Stan and Frederik: I think that you both are talking about different issues. It's not whether or not evolution is a 'real process', or even about the notion of 'realism' vs 'nominalism' (whether one uses the scholastic or non-scholastic definition of those two terms). I think Stan was referring to the very definition of 'what is evolution'. The neoDarwinians have a very simple (simplistic?) definition which rejects any notion of there being 'potentialities', 'probabilities' or 'possibilities' . There's the status quo genes; there's natural selection; and that's it.
Edwina ----- Original Message ----- From: Frederik Stjernfelt To: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee ; Peirce Discussion Forum (PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu) Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 1:20 PM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7955] Natural Propositions: Dear Stan, lists - I am making no claims as to trends etc. - I am making the very simple case that evolution is a real process. And I am adding that attempts to make nominalist reconstructions of the concept evolution do not fail to introduce other universals taken for real, such as, in Stan's account, the notions of "generation", "fossil", "construct", etc. Best F Den 18/01/2015 kl. 16.43 skrev Stanley N Salthe <ssal...@binghamton.edu>: Frederick -- Your assertion that the results of selections at different levels might be taken to show real tendencies transgresses the neoDarwinian perspective on selection (and, of course, they own the concept at present!), which is that there are no real trends across generations. All selection pressures would be generated from moment to moment according to bearing conditions. Thus, for example, suppose we observe in the fossil record an increase in the length of rhinoceros horns over many generations, or over sequences of species in the fossil record. A neoDarwinian would NOT claim that there was a trend toward larger horns. Such a trend observed after the fact would be held to be a nominallst construct. STAN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm .
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