for what essentially is tool for only a limited amount of time.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Preferences one
> way or the other?
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Re: OT: System Renewal

[John Sessoms]

Cool! Congratulations.

On 10/30/2023 6:36 PM, Comcast wrote:

My 8 year old iMac 27 Retina K5 gave up the ghost. It had been getting flakey 
for awhile. When writing it would sometimes freeze and restart. I sometimes had 
to grabs snapshot of the screen if I didn’t have a recent save, and then type 
the text back in after a restart. Finally, it refused to start. The big loss 
was its 5k monitor which can’t be used separately.

I had wanted to upgrade to a silicon Mac that could run the latest photoshop AI 
tools, so it’s timely, I bought a Mac Mini M2 Pro with much more processing 
power than my old iMac. For a monitor I bought a 32-inch LG 4K IPS screen, I’ll 
keep my old 27-inch IPS Dell as a second screen.all considered a fairly 
economical solution.

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Re: OT: System Renewal

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 30.10.23 um 23:36 schrieb Comcast:

I bought a Mac Mini M2 Pro with much more processing power than my old iMac.


I've bought a Mac Studio M1 last year and I'm a very happy camper.

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Re: OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

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WOW

Dave

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 3:54 PM Bill  wrote:

> OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.
>
> One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I
> am finding valuable for macro work.
>
> This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201
> stacked images, which I admit is just silly.
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> https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG
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> Enjoy
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Re: OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

[Bill]

Hi Henk, it was shot outside but in a very sheltered area. According to 
the time stamps on the files, it took just over 3 minutes to photograph 
the stack, so about one frame per second on average.
Automatic focus stack has very quickly become a must have feature for me 
for a new camera. When the K1 replacement comes along (hopefully before 
I've shuffled off) I'm really hoping they include it as a feature.

The Fuji lenses are superb, but the 80/2.8 stands out as exceptional.

thanks for looking and your kind comments are appreciated.

bill

On 10/25/2023 12:07 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Amazingly sharp and a nice composition.
I guess this is shot indoors or sheltered.
The trouble I have with focus stacking of wild flowers is that I get
ghosting effects from movement in the wind.

Henk

Op di 24 okt 2023 om 21:54 schreef Bill :


OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.

One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I
am finding valuable for macro work.

This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201
stacked images, which I admit is just silly.

https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG

Enjoy

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Re: OT: Focus stacked flower with no Rick at all.

[Henk Terhell]

Amazingly sharp and a nice composition.
I guess this is shot indoors or sheltered.
The trouble I have with focus stacking of wild flowers is that I get
ghosting effects from movement in the wind.

Henk

Op di 24 okt 2023 om 21:54 schreef Bill :

> OT as no Pentax equipment was used for this image.
>
> One of the features built into the X-T5 is focus stacking, a tool that I
> am finding valuable for macro work.
>
> This was shot with the Fuji 80/2.8 macro at f4. It is comprised of 201
> stacked images, which I admit is just silly.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2pbmsXG
>
> Enjoy
>
> bill
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Re: OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

[Rick Womer]

I’m right here, and wasn’t ever behind that rock, or in that creek.

Rick

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 05:00  wrote:

> It's Rick behind the rock?
>
> On October 8, 2023 7:13:13 PM PDT, Bill 
> wrote:
> >OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.
> >
> >Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.
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> >https://flic.kr/p/2p83n33
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> >enjoy
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Re: OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

[Steve Cottrell]

Shasta from 35,000 feet!

Nice image.

Cot

> On 9 Oct 2023, at 03:13, Bill  wrote:
> 
> OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.
> 
> Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2p83n33 

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Re: OT PESO: Rick in a creek.

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It's Rick behind the rock?

On October 8, 2023 7:13:13 PM PDT, Bill  wrote:
>OT as it was shot with non Pentax gear.
>
>Fuji X-T5, 50-140 & 1.4 converter.
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Re: OT PESO Path to somewhere

[John Sessoms]

But it's a nice looking path.

On 9/29/2023 9:08 PM, Bill wrote:

OT because it's taken with Fuji equipment.

https://flic.kr/p/2p47wyP

Taken at the Kohan Reflection Garden, New Denver BC.

New Denver is a town in BC that had a Japanese/ Canadian internment camp 
built beside it during  WWII.
The garden was established in 1989 to honour those Canadian citizens 
whose freedoms were taken from them at that time.


Fuji X-T5, 80/2.8 macro, ISO 125, f/11, 1/20th sec.

Enjoy

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Re: OT GESO

[Steve Cottrell]

Nice work as usual Brooksy.

Cot

> On 23 Sep 2023, at 15:43, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Our club recently did two walks in Uxbridge ontario sept 5 and sept 19 so i
> combined them into one gallery of 55 photos
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge4/album/index.html 
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Re: OT GESO

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Rick and Alan. Rick hand held with A around 6.3 the Nikon 28-300 is
quite sharp

Dave

On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 2:42 AM Alan C  wrote:

> Great stuff as usual, Dave. Late summer blossoms & seeds with signs
> impending Autumn or the Fall as you call it over there. We are off to
> the Crystal Springs mountain resort next week so hopefully I can capture
> some of the wild spring flowers (veldblommetjies) & probably a bit of game.
>
> Alan C
>
> On 23-Sep-23 11:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> > Dave, these are excellent.  Your flower and foliage shots are extremely
> sharp, and the colors are great.
> >
> > Were you using a tripod? What aperture range were you using?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >> On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David J Brooks 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Our club recently did two walks in Uxbridge ontario sept 5 and sept 19
> so i
> >> combined them into one gallery of 55 photos
> >>
> >> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge4/album/index.html
> >>
> >> D7200 28-300 some LR 6.1 adjustments
> >>
> >> dAVE
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Re: OT GESO

[Alan C]

Great stuff as usual, Dave. Late summer blossoms & seeds with signs 
impending Autumn or the Fall as you call it over there. We are off to 
the Crystal Springs mountain resort next week so hopefully I can capture 
some of the wild spring flowers (veldblommetjies) & probably a bit of game.


Alan C

On 23-Sep-23 11:27 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Dave, these are excellent.  Your flower and foliage shots are extremely sharp, 
and the colors are great.

Were you using a tripod? What aperture range were you using?

Rick


On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:

Our club recently did two walks in Uxbridge ontario sept 5 and sept 19 so i
combined them into one gallery of 55 photos

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge4/album/index.html

D7200 28-300 some LR 6.1 adjustments

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Re: OT GESO

[Rick Womer]

Dave, these are excellent.  Your flower and foliage shots are extremely sharp, 
and the colors are great.

Were you using a tripod? What aperture range were you using?

Rick

> On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:43 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Our club recently did two walks in Uxbridge ontario sept 5 and sept 19 so i
> combined them into one gallery of 55 photos
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge4/album/index.html
> 
> D7200 28-300 some LR 6.1 adjustments
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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[Alan Cole]

Thanks Ann.
The community is assisting wherever needed but there are a lot of political
undertones too. The Muni is claiming they did all sorts of things
whereas in fact they did very little. None of the Fire Engines were working
so the Mine fire teams had to be called in. The delay was IMO the main
cause of the extensive losses. Also, the water reservoir was depleted so
water pressure & flow from the hydrants was very low. Sadly, this is how
South Africa is land wide today.
Alan C



On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 3:16 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> Alan - glad to hear, at least ,your home was not a victim.. I wager
> there is not a US or Canadian list member who has not recently been
> subject to
> dangerously high pollution due to smoke from fires .. some of us much
> more than others ..and have a good sense of what you personally are
> experiencing.
> don't take deep breaths to keep calm and carry on
>
> ann
>
>
> On 9/17/2023 1:28 AM, Alan C wrote:
> > Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds
> > from the west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly
> > got of control, jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary &
> > setting several thatched roofed houses on fire including the iconic
> > Elegant Guest House. All available local firefighting services from
> > the town fire brigade & mines were on the scene &  a firefighting
> > helicopter was brought in from Tzaneen but It still took 10 hours to
> > bring the fire under control. 12 houses were totally destroyed &
> > others damaged but fortunately there was no loss of life. By far the
> > worst disaster in Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much
> > cooler today but the air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would
> > be ghoulish to take photos but you can find some on the internet if
> > you look.
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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[Alan C]

Thanks all. The community is rallying round. Perhaps "ghoulish" was a 
bit strong. There are plenty of images "for posterity" on the web.


Alan C

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Yesterday was a very hot day (40?C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds from
the west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly got of
control, jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & setting
several thatched roofed houses on fire including the iconic Elegant
Guest House. All available local firefighting services from the town
fire brigade & mines were on the scene &? a firefighting helicopter was
brought in from Tzaneen but It still took 10 hours to bring the fire
under control. 12 houses were totally destroyed & others damaged but
fortunately there was no loss of life. By far the worst disaster in
Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much cooler today but the
air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be ghoulish to take
photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.


I'm glad you're okay Alan, it sounds like they had quite a fight on their
hands getting it under control.

We've been fortunate to only deal with the smoke blowing in from distant
wildfires living in Washington and now Detroit.  I hope this one was an
anomaly for Phalaborwa.

Bruce N.

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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[John Sessoms]

I'm glad you're ok and that no one died from the fire.

On 9/17/2023 1:28 AM, Alan C wrote:
Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds from 
the west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly got of 
control, jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & setting 
several thatched roofed houses on fire including the iconic Elegant 
Guest House. All available local firefighting services from the town 
fire brigade & mines were on the scene &  a firefighting helicopter was 
brought in from Tzaneen but It still took 10 hours to bring the fire 
under control. 12 houses were totally destroyed & others damaged but 
fortunately there was no loss of life. By far the worst disaster in 
Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much cooler today but the 
air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be ghoulish to take 
photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.


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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[Bob W PDML]

It’s been a bad few years for a lot of people, I’m sorry to hear it’s been your 
turn. I hope you’re not too badly affected personally by it.

I agree with Larry’s comment about ghoulishness.

Bon courage.

> On 17 Sep 2023, at 07:31, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds from the 
> west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly got of control, 
> jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & setting several thatched 
> roofed houses on fire including the iconic Elegant Guest House. All available 
> local firefighting services from the town fire brigade & mines were on the 
> scene &  a firefighting helicopter was brought in from Tzaneen but It still 
> took 10 hours to bring the fire under control. 12 houses were totally 
> destroyed & others damaged but fortunately there was no loss of life. By far 
> the worst disaster in Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much 
> cooler today but the air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be 
> ghoulish to take photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.
> 
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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[ann sanfedele]

Larry makes a good point..  and he is one who I was thinking of 
particularly  when I made my comments.


ann

On 9/17/2023 1:54 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



By far the worst disaster in Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much 
cooler today but the air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be 
ghoulish to take photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.

Speaking as someone whose home town was ravaged by fire just over three years 
ago, there's a difference between ghoulish and documenting for posterity, and 
it is important to keep that in mind.


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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[ann sanfedele]

Alan - glad to hear, at least ,your home was not a victim.. I wager 
there is not a US or Canadian list member who has not recently been 
subject to
dangerously high pollution due to smoke from fires .. some of us much 
more than others ..and have a good sense of what you personally are 
experiencing.

don't take deep breaths to keep calm and carry on

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Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds 
from the west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly 
got of control, jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & 
setting several thatched roofed houses on fire including the iconic 
Elegant Guest House. All available local firefighting services from 
the town fire brigade & mines were on the scene &  a firefighting 
helicopter was brought in from Tzaneen but It still took 10 hours to 
bring the fire under control. 12 houses were totally destroyed & 
others damaged but fortunately there was no loss of life. By far the 
worst disaster in Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much 
cooler today but the air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would 
be ghoulish to take photos but you can find some on the internet if 
you look.


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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

[Henk Terhell]

That must have been a frightening experience.
 And it is not yet summer in your area. I guess you get more rain in summer?

Henk

Op zo 17 sep 2023 om 07:40 schreef Alan C :

> Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds from
> the west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly got of
> control, jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & setting
> several thatched roofed houses on fire including the iconic Elegant
> Guest House. All available local firefighting services from the town
> fire brigade & mines were on the scene &  a firefighting helicopter was
> brought in from Tzaneen but It still took 10 hours to bring the fire
> under control. 12 houses were totally destroyed & others damaged but
> fortunately there was no loss of life. By far the worst disaster in
> Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. Much cooler today but the
> air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be ghoulish to take
> photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.
>
> Alan C
>
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Re: OT: Fire in Phalaborwa

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> On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:28 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday was a very hot day (40°C) in Phalaborwa with strong winds from the 
> west. A veld fire broke out to the West of the town & rapidly got of control, 
> jumping Spekboom Street on the western boundary & setting several thatched 
> roofed houses on fire including the iconic Elegant Guest House. All available 
> local firefighting services from the town fire brigade & mines were on the 
> scene &  a firefighting helicopter was brought in from Tzaneen but It still 
> took 10 hours to bring the fire under control. 12 houses were totally 
> destroyed & others damaged but fortunately there was no loss of life.

I'm glad that it wasn't much worse, and I expect that had your house been one 
of the 12 you would have mentioned, so I'm glad you are OK.

> By far the worst disaster in Phalaborwa in the 47 years I have been here. 
> Much cooler today but the air is still filled with smoke. I felt it would be 
> ghoulish to take photos but you can find some on the internet if you look.

Speaking as someone whose home town was ravaged by fire just over three years 
ago, there's a difference between ghoulish and documenting for posterity, and 
it is important to keep that in mind.  


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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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> On 29 Aug 2023, at 17:27, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> 
>> Just found this series of photos by one Josh Edgoose in today's online
>> edition of The Guardian and thought Bob W and a few others might like them:
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/aug/29/like-an-alien-world-the-banks-of-the-river-thames-and-beyond-in-pictures
> 
> At first glance, I thought the bloke in the kayak (second photo) was
> Bob W!
> 

As a master of fact, I did too. Was struggling to remember when I ever kayaked 
there. Or anywhere else, for that matter!
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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Ralf R Radermacher wrote:

>Just found this series of photos by one Josh Edgoose in today's online
>edition of The Guardian and thought Bob W and a few others might like them:
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/aug/29/like-an-alien-world-the-banks-of-the-river-thames-and-beyond-in-pictures

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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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> On 29 Aug 2023, at 14:52, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 29.08.23 um 13:16 schrieb Bob W PDML:
> 
>> There’s a lot of money around there.
> 
> So, let everybody have enough money and the world will be a nicer place.
> 
> Ralf
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> --
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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Am 29.08.23 um 13:16 schrieb Bob W PDML:


There’s a lot of money around there.


So, let everybody have enough money and the world will be a nicer place.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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> On 29 Aug 2023, at 12:11, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 29.08.23 um 13:01 schrieb Bob W PDML:
> 
>> The people tend to be wealthy, artistically inclined, secure and confident 
>> enough not to be wary of the camera but to be aware of photography and often 
>> to play up to it.
> 
> Sounds like a street photographers paradise while the rest of the world
> becomes more hellish every day.

There’s a lot of money around there.
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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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Am 29.08.23 um 13:01 schrieb Bob W PDML:


The people tend to be wealthy, artistically inclined, secure and confident 
enough not to be wary of the camera but to be aware of photography and often to 
play up to it.


Sounds like a street photographers paradise while the rest of the world
becomes more hellish every day.

Ralf

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Re: OT: Guardian - Photos from South-East London

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Thanks - superb photos, he has a great eye. I know some of those areas well and 
they attract a certain kind of mild eccentricity which is very photogenic.

The people tend to be wealthy, artistically inclined, secure and confident 
enough not to be wary of the camera but to be aware of photography and often to 
play up to it.

> On 29 Aug 2023, at 11:15, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Just found this series of photos by one Josh Edgoose in today's online
> edition of The Guardian and thought Bob W and a few others might like them:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2023/aug/29/like-an-alien-world-the-banks-of-the-river-thames-and-beyond-in-pictures
> 
> Ralf
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Re: OT Geso: coyote trail

[David J Brooks]

Looks like hairy Velch

Dave

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 4:49 PM David J Brooks  wrote:

> Ann, no I did not grab a cell shot to get the id I can ask
>
> Dave
>
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:20 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:
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>> nice set all around but I particulalry like the one you chose for your
>> banner.. I guess you liked that one a lot too :-)
>>
>> do you know what the name of the purple blossoms crawling up a stem is?
>>
>> ann
>>
>> On 6/23/2023 9:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
>> > The region has shortened up this trail walk but still a nice trail and
>> > photo ops
>> >
>> > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-coyote1/album/index.html
>> >
>> > Nikon D7200 Nikor 28-300 LR ver 6.1 standalone
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>> > Dave
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Re: OT Geso: coyote trail

[David J Brooks]

Ann, no I did not grab a cell shot to get the id I can ask

Dave

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:20 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:

> nice set all around but I particulalry like the one you chose for your
> banner.. I guess you liked that one a lot too :-)
>
> do you know what the name of the purple blossoms crawling up a stem is?
>
> ann
>
> On 6/23/2023 9:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:
> > The region has shortened up this trail walk but still a nice trail and
> > photo ops
> >
> > http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-coyote1/album/index.html
> >
> > Nikon D7200 Nikor 28-300 LR ver 6.1 standalone
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> > Dave
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Re: OT Geso: coyote trail

[ann sanfedele]

nice set all around but I particulalry like the one you chose for your 
banner.. I guess you liked that one a lot too :-)


do you know what the name of the purple blossoms crawling up a stem is?

ann

On 6/23/2023 9:03 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

The region has shortened up this trail walk but still a nice trail and
photo ops

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-coyote1/album/index.html

Nikon D7200 Nikor 28-300 LR ver 6.1 standalone

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Re: OT Geso: coyote trail

[Paul Sorenson]

Nice...I'm a sucker for flower pix - especially like your B/W renderings.

-p


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The region has shortened up this trail walk but still a nice trail and
photo ops

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-coyote1/album/index.html

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Re: OT GESO: Lynde shores Lake Ontario

[Alan C]

Well done. I look forward to the video of you singing!

Alan C

On 07-Jun-23 04:04 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-lynde1/album/index.html

Short walk along a marsh area at Lake Ontario east of Torontop. Not much
wildlife Tuesday and only 1 baby killdeer for youg'uns to be found. Very
smokey air due to all the wildfires, it was affecting my voice, to the
point I can now sing the blues.:-)

Dave

D7200, Nikor 28-300 some LR adjustments i like how the drift wood looks in
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Re: OT fun with bubbles

[Alan C]

Indeed and you did a good job capturing it, Dave. Takes me back!

Alan C

On 03-Jun-23 04:08 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

School PA day Friday so i had the kids all day

https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52947844463/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52947844468/

iPhone 12 mini

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Re: OT: technology and the photography industry

[Henk Terhell]

Interesting.
On this topic, one of my favourite channels on YouTube is @ColdFusion that
shows a lot of history about technology disruptions besides current
developments.

Henk

Op vr 2 jun 2023 om 15:15 schreef mike wilson :

>
>  This guy has a number of presentations depicting how digital technology
> has changed many aspects of industry.  Quite a few of them are about
> photography and, particularly, Kodak.  They can be viewed online or
> downloaded.
>
>
>
>  https://www.slideshare.net/Christiansandstrom/presentations
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Re: OT geso uxbridge trails walk

[Rick Womer]

Nice collection, Dave!  The chickadee (#9) and the flower shots (especially the 
trillium in #11) are my favorites.

Rick

 
> On May 15, 2023, at 4:33 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
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> From a trail walk last week
> 
> http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2023-uxbridge2/album/index.html
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Re: OT geso uxbridge trails walk

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Bruce. We have lots of forests trails around here

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 3:19 PM Bruce Walker  wrote:

> I quite enjoyed that gallery, Dave. I love those trilliums you found!
>
> Makes me want to get out in the woods again.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 4:33 PM David J Brooks 
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> > From a trail walk last week
> >
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Re: OT geso uxbridge trails walk

[Bruce Walker]

I quite enjoyed that gallery, Dave. I love those trilliums you found!

Makes me want to get out in the woods again.

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> From a trail walk last week
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Re: OT Time machine

[David J Brooks]

does not seem to be having a problem i just thought id clear up some space
on the External TM disk but trash does not want to delete those files for
some reason, that was my main concern

Dave

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 10:18 PM John Sessoms  wrote:

> Hard drives are relatively cheap. IF Time Machine is having a problem,
> get a new drive and start afresh. Save the old drive.
>
>
>
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Re: OT Time machine

[John Sessoms]

Hard drives are relatively cheap. IF Time Machine is having a problem, 
get a new drive and start afresh. Save the old drive.


On 5/13/2023 9:52 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:40 AM David J Brooks  wrote:


Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive
I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash.


I kinda winced when I read that, Dave. ;-)  You really need to leave
Time Machine alone to manage its own files. Many snapshots are
dependent on earlier data being there to be coherent. Normally it
clears space automatically as it needs room for new backup snapshots.

Sometimes the best thing to do with a malfunctioning Time Machine is
format the drive and restart TM using it. Basically, just reset and
start again. Of course you lose all the backups until now so you are
taking a risk, but just take care for the first few days until you
have a full and complete backup and a snapshot or two on the disk and
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Re: OT Time machine

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Dave, 

I couldn't say whether you've mucked things up without the machine in front of 
me to do some analysis, but perhaps these links on Time Machine backup 
management might help:

https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/if-the-time-machine-backup-disk-is-full-mh15137/mac
(Note that El Capitan is too old to be included in the specific instructions 
that this page lists for, but most of the instructions for all the High Sierra 
to current Ventura versions of macOS are pretty much the same; one can make the 
assumption that TM on El Capitan isn't much different.)

https://www.macworld.com/article/673089/what-to-do-when-time-machine-backup-is-full.html

http://www.creativetechsupport.com/help/mac/transfer/timemachine/full.html

In general, it is not a good idea to manipulate the internals of a Time Machine 
backup manually (or any backup system, for that matter). When you do, you 
should do it in the very specific ways recommended in the links above. If a 
backup volume is getting too full, the best thing to do is to disconnect the 
old volume and archive it, add a new volume, and assign that to Time Machine. 

For example, I have a 1T internal drive and a 1T Time Machine volume connected 
to my system. I set up Time Machine such that it excludes my photography files 
(LR catalog folder and original files - those are managed on and backed up to a 
completely different set of external volumes which I consider to be much more 
efficient and robust than the automated TM backup system). When the 1T Time 
Machine volume is approaching 95% full, before TM starts deleting the oldest 
files, I disconnect it from the system and mark it with the date I removed it 
from the system. I then connect another 1T volume that I've reformatted and 
assign it to be the Time Machine volume, generate an entirely new backup on it. 
When that one gets to the 95% full mark, I do the same … the 1T volume I swap 
in is the original TM backup volume that I've reformatted and emptied. 

It takes about five to six years of use for a TM backup to become full to that 
point … I've only had to do this about three times … And any truly important 
data that I want to keep forever (like financial data) I archive into a 
completely independent archive system along with my photography files. 

G


> On May 12, 2023, at 5:39 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive
> I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash. I know you have to delete the
> trash for the new storage info to show up in the toolbar but it seems to
> take forever to do anything when I ask to delete permanently, have i made a
> big mistake here or is there a way to speed up the delete process? Mid 2010
> con El Capitán,
> 
> it tries to erase but at the end gets this error:"The operation can’t be
> completed because an unexpected error occurred (error code -8072)". Can't
> find anything specific online? Any ideas?
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Re: OT Time machine

[Bruce Walker]

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:40 AM David J Brooks  wrote:
>
> Have I screwed myself here? To free up some space in my time machine drive
> I moved 47 backup files from 2014 to trash.

I kinda winced when I read that, Dave. ;-)  You really need to leave
Time Machine alone to manage its own files. Many snapshots are
dependent on earlier data being there to be coherent. Normally it
clears space automatically as it needs room for new backup snapshots.

Sometimes the best thing to do with a malfunctioning Time Machine is
format the drive and restart TM using it. Basically, just reset and
start again. Of course you lose all the backups until now so you are
taking a risk, but just take care for the first few days until you
have a full and complete backup and a snapshot or two on the disk and
you should be good to go.

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Re: OT: Interesting collectors item

[Ralf R Radermacher]

Am 06.05.23 um 03:49 schrieb David Mann:

> My local camera shop has had a Red Flag camera kit come in for sale.
Going by the number of zeroes in the price they must be quite collectible.
>
>
https://www.photo.co.nz/2nd-hand/second-hand-products/collectables/red-flag-camera-kit-s-h-3p3wem/

The used camera market is full of surprises. Someone has recently opened
a shop for second-hand analog cameras, here in town. One of his offers:

https://cameradealer.de/products/olympus-mju-ii-inkl-o

Had a look on ebay and they're going for around 250 to 300 euros. Got
one in my camera ancestors' shrine. Bought it new, years ago, for a bit
over 100 euros.

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Re: OT: Interesting collectors item

[Sandy Harris]

David Mann  wrote:
>
> My local camera shop has had a Red Flag camera kit come in for sale. Going by 
> the number of zeroes in the price they must be quite collectible.
>
> https://www.photo.co.nz/2nd-hand/second-hand-products/collectables/red-flag-camera-kit-s-h-3p3wem/

Are collectors actually that crazy?

Checking B, I get a price of just under $34,000-odd US for two M11
bodies, colour & monochrome, with current 35/1.4, 50/1.4 & 90/2.0
lenses, all new & warrantied. Buy that, some nice wider lens & a used
m3. Still less than half what is being asked for a used Chinese m3
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Re: OT: Life Changes

[Stan Halpin]

I asked my nomadic friend for suggestions. Her first response was that you 
could check escapees.com which they use for Mail Drop, etc etc. She provided 
several other links that might be useful and I could forward if you want to 
pursue this…
Stan

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> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:42 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
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> Is that like living in an RV or converted School Bus?
> 
> I've thought about it a lot and talked to some people who do it, but there 
> are a couple of drawbacks I haven't figured how to overcome ...
> 
> How to arrange my doctor's appointments with the VA (& get my prescriptions) 
> and where I'd register to vote being the biggest.
> 
> And a bunch of other things I rely on are linked to having a fixed abode 
> (like internet access & this email address).
> 
>> On 4/25/2023 10:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> That sound drastic!  have you considered a "Nomad land " existence?
>>> On 4/25/2023 9:48 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>> I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be certain 
>>> until I actually see the cash in my bank account.
>>> 
>>> Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the bank 
>>> account.
>>> 
>>> But I have to be out of here on May 10.
>>> 
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Re: OT: Life Changes

[Stan Halpin]

I have an acquaintance (I met in a photo workshop), she and her husband sold 
every, bought an RV, roamed, and then two years later bought a double-wide in 
FL for winter, they still roam in summer, mostly back in Mich. I think they 
kept Mich. residency. I can ask…

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> On Apr 26, 2023, at 10:42 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
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> Is that like living in an RV or converted School Bus?
> 
> I've thought about it a lot and talked to some people who do it, but there 
> are a couple of drawbacks I haven't figured how to overcome ...
> 
> How to arrange my doctor's appointments with the VA (& get my prescriptions) 
> and where I'd register to vote being the biggest.
> 
> And a bunch of other things I rely on are linked to having a fixed abode 
> (like internet access & this email address).
> 
>> On 4/25/2023 10:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
>> That sound drastic!  have you considered a "Nomad land " existence?
>>> On 4/25/2023 9:48 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>> I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be certain 
>>> until I actually see the cash in my bank account.
>>> 
>>> Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the bank 
>>> account.
>>> 
>>> But I have to be out of here on May 10.
>>> 
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Re: OT: Life Changes

[ann sanfedele]

Hmm - Perhaps a friend in yur current neighborhood would take you on as 
a roomate for the sake of the address..
You could keep your current email and you can access the web anywhere in 
the country with a laptop .


Yes that is what I meant - re living in RV or van   Did you see NOMAD 
LAND?  It really made the life appealing - but she was a bit

younger than you.

On 4/26/2023 10:42 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

Is that like living in an RV or converted School Bus?

I've thought about it a lot and talked to some people who do it, but 
there are a couple of drawbacks I haven't figured how to overcome ...


How to arrange my doctor's appointments with the VA (& get my 
prescriptions) and where I'd register to vote being the biggest.


And a bunch of other things I rely on are linked to having a fixed 
abode (like internet access & this email address).


On 4/25/2023 10:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

That sound drastic!  have you considered a "Nomad land " existence?

On 4/25/2023 9:48 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be 
certain until I actually see the cash in my bank account.


Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the 
bank account.


But I have to be out of here on May 10.







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Re: OT: Life Changes

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> On 25 Apr 2023, at 14:49, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be certain 
> until I actually see the cash in my bank account.
> 
> Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the bank account.
> 
> But I have to be out of here on May 10.
> 

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Re: OT: Life Changes

[John Sessoms]

Is that like living in an RV or converted School Bus?

I've thought about it a lot and talked to some people who do it, but 
there are a couple of drawbacks I haven't figured how to overcome ...


How to arrange my doctor's appointments with the VA (& get my 
prescriptions) and where I'd register to vote being the biggest.


And a bunch of other things I rely on are linked to having a fixed abode 
(like internet access & this email address).


On 4/25/2023 10:01 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

That sound drastic!  have you considered a "Nomad land " existence?

On 4/25/2023 9:48 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be 
certain until I actually see the cash in my bank account.


Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the bank 
account.


But I have to be out of here on May 10.





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Re: OT: Life Changes

[ann sanfedele]

That sound drastic!  have you considered a "Nomad land " existence?

On 4/25/2023 9:48 AM, John Sessoms wrote:
I think I've sold my house. I've got a contract, but I won't be 
certain until I actually see the cash in my bank account.


Don't know where I'm going. That's also awaiting the cash in the bank 
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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

[John Sessoms]

I don't think they're related, but the Wilson brothers apparently made 
their "acting debut" in Wes Anderson's first film.


I don't know much about him,. I have one of his movies, Moonlight 
Kingdom, on DVD.



On 4/5/2023 1:25 AM, mike wilson wrote:

Any relation to the Owen/Luke Wilson clan?  Seems very similar, facially.


On 03/04/2023 19:01 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

  
One of my college roommate's sons. Wen Wilson, is a close friend of Wes

Anderson.  He's the dude with the bandaged head brushing his teeth at 0:40
of this video.

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On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:51 PM John Sessoms  wrote:


Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.

I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how
to take photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker).
But I think it would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?

Anyway ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0

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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

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Any relation to the Owen/Luke Wilson clan?  Seems very similar, facially.

> On 03/04/2023 19:01 Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
>  
> One of my college roommate's sons. Wen Wilson, is a close friend of Wes
> Anderson.  He's the dude with the bandaged head brushing his teeth at 0:40
> of this video.
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> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 12:51 PM John Sessoms  wrote:
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> > Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.
> >
> > I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how
> > to take photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker).
> > But I think it would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?
> >
> > Anyway ...
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0
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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

[John Sessoms]

... and why choose Wes Anderson rather than ...

No reason other than that was what I was looking at when the idea occurred.

But it does seem to be rather a unique style that would be easy to see 
if you'd managed to catch it.


On 4/3/2023 1:58 PM, Bob W PDML wrote:

A PUG theme of Cinema would be quite interesting as it’s fairly wide-ranging 
and open to quite a lot of interpretation.

Making an homage to a single individual’s style seems a bit narrow to me, and 
why choose Wes Anderson rather than Kurosawa or Godard or Hitchcock or Varda or 
any other auteur film maker?

Good starting point though.


On 3 Apr 2023, at 17:51, John Sessoms  wrote:

Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.

I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how to take 
photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker). But I think it 
would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?

Anyway ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0

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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

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> On Apr 3, 2023, at 10:58 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
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> A PUG theme of Cinema would be quite interesting as it’s fairly wide-ranging 
> and open to quite a lot of interpretation. 
> 
> Making an homage to a single individual’s style seems a bit narrow to me, and 
> why choose Wes Anderson rather than Kurosawa or Godard or Hitchcock or Varda 
> or any other auteur film maker? 
> 
> Good starting point though.

I think it would be more fun to have the theme be “come as you aren’t”, take a 
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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

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One of my college roommate's sons. Wen Wilson, is a close friend of Wes
Anderson.  He's the dude with the bandaged head brushing his teeth at 0:40
of this video.

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> Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.
>
> I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how
> to take photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker).
> But I think it would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?
>
> Anyway ...
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0
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Re: OT: "Accidentally" Wes Anderson

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A PUG theme of Cinema would be quite interesting as it’s fairly wide-ranging 
and open to quite a lot of interpretation. 

Making an homage to a single individual’s style seems a bit narrow to me, and 
why choose Wes Anderson rather than Kurosawa or Godard or Hitchcock or Varda or 
any other auteur film maker? 

Good starting point though.

> On 3 Apr 2023, at 17:51, John Sessoms  wrote:
> 
> Maybe semi-OT, because it's not camera specific; it's a STYLE.
> 
> I was just wandering around YouTube and ran across a short video on how to 
> take photographs in the style of Wes Anderson (American Movie Maker). But I 
> think it would be fun ... maybe as a PUG category next year?
> 
> Anyway ...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMPMftpkW0
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Re: OT Larry & Godfrey - flooding

[lrc]

The good news is that the tree did not fall on my house. The better news is 
that my neighbor had just  gotten out of the chair the tree landed on.

This is actually Pentax related since John had a Pentax

On March 14, 2023 2:01:21 PM PDT, John Sessoms  wrote:
>Hope everything STAYS good for y'all
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0-WXUFY2k
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>On 3/13/2023 10:42 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> We're seeing a lot of reporting of the CA flooding on the news.  How is it 
>> affecting the two of you?
>> 
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Re: OT Larry & Godfrey - flooding

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Hope everything STAYS good for y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH0-WXUFY2k

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We're seeing a lot of reporting of the CA flooding on the news.  How is 
it affecting the two of you?


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Re: OT Larry & Godfrey - flooding

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Thanks for asking! There's been flooding in some areas of Santa Clara County 
but nothing in my immediate vicinity. It's actually forecasted to be a dry day 
here, finally, at least until this evening. 

G

> On Mar 13, 2023, at 7:43 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
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Re: OT Larry & Godfrey - flooding

[Larry Colen]

I'm fine at the moment.  At the peak the river in my back yard only rose about 
"halfway to scary", the highest I saw was 12 feet.  Earlier this year it was up 
to about 19 or 20. The heaviest rain we've seen in the past week was about five 
inches overnight.  

I do have one friend I haven't heard from who lives on the edge of the 
evacuation zone down in Pajaro.

I've got a collection of snaps on my phone starting 12/31 when my neighbor lost 
their back deck, it turns out the river was also about 12' above normal then

https://photos.app.goo.gl/3ukBdSM3T17gEcXFA

The timing is kind of a pain in the ass because the company I work for is 
moving to Riverside (about 400 miles south) and we do our first load tomorrow, 
it's supposed to rain heavily today, and there was a whole bunch of work around 
the house I really wanted to take care of.

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> affecting the two of you?
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Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Godfrey, thats pretty much what i was looking for. I may just go
with a good ipad, lot cheaper than macbooks, as a secondary device and
emergency computer should the desktop ever fail, until i can replace said
desktop,

I have lots of backup drives.:-)

I am quite comfortable with LR and have used it since version 1. Looks like
a free version is available for ipads.

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[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> - what's the best way to go about getting mail for:
> 
> dave @ caughtinmotion dot com
> and
> brooksdj @ ca dot inter dot net.
> ??
> would i set up MAIL to do it or just go through a browser like i'm doing.

Either way. 

It's generally more convenient for me to set up Mail for each of my accounts, 
no matter what service they're hosted with, on my iPad/iPhone and on my Mac as 
well; either option is easily available. 

> - will the ipad support firefox

There is a Firefox browser available on iPadOS, but I have never used it. I'm 
happy enough with Safari as an internet browser.

> - i have Gmail on my iphone so ill assume its supported on an iPaD, with a
> Gmail app

Again, you can use a Gmail specific app, or you can create a Gmail account in 
Mail. Your choice.

> -what about making folders like on a Mac desktop, i have my photos stored
> im=n specific year, like 2023, then subfolders like 3-3-23-Kings trail
> walk, is this possible on an ipad,, google has me confused about this.

On macOS, the functionality of manipulating directory structure on local or 
external storage is handled by the Finder. On iOS and iPadOS, the Files app 
allows users to do the same, in a somewhat more specific (and manual) manner; 
file system manipulation functionality is built into apps on these operating 
systems to manage their private, secure directory storage in a more automated 
manner.

The Files app is included with any current installation of iOS and iPadOS, and 
it can be obtained free of charge from the App Store with any iPhone/iPad as 
well. A screenshot of the Files app listing on the App Store: 
https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/o3ZQXQ905s

Files can be used to create a directory structure per whatever your needs might 
be, either locally on an iPad or iPhone, or on external or iCloud storage. 
(Yes, you can connect an external drive to iPad/iPhone presuming you have the 
correct cable and/or adapters for your devices.) Since I do my photo 
organizational work on my macOS system, and use the iPhone/iPad for photo work 
in the field on a rather more casual basis, I have not set up a photo directory 
structure that mimics my macOS system directory structure but it's certainly 
possible (and easy) to do so. Here's what Files shows of my iPad Pro 11" 
directory structure at present: https://www.flickr.com/gp/gdgphoto/0310mtvb53

As you can see, the default folder organization is being defined by the apps I 
have installed and use. I can easily define another directory tree for photos, 
either locally or on iCloud or external drives. 

Inside an app like Photos, you organize photos into Albums to achieve the same 
thing from a use perspective. I generally use SnapSeed for quick edits … it's 
fast and easy. For more extensive work Photos used in conjunction with Raw 
POWER is an excellent image editor and so is Affinity Photo. Both Raw POWER and 
Affinity Photo run on iPadOS, iOS, and versions are available for macOS as well 
if you want to use the same software on all your systems. 

I generally use Lightroom Classic to do my photo work on macOS, mostly since 
I've been using it since it went to Public Beta 2 or something like that in 
2005. I haven't used the mobile version of it at all. When I do work on the 
iPad or iPhone, I move the original and the finish files to my Mac and bring 
them into Lightroom Classic for management and, occasionally, additional work. 

G
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> On Mar 8, 2023, at 6:09 AM, Bob W PDML  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that’s on my iPhone, iPad and Mac mini. The Files app came pre-installed 
> on all my platforms. I don’t know if it’s on the App Store- I don’t see why 
> not, but just make sure you get the one by Apple not by Vlad Yabloko.
> 
>> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:51, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Bob, thats wth ipad correct?
>> 
>> My google searches said it can be done but i could not find any links that
>> had visual examples which is best for me, I still have mu old ipad mini
>> vers 2 i suppose is shoudl fire it up and see if i can find this files app
>> or is this something i need to download form the app store, I have an
>> icloud account should figure that out soon then
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 8:32 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the Files app works more or less the same across all three platforms.
>>> You can also use it to access other storage providers, such as MS OneDrive.
>>> 
>>> I keep everything in my iCloud Drive so everything is accessible from all
>>> three.
>>> 
> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:20, David J Brooks  wrote:
 
 Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an
>>> iPad
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/
 
 or something similar.
 
> On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer 
>>> wrote:
> Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
> have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external 

Re: OT Laptops and photo editing

[Bob W PDML]

Yes, that’s on my iPhone, iPad and Mac mini. The Files app came pre-installed 
on all my platforms. I don’t know if it’s on the App Store- I don’t see why 
not, but just make sure you get the one by Apple not by Vlad Yabloko.

> On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:51, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Bob, thats wth ipad correct?
> 
> My google searches said it can be done but i could not find any links that
> had visual examples which is best for me, I still have mu old ipad mini
> vers 2 i suppose is shoudl fire it up and see if i can find this files app
> or is this something i need to download form the app store, I have an
> icloud account should figure that out soon then
> 
> Dave
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 8:32 AM Bob W PDML  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, the Files app works more or less the same across all three platforms.
>> You can also use it to access other storage providers, such as MS OneDrive.
>> 
>> I keep everything in my iCloud Drive so everything is accessible from all
>> three.
>> 
 On 8 Mar 2023, at 13:20, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Doug , anyone else, this is the files i was hoping can be done in an
>> iPad
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/52734445198/
>>> 
>>> or something similar.
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 2:35 PM Doug Brewer 
>> wrote:
 Not sure what you need on the folders question, although I do hope you
 have your photos backed up to at least a couple of external drives in
 case your desktop goes toes up. That said, there's a ton of options for
 storing and manipulating photos on an iPad. I think Godders uses a
 combination of apps along with the Apple Photos software, for example. I
 have Lightroom Mobile and the Pshop for iPad app, so I can sync up with
 my desktop easily. Seems like you mentioned wanting to use more up to
 date versions of both Lr and Ps, so the mobile versions might be the way
 to go.
 Maybe not the clarity you hoped for.
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