List:

Since there have been no comments on my revised summary of what Peirce
wrote about Quasi-minds, I guess that we can move on to some related topics.

As Gary R. pointed out a while back, Peirce observed that there are
"various meanings of the word 'Mind,' Logical, Metaphysical, and
Psychological" (CP 4.550; 1906); and presumably the same is true of his
concept of a Quasi-mind.  Consequently, it is important to be clear about
which one is in view, and I believe that so far we have been focusing
primarily on its *logical *aspects.  However, presumably there must be
*real* Quasi-minds that play an indispensable role in any *concrete*
instance of semiosis.  This obviously takes us from logic into metaphysics.



CSP:  The logician is not concerned with any metaphysical theory; still
less, if possible, is the mathematician. But it is highly convenient to
express ourselves in terms of a metaphysical theory … (EP 2:304; 1904)



The following is my summary of a few passages that I think are especially
helpful for sorting out the nature of *actual* Signs and Sign-action.
Interestingly,
they lead to a notion of "perfect sign" that (at least initially) seems
different from what Peirce described in EP 2:545n25.

   - EP 2:304 (1904) - Every Sign *denotes *its Object (Matter/2ns),
   *signifies* characters or qualities (Form/1ns), and *determines* its
   Interpretant that unites them (Entelechy/3ns).
   - EP 2:544n22 (1906) - The Sign is *passive *in its relation to its
   Object, being determined by but not affecting it; and *active *in its
   relation to its Interpretant, determining but not being affected by it.
   - EP 2:410 (1907) - The Sign *mediates *between its Object and
   Interpretant; it is determined by the Object *relatively to the
   Interpretant*, and determines the Interpretant *in reference to the
   Object*.
   - EP 2:544n22 (1906) - The Sign *communicates *a Form, which has the
   being of the *predicate*, the truth of a conditional proposition; it is
   in the Dynamic Object *entitatively* and in the Sign (as its Immediate
   Object) *representatively*.
   - EP 2:307 (1904) - A pure *Icon *is perfect in respect to
   signification, but lacking in denotation; while a pure *Index* is
   perfect in respect to denotation, but lacking in signification.
   - EP 2:304 (1904) - The ideal or perfect Sign is *identical*, in such
   identity as a Sign may have, with the *unity *of the very Matter denoted
   by it and the very Form signified by it, such that its Interpretant is *the
   Truth*.



Again, "determines" in this context means "makes more determinate," and
this must always occur *with respect to a character or quality*; i.e., a
Form.  The more attributes of the Dynamic Object that the Immediate Object
of the Sign includes, the closer the Interpretant comes to reproducing the
*entire *effect that the Dynamic Object *itself *would have on the
Quasi-interpreter (cf. EP 2:391; 1906).


Therefore, a perfect Sign in *this* sense is one that achieves Entelechy,
the complete unity of Matter and Form in its Interpretant.  This is
the final cause of all *triadic* semiosis, Truth as "the conformity of a
representamen to its object--its object, ITS object, mind you" (CP 5.554,
EP 2:380; 1906).  By contrast, *dyadic *action occurs when there is no
mediating Sign; just two Dynamic Objects directly and reciprocally
affecting each other (cf. EP 2:411; 1907).

Regards,

Jon S.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> List:
>
> Per Gary R.'s suggestion, I set aside the concept of "perfect Sign" for a
> little while to focus on the concept of "Quasi-mind."  After going back
> through the key quotes (https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/
> arc/peirce-l/2018-02/msg00322.html), all of which are from 1906, here is
> a revised summary.
>
>    1. Every Sign is a *determination *of a Quasi-mind, which is something
>    of the general nature of a Mind.
>       1. The Quasi-mind is *itself *a Sign that is susceptible to
>       determination, but it is not logically necessary that it possess
>       *consciousness*.
>       2. There are no *isolated *Signs, and multiple Signs connected such
>       that they can have *one *Interpretant are determinations of *one *
>       Quasi-mind.
>       3. The determinations of a Quasi-mind become Immediate
>       Interpretants of all other Signs whose Dynamic Interpretants are
>       dynamically connected
>       2. Every Sign requires *two *distinct Quasi-minds, a *Quasi-utterer*
>    and a *Quasi-interpreter*, which may be temporally successive versions
>    of the *same *Quasi-mind; as well as a *third *Quasi-mind that is
>    their overlap, the *Commens*.
>       1. The essential ingredient of the Quasi-utterer is the (Dynamic)
>       Object, which determines the Sign *only *in the respect (Immediate
>       Object) that enables the Sign to act on the Quasi-interpreter as the 
> Object *itself
>       *would.
>       2. The essential ingredient of the Quasi-interpreter is the
>       (Dynamic) Interpretant, which the Sign produces as a *singular *event
>       by determining the Quasi-interpreter to a feeling, to an exertion,
>       or to another Sign.
>       3. The essential ingredient of the Commens is the Sign itself,
>       which *welds *the Quasi-utterer and Quasi-interpreter into *one 
> *Quasi-mind
>       that includes whatever they must *already *share for the Sign to
>       fulfill its function.
>       4. When there is no *actual *Quasi-interpreter, the (Immediate)
>       Interpretant is the range of *possible *effects that the Sign
>       *would *produce, if it *were *to determine a Quasi-interpreter.
>       5. When there *is *a Quasi-interpreter, the (Dynamic) Interpretant
>       is a state of activity, mingled with curiosity, that usually leads to
>       experimentation as the normal logical effect.
>    3. In Existential Graphs, the Sheet of Assertion or Phemic Sheet is ...
>       1. the *matter *that the Graph-instances are to determine, in which
>       the Graphist and Interpreter are *at one*.
>       2. the *means *by which the Graphist and Interpreter *collaborate *in
>       composing a Pheme [or Dicisign] and in operating on this so as to 
> develop a
>       Delome [or Argument].
>       3. a Diagram of the logical Quasi-mind that is determined by all of
>       the Signs represented on it.
>       4. a Diagram of the logical Universe and a Seme [or Rheme] of *the
>       Truth*, the widest Universe of Reality.
>       5. a Pheme [or Dicisign] of the Commens, all that is tacitly taken
>       for granted between the Graphist and Interpreter from the outset of 
> their
>       discussion.
>
> Based on all of this, it seems to me that a Quasi-mind can be defined as
> an *individual *Sign that is also a *complex *of Signs, which are
> connected such that they are susceptible to determination by *another *Sign
> to a *single *Interpretant. The additional Sign may be either a *natural *Sign
> determined directly by a Dynamic Object that the Quasi-mind encounters, or
> a *genuine *Sign determined by another Quasi-mind (perhaps its *past *self)
> with which it becomes welded in that Sign.  The resulting Interpretant
> may be a *further *genuine Sign that determines yet another Quasi-mind
> (perhaps its *future *self).
>
> Peirce's characteristic emphasis on continuity is evident here.  The flow
> of Signs within and between Quasi-minds is much like the flow of time
> itself, which has no *discrete *instants--only *infinitesimal *moments
> (cf. CP 7.653; 1903).  That is why *any *analysis of concrete semiosis
> must be *arbitrary *to some degree--designating one Sign within a process
> of Sign-action is like marking one point on a line; in both cases, we are
> introducing a *discontinuity *into that which is *continuous *in itself.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
> Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
> www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
>
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