Jon,
Your note of April 20 (copied below) is indeed a serious question for
pragmatists. It contains claims and assumptions that Peirce would not accept.
I'll start with an issue we had discussed some time ago.
I wrote that the Christians who translated the Greek New Testament to Chinese
List,
Peirce-L subscriber, Atila Bayat, meant to send this post to the entire
forum, but posted it to me. He's asked me to resend it for him. See
directly below. GR
Gary, I wanted to answer an earlier thread, of yours but lost the cue.
Much or all of our public media has our intellectuals in a
Schmidt
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Jeff, List:
You and I seem to be more or less on the same page here, along with Martin in
light of his helpful clarification that avoiding "originalism" and "endism
Jeff, List:
You and I seem to be more or less on the same page here, along with Martin
in light of his helpful clarification that avoiding "originalism" and
"endism" simply means recognizing that inquiry has no definite beginning or
end--just like the universe in Peirce's cosmology, and
would take some work.
Yours,
Jeff
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Jon, I think that’s a fair description of Peirce’s
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Gary F., List:
I doubt that Peirce's
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For anyone interested, attached is my complete tr
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Dear Jon & everyone following this string,
You ask what I mean by originalism and endism in the context of practical
deliberation.
Quick review of where we’re at...Science is an open system, based on
probabilities. And, according to Peirce, the evolving practice of science is
guided by three
Gary, and Peirce-list;
To your two questions, Gary…(and keep in mind that I’m still working all of
this out)
1) What does the “pulling" in a leadership relationship is the future (vs the
leader or the follower) that leader and follower are committed to. They are
pulled forward together by the
Thanks Jon. The Cog Math paper looks great. (Will see if my computer will get the first link better than my iphone). DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 11:53, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:Dan, List:Sorry, the first link seems to be working fine for me, but the second one is indeed broken. Please try
Gary R., Harris, List:
For the record, I deliberately chose "drawing" as the verb for my
description of leading in accordance with 3ns rather than 2ns, because
"pulling" strikes me as having the same efficient-causal forcefulness as
"pushing." Genuine followers, whom we might call "disciples,"
Dan, List:
Sorry, the first link seems to be working fine for me, but the second one
is indeed broken. Please try
https://rd.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-030-44982-7_25-1
instead.
Thanks,
Jon
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Perhaps it is my iphone but I did not have any luck with those links Jon. DanOn Apr 21, 2023, at 09:49, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:Martin, List:Indeed, I have argued in publications about structural engineering (https://www.structuremag.org/?p=10373) and cognitive mathematics
Martin, List:
Indeed, I have argued in publications about structural engineering (
https://www.structuremag.org/?p=10373) and cognitive mathematics (
https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-030-44982-7_25-1) that the logic of *inquiry *as
explicated by Peirce can be adapted to outline the logic of
Gary, Jon, All:
Jon left us with some very interesting quotes that I, like Gary, would love
more discussion about! Maybe this can spur some of the discussion.
1) *"the theory of logic, in so far as we attain to it, is the vision and
the attainment of that Reasonableness for the sake of which the
Martin, Jon, List,
If we agree that 'logic is rooted in the social impulse' and that pursuing
-- in our daily thought and actions -- Peirce's summum bonum of directing
these impulses to 'the reasonable in itself', that leadership is yet
necessary, then Jon's notion of a leadership style of
Thank you, Jon. You nailed the essence of the inquiry in leadership I’m
conducting.
Which leads me to say, more generally that whether we’re looking at life as
consumers or voters, family- or community members, and we want to go about it
pragmatically, then we want to about it as inquirers,
Martin, Gary R., List:
The challenge that we face as Peirceans today is advocating not only
scholastic realism and objective idealism in an intellectual climate of
widespread (and often uncritical) nominalism and materialism, but also
value monism in an intellectual climate of widespread
I appreciate your response, Gary.
Yes, serving our world as pragmatists is fundamentally about leading our lives
as expressions of the summum bonum, and the passages from Peirce’s papers
rooting the logic of probability in the "social impulse” are at the core of the
book I’m writing on
Martin, List,
Thanks for joining our 10 minute thesis presentation this past Saturday and
for your post to Peirce-L today.
I think that your suggestion that "there’s a. . . fundamental and urgent
question to ask ourselves about how to insinuate realism in a
nominalist/individualist world" points
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