Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6901] Re: Natural

2014-09-22 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Howard, lists - Den 22/09/2014 kl. 02.47 skrev Howard Pattee hpat...@roadrunner.commailto:hpat...@roadrunner.com : But Howard, this is a different position than the one you presented in the earlier quote just some lines before. There, each foundation of math was legitimized by specific

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6936] Re: Natural Propositions,

2014-09-22 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Jeff K, lists - I merely reproduced P's argument for his hierarchy of sciences from memory because it came up in the list discussion - it is not something playing a prominent role in the argument of my book (apart from the issue of (anti-)psychologism). Best F Den 22/09/2014 kl. 06.50

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6912] Re: Natural Propositions,

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Fuhrman
Stefan, I haven’t read enough of the authors you cite (except Berger and Luckmann) to answer this question, but I think that position would be an extreme one even among social constructivists. That’s why I refer to Stan’s argument as “radical” social constructivism, because he likes (or feels

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Triadic Philosophy

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Clark Goble cl...@libertypages.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Stephen C. Rose stever...@gmail.com mailto:stever...@gmail.com wrote: 2) Which of Peirce’s writings contribute to the development and articulation of his late value theory?

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6834] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Clark Goble cl...@libertypages.com wrote: On Sep 18, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Gary Fuhrman g...@gnusystems.ca mailto:g...@gnusystems.ca wrote: Clark, in reference to the Peirce passage you quoted about the “community of quasi-minds”, you said that “While we could

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6844] Re: Natural Propositions: like

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 21, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Clark Goble cl...@libertypages.com wrote: On Sep 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Frederik Stjernfelt stj...@hum.ku.dk mailto:stj...@hum.ku.dk wrote: My claim is certainly not that Husserl and Peirce agree in all respects. Just that both of them unite objectivity with

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Beyond the Correspondence Theory of Truth

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Clark Goble cl...@libertypages.com wrote: On Sep 21, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Frederik Stjernfelt stj...@hum.ku.dk mailto:stj...@hum.ku.dk wrote: To Peirce, the relation of similarity connecting a diagram to its real-world object is not necessarily easy to grasp -

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Physics Semiosis

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:58 PM, Clark Goble cl...@libertypages.com wrote: On Sep 17, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Frederik Stjernfelt stj...@hum.ku.dk mailto:stj...@hum.ku.dk wrote: I am not sure complexity is enough, also because of the fact that we have no agreed-upon measurement of the degree of

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6900] Re: Natural Propositions,

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 21, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Clark Goble cl...@libertypages.com wrote: On Sep 20, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Udell bud...@nyc.rr.com mailto:bud...@nyc.rr.com wrote: The main idea is not that of a long run. Instead the idea is that of sufficient investigation. Call it 'sufficiently

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Natural Propositions: revised schedule

2014-09-22 Thread Edwina Taborsky
As you say, Gary F, it's a trivial but interesting question on pronunciation. I myself, to myself, pronounce 'dicent' as 'die-cent'; rather than 'decent' yet also with the soft c. And 'dicisign' also with the soft c. My 'cultural norm' (shades of Stan!) suggests a soft c after the vowels of

[PEIRCE-L] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.1

2014-09-22 Thread Jon Awbrey
Re: Gary Fuhrman At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/14236 Gary, List, Just by way of putting the skinny in the lead, I am going to experiment with using the term dicent proposition to refer to the specifically Peircean brand of proposition treated in this chapter

Re: [PEIRCE-L] [biosemiotics:6950] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

2014-09-22 Thread Clark Goble
On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Benjamin Udell bud...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On 9/22/2014 12:15 PM, Bob Logan wrote: Dear All - Sorry for the last posting I inadvertently sent it before I was finished. What I wanted to say is this in response to John's request for thoughts: I would say

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6938] psychologisms not addressed

2014-09-22 Thread Gary Richmond
Frederik, lists, I haven't spent much time of late studying the literature of contemporary neuroscience in general and Barsalou's theory in particular. Since I'm away from my desk until this evening, I thought I'd at least take a glance at some of that literature before re-reading your section on

RE: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:6908] Re: Natural Propositions,

2014-09-22 Thread Catherine Legg
This is a beautiful post, Ben! You expose so clearly the pragmatic heft of Peirce’s concept of truth. Such considerations cry out to be presented to first-year philosophy students, most of whom come in thinking that some kind of social constructivism is the only educated or open-minded or

[PEIRCE-L] FW: The Second Metaphysical Club and its Impact on American Science and Philosophy (Perspectives on Science)

2014-09-22 Thread Catherine Legg
Dear Peirce List, This is forwarded from Jean-Marie Chevalier. Looks very interesting! Cheers, Cathy *Call for PapersSpecial Issue of Perspectives on Science* THEME: *The Second Metaphysical Club and its Impact on the Development of American Science and Philosophy* GUEST EDITORS: