Jon, list,

I would tend to agree with your conclusion.

JAS: [It] seems to me that a Quasi-mind can be defined as an *individual *Sign
that is also a *complex *of Signs, which are connected such that they are
susceptible to determination by *another *Sign to a *single *Interpretant.
The additional Sign may be either a *natural *Sign determined directly by a
Dynamic Object that the Quasi-mind encounters, or a *genuine *Sign
determined by another Quasi-mind (perhaps its *past *self) with which it
becomes welded in that Sign.  The resulting Interpretant may be a
*further *genuine
Sign that determines yet another Quasi-mind (perhaps its *future *self).

Peirce's characteristic emphasis on continuity is evident here.  The flow
of Signs within and between Quasi-minds is much like the flow of time
itself, which has no *discrete *instants--only *infinitesimal *moments (cf.
CP 7.653; 1903).  That is why *any *analysis of concrete semiosis must be
*arbitrary *to some degree--designating one Sign within a process of
Sign-action is like marking one point on a line; in both cases, we are
introducing a *discontinuity *into that which is *continuous *in itself.

Well analyzed!  As I'm now seeing it, the Quasi-mind, a Sign which, as you
wrote, is also a complex of Signs, is in itself nothing special--nothing
mysterious, and certainly not the perfect sign at all, but something like
the prerequisite of all semiosis and communication;  that is,
* a requirement of semiosis itself when one considers Sign-action in the
light of continuity.*

Best,

Gary R





*Gary Richmond*
*Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
*Communication Studies*
*LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
*718 482-5690*

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <[email protected]>
wrote:

> List:
>
> Per Gary R.'s suggestion, I set aside the concept of "perfect Sign" for a
> little while to focus on the concept of "Quasi-mind."  After going back
> through the key quotes (https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/
> arc/peirce-l/2018-02/msg00322.html), all of which are from 1906, here is
> a revised summary.
>
>    1. Every Sign is a *determination *of a Quasi-mind, which is something
>    of the general nature of a Mind.
>       1. The Quasi-mind is *itself *a Sign that is susceptible to
>       determination, but it is not logically necessary that it possess
>       *consciousness*.
>       2. There are no *isolated *Signs, and multiple Signs connected such
>       that they can have *one *Interpretant are determinations of *one *
>       Quasi-mind.
>       3. The determinations of a Quasi-mind become Immediate
>       Interpretants of all other Signs whose Dynamic Interpretants are
>       dynamically connected
>       2. Every Sign requires *two *distinct Quasi-minds, a *Quasi-utterer*
>    and a *Quasi-interpreter*, which may be temporally successive versions
>    of the *same *Quasi-mind; as well as a *third *Quasi-mind that is
>    their overlap, the *Commens*.
>       1. The essential ingredient of the Quasi-utterer is the (Dynamic)
>       Object, which determines the Sign *only *in the respect (Immediate
>       Object) that enables the Sign to act on the Quasi-interpreter as the 
> Object *itself
>       *would.
>       2. The essential ingredient of the Quasi-interpreter is the
>       (Dynamic) Interpretant, which the Sign produces as a *singular *event
>       by determining the Quasi-interpreter to a feeling, to an exertion,
>       or to another Sign.
>       3. The essential ingredient of the Commens is the Sign itself,
>       which *welds *the Quasi-utterer and Quasi-interpreter into *one 
> *Quasi-mind
>       that includes whatever they must *already *share for the Sign to
>       fulfill its function.
>       4. When there is no *actual *Quasi-interpreter, the (Immediate)
>       Interpretant is the range of *possible *effects that the Sign
>       *would *produce, if it *were *to determine a Quasi-interpreter.
>       5. When there *is *a Quasi-interpreter, the (Dynamic) Interpretant
>       is a state of activity, mingled with curiosity, that usually leads to
>       experimentation as the normal logical effect.
>    3. In Existential Graphs, the Sheet of Assertion or Phemic Sheet is ...
>       1. the *matter *that the Graph-instances are to determine, in which
>       the Graphist and Interpreter are *at one*.
>       2. the *means *by which the Graphist and Interpreter *collaborate *in
>       composing a Pheme [or Dicisign] and in operating on this so as to 
> develop a
>       Delome [or Argument].
>       3. a Diagram of the logical Quasi-mind that is determined by all of
>       the Signs represented on it.
>       4. a Diagram of the logical Universe and a Seme [or Rheme] of *the
>       Truth*, the widest Universe of Reality.
>       5. a Pheme [or Dicisign] of the Commens, all that is tacitly taken
>       for granted between the Graphist and Interpreter from the outset of 
> their
>       discussion.
>
> Based on all of this, it seems to me that a Quasi-mind can be defined as
> an *individual *Sign that is also a *complex *of Signs, which are
> connected such that they are susceptible to determination by *another *Sign
> to a *single *Interpretant. The additional Sign may be either a *natural *Sign
> determined directly by a Dynamic Object that the Quasi-mind encounters, or
> a *genuine *Sign determined by another Quasi-mind (perhaps its *past *self)
> with which it becomes welded in that Sign.  The resulting Interpretant
> may be a *further *genuine Sign that determines yet another Quasi-mind
> (perhaps its *future *self).
>
> Peirce's characteristic emphasis on continuity is evident here.  The flow
> of Signs within and between Quasi-minds is much like the flow of time
> itself, which has no *discrete *instants--only *infinitesimal *moments
> (cf. CP 7.653; 1903).  That is why *any *analysis of concrete semiosis
> must be *arbitrary *to some degree--designating one Sign within a process
> of Sign-action is like marking one point on a line; in both cases, we are
> introducing a *discontinuity *into that which is *continuous *in itself.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
> Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
> www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
>
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