Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's late classification of signs

2018-07-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List: > On Jul 4, 2018, at 12:27 PM, g...@gnusystems.ca wrote: > > [[ If we take any proposition, say > > A sinner kills a saint > > and if we erase portions of it, so as to leave it a blank form of > proposition, the blanks being such that if every one of them is filled with a > proper

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's late classification of signs

2018-07-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: As I have acknowledged previously, Peirce evidently changed his mind about what a Sign *signifies*. In 1904, "every sign sufficiently complete *signifies characters*, or qualities"--i.e., "Aristotelian *Form*"--such that "The totality of the predicates of a sign, and also the

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's late classification of signs

2018-07-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: GF: Is the continuous predicate still a *rheme* when all the ‘matter’ has been extracted from its ‘form’, so that nothing is left but an infinitely recursive “is in the relation to”? I would say no. A Rheme not only must have at least one blank *empty*, but also at least one

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's late classification of signs

2018-07-04 Thread gnox
Jon, just one question here: What’s the change of mind that you are referring to when you say “Peirce's initial parallelism here aligns the Object of a Sign with its Breadth, and its Interpretant with its Depth; so he evidently had changed his mind about the latter already by 1906”? Change from

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's late classification of signs

2018-07-04 Thread gnox
Jon, you asked, “How would you spell out the difference between a Rheme and a Seme? What would be an example of something that is a Seme, but not a Rheme?” I think Bellucci gives a very lucid explanation of the two-stage process of generalization that went from term/proposition/argument to

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Peirce's late classification of signs

2018-07-04 Thread Jon Alan Schmidt
Gary F., List: As if my previous post were not long enough already, last night I read through "Prolegomena" (1906) in its entirety and came across two other passages that struck me as worth mentioning. CSP: A common mode of estimating the amount of matter in a MS. or printed book is to count