Re: Sorry, another K10D post
I also would like to know this, but have seen no mention of it anywhere, and I think I have read just about all of the 2,000 plus messages on the K10D. John On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:32:20 +0100, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry, this to shall pass... So, from my reading of the release, it seems they've fixed some of the gripes I have with the *ist D but I have a couple questions. Sorry if these have been addressed in the posts, I haven't been able to read them all. Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? Crap, I can't think of the other question and I nee to jet to work... Maybe later CW -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
John Forbes wrote: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? I also would like to know this, but have seen no mention of it anywhere, and I think I have read just about all of the 2,000 plus messages on the K10D. I haven't even heard any *rumours* about the presence/absence of this kind of feature! Which probably means it's not present :( Pity, because it would be a big workflow boon for pros or anyone else who shoots a *lot* of images. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On 13.09.2006, at 13:41 , Mark Roberts wrote: I haven't even heard any *rumours* about the presence/absence of this kind of feature! Which probably means it's not present :( Pity, because it would be a big workflow boon for pros or anyone else who shoots a *lot* of images. Expect surprise Mark ;-) Cheers, Sylwek -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On 13/09/06, Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 13.09.2006, at 13:41 , Mark Roberts wrote: I haven't even heard any *rumours* about the presence/absence of this kind of feature! Which probably means it's not present :( Pity, because it would be a big workflow boon for pros or anyone else who shoots a *lot* of images. Expect surprise Mark ;-) Let's hope so, it's something that every digi-PS can do. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On 13/9/06, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? Vertical orientation sensor. Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as non-rotated. This make sense? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Cotty wrote: On 13/9/06, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? Vertical orientation sensor. Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as non-rotated. This make sense? I hadn't thought of that issue. I certainly wouldn't want my autorotation to affect how the camera displays images on its LCD. I just want it in the EXIF and to have software like Photoshop and Bridge automatically recognize it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? That's been a gripe of mine with the -DS (that I only remember when processing a bunch of images). It seems like they could probably use the SR sensors to detect orientation, so it's a freebie. -Cory -- * * Cory Papenfuss, Ph.D., PPSEL-IA * * Electrical Engineering* * Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University * * -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Maybe i'm wrong... but i remember me rotating Canon S3 camera unsuccessfully - still the image stayed the same in LCD :) So i thing better leave just info in EXIF - not allow to affect how it looks in camera. G Cory Papenfuss wrote: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? That's been a gripe of mine with the -DS (that I only remember when processing a bunch of images). It seems like they could probably use the SR sensors to detect orientation, so it's a freebie. -Cory -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On Sep 13, 2006, at 7:25, Cotty wrote: Vertical orientation sensor. Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as non-rotated. This make sense? I seem to recall that the newest Digital Rebel has the option to sense rotation but not rotate in the preview. Actually, I recall a lot of options with regard to that sensor (which I'd really like in the K10D, as long as we're going with the everything but the kitchen sink wishlist!) -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On Sep 13, 2006, at 5:25 AM, Cotty wrote: On 13/9/06, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? Vertical orientation sensor. Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as non-rotated. This make sense? Never seen the point of it, personally. It only takes me a few seconds to rotate several hundred exposures en masse in Bridge, or a moment one at a time when I'm reviewing them on the light table. If they do it, I hope that it can be switched off for the same reason as Cotty. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Mark Roberts wrote: John Forbes wrote: cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? I also would like to know this, but have seen no mention of it anywhere, and I think I have read just about all of the 2,000 plus messages on the K10D. I haven't even heard any *rumours* about the presence/absence of this kind of feature! Which probably means it's not present :( Pity, because it would be a big workflow boon for pros or anyone else who shoots a *lot* of images. I'd like to see this too. My D50 has it and it's quite useful. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Yes Cotty it makes perfect sens to me. It's quite obvious but maybe not for the manufacturers ;) 2006/9/13, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13/9/06, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? Vertical orientation sensor. Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as non-rotated. This make sense? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Makes lots of sense - since I have experienced this myself viewing someone else's review screen. The rotated image was much too small to see compared to the horizontal image. If the K10D does have this rotation feature, I would want the behavior that Cotty describes or at least able to turn it off. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, September 13, 2006, 5:25:56 AM, you wrote: C On 13/9/06, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? C Vertical orientation sensor. C Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the C 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the C back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the C shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark C the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as C non-rotated. This make sense? C -- C Cheers, C Cotty C ___/\__ C || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche C ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com C _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Yes, it makes sense. Cotty wrote: On 13/9/06, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Will it know if you're shooting vertical and write the image so it's right way round when you download? Vertical orientation sensor. Sure it's a plus, but to be honest I wish I could switch it off on the 1D. There are times when I would like to see the pic on the LCD on the back in 'full frame' view, instead of rotated to the height of the shortest dimension (for framing assessment etc). Ideally, it would mark the pic as being rotated which ever way, but display in the camera as non-rotated. This make sense? -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On 13/09/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't thought of that issue. I certainly wouldn't want my autorotation to affect how the camera displays images on its LCD. I just want it in the EXIF and to have software like Photoshop and Bridge automatically recognize it. Yes, that's a bit hideous, I tend to chimp vertical shots with the camera still held in the vertical. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On 13/9/06, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: I seem to recall that the newest Digital Rebel has the option to sense rotation but not rotate in the preview. Actually, I recall a lot of options with regard to that sensor (which I'd really like in the K10D, as long as we're going with the everything but the kitchen sink wishlist!) Just checked the manual. I can switch it on or off, but not as you describe above. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On Sep 13, 2006, at 15:17, Cotty wrote: On 13/9/06, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: I seem to recall that the newest Digital Rebel has the option to sense rotation but not rotate in the preview. Actually, I recall a lot of options with regard to that sensor (which I'd really like in the K10D, as long as we're going with the everything but the kitchen sink wishlist!) Just checked the manual. I can switch it on or off, but not as you describe above. I speak of the 400D or the Rebel xti. You've got that one? From the DPReview preview of that camera: Play rotate options The EOS 400D now gets the same three-position automatic rotate option that we first saw on the EOS 30D, you can choose whether to record orientation information or not and whether you want images in play mode to be automatically rotated. -Charles -- Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
On 13/9/06, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: I speak of the 400D or the Rebel xti. You've got that one? 1DmII From the DPReview preview of that camera: Play rotate options The EOS 400D now gets the same three-position automatic rotate option that we first saw on the EOS 30D, you can choose whether to record orientation information or not and whether you want images in play mode to be automatically rotated. Didn't know that, thanks. I'll settle for 8ps in a metal body for now. I'd rather have a K100D than a 400D, or a K10D than a 30D, but the 1DmII than the K10D. Looks a great unit though. I might pick one up one day, who knows. It can't creak. My D60 creaked and it bugged me no end. I hate plastic. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Sorry, another K10D post
Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 13/9/06, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: I speak of the 400D or the Rebel xti. You've got that one? 1DmII From the DPReview preview of that camera: Play rotate options The EOS 400D now gets the same three-position automatic rotate option that we first saw on the EOS 30D, you can choose whether to record orientation information or not and whether you want images in play mode to be automatically rotated. Didn't know that, thanks. I'll settle for 8ps in a metal body for now. I'd rather have a K100D than a 400D, or a K10D than a 30D, but the 1DmII than the K10D. Looks a great unit though. I might pick one up one day, who knows. It can't creak. My D60 creaked and it bugged me no end. I hate plastic. I'll bring the D200 to GFM. You might like that one. I 'll also bring the D2H incase we need a hammer.:-) Dave -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 13/9/06, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: I 'll also bring the D2H incase we need a hammer.:-) I'll bring tent pegs. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
