[PEIRCE-L] Re: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
Gary F - Nope - I don't think that you have effectively brushed the crumbs of Edwina off your hands and can go on your merry way. [There! I told her off didn't I. So much for her!] Why are you always so angry? Icons don't commit themselves to any information or meaning - how can they - but

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
Gary F., Edwina, Lists, I find myself agreeing with both sides in this disagreement. Am I confused? Icons themselves involve connectivity and thus continuity because a qualisign may be connected to a token figure and a rule for interpreting those connections--and not yet have the kind of

[PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Jeffrey Brian Downard
...@lists.ut.ee; 'Peirce List' Subject: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6) Gary F., Edwina, Lists, I find myself agreeing with both sides in this disagreement. Am I confused? Icons themselves involve connectivity and thus continuity

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
for your input. Edwina - Original Message - From: Jeffrey Brian Downard jeffrey.down...@nau.edu To: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; 'Peirce List' PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural

Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
- Original Message - From: Jeffrey Brian Downard jeffrey.down...@nau.edu To: biosemiot...@lists.ut.ee; Peirce List PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6) Gary F

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Stephen C. Rose
*Cc:* Peirce List PEIRCE-L@list.iupui.edu *Sent:* Saturday, October 04, 2014 5:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6) I'm confused. ET: my understanding of the 'icon' in that it is not a Sign, even though many seem

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Sungchul Ji
Dear Stephen, Rest assured that you are not confused. I am afraid it is Edwina who seems confused about the meaning of an icon that has dual meanings -- (i) one of the three relations between the representamen and its object, which is the only meaning of 'icon' to her, and (ii) the name of that

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Edwina Taborsky
, October 04, 2014 4:22 PM Subject: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6) Gary F., Edwina, Lists, I find myself agreeing with both sides in this disagreement. Am I confused? Icons themselves involve connectivity and thus

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Stephen C. Rose
And what makes a difference as always as that practical effect which is at the end of every consideration. Or did he not say that too? *@stephencrose https://twitter.com/stephencrose* On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Sungchul Ji s...@rci.rutgers.edu wrote: Dear Stephen, Rest assured that you

Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6)

2014-10-04 Thread Sungchul Ji
To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: Aw: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6) I suspect, that in this quote Peirce meant sign for representamen, and by writing whether they be... he

Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:7077] iconic commitment (was: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.6) in essence engage in a form of hermeneutics

2014-10-04 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List, Stephen: On Oct 4, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Stephen C. Rose wrote: in essence engage in a form of hermeneutics. Consider the triadic triad: It contains nine terms. Five of these nine terms were of CSP coinage. CSP and CSP alone understands why the majority of these nines terms were