[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Claudio Guerri
Patrick, List, Patrick wrote the 28 June: I like to start out from Peirce's definition of the real as that object for which truth stands I could not find this definition in the CP... could you tell from where you got it? I found this one, closely related: CP 1.339 [...] Finally, the

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Claudio, Patrick, list, That object for which truth stands doesn't sound fully like Peirce. But Peirce did say that truth is of a predicate, proposition, assertion, etc. ; a true predicate corresponds to its object. Inquiry seeks to arrive at true signs about the real. 66~~~ ('A Sketch of

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
It is found in How to Make Our Ideas Clear: The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate, is what we mean by the truth, and the object represented in this opinion is the real. That is the way I would explain reality. CP 5.407 Joe Ransdell - Original

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Michael J. DeLaurentis
May be way out of school here, but what is the ultimate fate of opinion, representation: ultimate merger with what is represented? Isn't all mind evolving toward matter, all sporting ultimately destined to end? -Original Message- From: Joseph Ransdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Piat
It is found in How to Make Our Ideas Clear: The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate, is what we mean by the truth, and the object represented in this opinion is the real. That is the way I would explain reality. CP 5.407 Joe Ransdell Dear Folks,

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
So it would seem, according to Peirce -- at first. But upon reflection, what could that possibly mean? Since it is supposed to be something that comes about only asymptotically, which is to say, not at all, it doesn't seem to make much difference one way or the other, does it? Then, too,

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help! ...real-reality... truth...

2006-06-29 Thread Claudio Guerri
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[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Michael said: [MD:] Haven't had the pleasure of Calvino's Cosmicomics, [but] I like the antidotal sound of it [cure for hyper-seriousness]. The asymptotic/singularities of beginnings and endings in continuous processes challenge all systems that allow for them, and do make for pretzelian

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Interesting remarks, including but not limited to those by Peirce. Maybe I should add that I find it difficult to believe that anyone has actually been able to read all of the way through Calvino's practical joke of a book! It's also difficult to believe that anyone eats all the way through a

[peirce-l] Re: A sign as First or third...

2006-06-29 Thread ALASE _Asociación Latinoamericana de Semiótica_
Jorge, We haven't understood the purpose of your post to Claudio. Would you be able to clarify it?. VTY, AlaseJorge Lurac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Claudio, List,Justa small bibliographic collaboration.Cheers,J. LuracClaudio Guerri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jorge, List,I