Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-02-28 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, list, Summarizing Peirce's thought at EP 2.304, Jon wrote: EP 2:304 (1904) - The ideal or perfect Sign is *identical*, in such identity as a Sign may have, with the *unity *of the very Matter denoted by it and the very Form signified by it, such that its Interpretant is *the Truth*. If

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Homo erectus

2018-02-28 Thread Everett, Daniel
Makes perfect sense to me. As I say in the article, several species have learned symbols and are claimed to have culture. What we lack is a species outside of Homo that has invented a symbol. But I will be happy if one is found. One point of my article is that the key to language is not syntax

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Homo erectus

2018-02-28 Thread John F Sowa
Dan, Thanks for the pointer to your article. On a related issue, I came across a Ted talk by Susan Savage-Rumbaugh who showed some video clips about the remarkable abilities of bonobos who learned symbols to communicate. They also learned to understand a subset of spoken English that includes

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-02-28 Thread Gary Richmond
Jon, list, I would tend to agree with your conclusion. JAS: [It] seems to me that a Quasi-mind can be defined as an *individual *Sign that is also a *complex *of Signs, which are connected such that they are susceptible to determination by *another *Sign to a *single *Interpretant. The

[PEIRCE-L] Homo erectus

2018-02-28 Thread Everett, Daniel
https://aeon.co/essays/tools-and-voyages-suggest-that-homo-erectus-invented-language You might find this fun. I do invoke Peirce. Dan Sent from my iPhone - PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Quasi-minds Revisited

2018-02-28 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
List: Since there have been no comments on my revised summary of what Peirce wrote about Quasi-minds, I guess that we can move on to some related topics. As Gary R. pointed out a while back, Peirce observed that there are "various meanings of the word 'Mind,' Logical, Metaphysical, and

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Quasi-mind

2018-02-28 Thread kirstima
Good points. But both of you seem to move only within the thin air of abstractions. There is a need for concrete demonstrations. Examples to examine, for example. Kirsti g...@gnusystems.ca kirjoitti 19.2.2018 14:47: Jon, Your collection of Peirce quotes deploying the term “quasi-mind” (if

[PEIRCE-L] Extended Deadline: 2nd International Conference Semiosis in Communication: Differences and Similarities

2018-02-28 Thread Gary Richmond
Forwarded FYI: Extended Deadline: 2nd International Conference Semiosis in Communication: Differences and Similarities *2nd International* *Conference Semiosis in Communication: Differences and Similarities*, June 14-16, 2018, Bucharest, Romania. We are glad to announce that the abstract