At 09:20 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote:
HP: Or are [logic and math] conditions for describing laws?
Indeed they are, but more than that. Parts of mathematics which are
not (yet?) applied in any science are unproblematically developed.
So I would not subscribe to Quine's idea that
Howard, Frederik,
Emerging momentarily from being too busy to participate in these excellent
conversations about NP,
Howard, I have a question about your use of the term phenomenon in your
message prior to the one copied below.
As it's normally used in physics, I think a phenomenon is an
At 09:47 AM 4/28/2015, Gary F wrote:
As
its normally used in physics, I think a
phenomenon is an observable
occurrence. The implication is that it occurs (or perhaps recurs) at a
time. Wouldnt the Big Bang be a better candidate for first phenomenon
than the first self-replication?[snip]
It
At 05:18 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote:
[snip]
- Dicisigns - applies to
biosemiotics as well. To me, this forms part of a naturalization of
semiotics. But, simultaneously, a naturalization which takes generalities
such as empirical universals as well as mathematics/logic as parts of
Dear Howard, lists -
Den 28/04/2015 kl. 12.44 skrev Howard Pattee
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At 05:18 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote:
[snip]
- Dicisigns - applies to biosemiotics as well. To me, this forms part of a
naturalization of semiotics. But,
Hi Cathy, Lists,
Peirce and Mill have developed competing philosophical theories of how to
classify and explain the validity of deductive, inductive and abductive
arguments. Mill's theory is contained in System of Logic Ratiocinative and
Inductive, and Peirce's theory is spread across a wide
Dear Howard, lists,
Den 28/04/2015 kl. 14.47 skrev Howard Pattee
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:
At 07:04 AM 4/28/2015, Frederik Stjernfelt wrote:
[Howard's] questions about your view:
(1) What parts of nature do you include in naturalization of semiotics?
I am not sure I
Frederik, Howard, Lists,
Frederik answered By the first semiosis to Howard's question, When in
the history of the universe do you say the *first proposition* occurs?
Frederik, can you speculate on what you think was the first semiosis like ?
Would you agree that whatever it was, it must have
Howard, interesting definition!
[A phenomenon is information resulting from an individual subject’s detection
of a physical interaction.]
Applying this to your proposition, then, I have to ask: Who or what was the
individual subject who detected the first self-replication, so that the
Dear Sung, Howard, lists -
I tend to agree with Kauffman that some some sort of proto-metabolism must have
been the earliest quasi-life (like his autokatalytic sets), rather than DNA
first or membranes first etc - for the reason that self-sustaining cycles seem
to be the first candidate to
Frederik, Howard, lists,
I agree.
In my opinion, what is widely called autocatalytic is more or less
synonymous with self-organization. As you can see in the 4/14/2015 post
partly reproduced below, Step 4 in Figure 1 is autocatalytic
in that the intermediate X reproduces itself with the help of
Dear Catherine, List,
All I want to put in is my opinion, that there are two kinds -or basic parts- of metaphysics, clearly distinguished: One is experience (axioms), and the other is tautology (mathematics). Ok, mathematics too is based on axioms, but axioms are nothing but themselves, and
Dear Gary, John, lists -
John wrote:
I think we have converged a lot, and I think the issues are much more clear. My
nagging doubt at this point is that as a naturalist I want to see a continuity
between biosemiotics and cognitive semiotics (if I can call it that).
I agree. This is why I
At 10:59 AM 4/28/2015,Gary F.wrote:
Howard, interesting
definition!
[A phenomenon is information resulting from an individual subject's
detection of a physical interaction.]
HP: This definition is just an extension of the classic definition to
subhuman organisms.As a broad academic discipline
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