[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7962] Natural Propositions:

2015-01-18 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Stan, lists - But Stan commits the same mistake of trying to purge one universal by means of another - this time culture is the new universal assumed to be more real than evolution … In Stan's argument, cultures are assumed to be real and to determine minds of different individuals …

Re: Contradictories, contraries, etc. WAS Re: [PEIRCE-L] Natural Propositions : Chapter 8 - On the philosophical nature of semiosis?

2015-01-18 Thread Benjamin Udell
Hi, Jim, I think that Graph 222 (at http://www.existentialgraphs.com/peirceoneg/improvement_on_the_gamma_Graphs.htm ) isn't an open (unquantified, free) variable, instead it says that /there is/ a man x such that /there is/ a man /y/, etc. I was wondering the other day how one does express

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7958] Re: Natural Propositions:

2015-01-18 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Hmm. My understanding of the scholastic 'universal' (the Aristotelian, to which I am assuming Peirce refers) is quite different from the specific actualities of genes and natural selection. These two are actualities and very specific despite their having observable commonalities with, eg, a

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7957] Re: Natural Propositions:

2015-01-18 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Edwina, lists - The neo-Darwinist conception of evolution works nicely as an example, exactly because it is so stripped-down. Even a concept as naked as that refers to real universals - as Edwina writes, to genes, and natural selection. F Den 18/01/2015 kl. 19.30 skrev Edwina Taborsky

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7955] Natural Propositions:

2015-01-18 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Stan and Frederik: I think that you both are talking about different issues. It's not whether or not evolution is a 'real process', or even about the notion of 'realism' vs 'nominalism' (whether one uses the scholastic or non-scholastic definition of those two terms). I think Stan was referring

[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7955] Natural Propositions:

2015-01-18 Thread Frederik Stjernfelt
Dear Stan, lists - I am making no claims as to trends etc. - I am making the very simple case that evolution is a real process. And I am adding that attempts to make nominalist reconstructions of the concept evolution do not fail to introduce other universals taken for real, such as, in Stan's