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2018-08-11 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
Do you consider Feynman and Bohr and Bell and other scientists who have articulated both their areas of knowledge and ignorance online fakes? There is a huge chasm (binary) between a material understanding (contra Peirce for certain) and things that point to a sense of oneness, unity and so forth.

Re: [PEIRCE-L] Teaching EGs. (was Culture wires the brain

2018-08-11 Thread Edwina Taborsky
BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }John - many thanks for the slides - they are excellent - The introduction set is very easy to follow. Edwina On Sat 11/08/18 12:38 PM , John F Sowa s...@bestweb.net sent: On 8/11/2018 11:25 AM, Helmut Raulien

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2018-08-11 Thread Helmut Raulien
Dear Stephen, List, I completely agree. Maybe the question remains, whether "universal" means "primordial" or rather "ultimate", or both, but that is too theological and speculative, I guess, and trying to answer it would be futile. Best, helmut   11. August 2018 um 18:37 Uhr  "Stephen

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
I have no idea how the inner permutations work -- I address things to the person I am addressing and Peirce list. If they do not get there I have no idea why. Please feel free to reproduce whatever you want to reply to. I never see anything I send to the list ever. amazon.com/author/stephenrose

[PEIRCE-L] Teaching EGs. (was Culture wires the brain

2018-08-11 Thread John F Sowa
On 8/11/2018 11:25 AM, Helmut Raulien wrote: But aren´t EGs _the_ proper tool for ontology? ... Somebody else please say something. Peirce and I would agree. But the people who are working on ontology know very little about EGs. I've been writing and lecturing about EGs for years, especially

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
We live in time-space and we also accept logos. To do both allows for confidence that ultimately matters are out of our hands. At the same time we have a purpose here. I see that as inevitably social and so it makes a difference whether for example the elections go one way or another. Either way

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2018-08-11 Thread Helmut Raulien
Stephen C. R., List,   I agree with the action values. But aren´t EGs the proper tool for ontology? Because Ontology is about being, existence, what "is", but the term "is" is ambiguous, or polyguous, other than the "cut" of the EGs, which is well defined, and not culture- or taste-relative? I

Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Culture wires the brain

2018-08-11 Thread Stephen Curtiss Rose
EGs are an acquired taste like frogs legs and kale. Words that survive have many permutations. I would never use myth to mean something not real or a lie. But there we have it. We are in a very binary phase. But when we come out of it we need to suggest that some things are ontological -- true

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2018-08-11 Thread Helmut Raulien
Stephen, Stephen, List,   I think it would be better, if in politics Peirce´s existential graphs would be applied. Then it would e.g. be clear, that if "liberal" is inside the cut, "fascist" , and "hammer and sickle" would be outside of it. Also quasi-fascists calling themselves liberals, and