[peirce-l] Re: A sign as First or third...

2006-06-29 Thread ALASE _Asociación Latinoamericana de Semiótica_
Jorge,    We haven't understood the purpose of your post to Claudio. Would you be able to clarify it?.    VTY,  AlaseJorge Lurac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Claudio, List,    Just a small bibliographic collaboration.   Cheers,   J. LuracClaudio Guerri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jorg

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Interesting remarks, including but not limited to those by Peirce. >Maybe I should add that I find it difficult to believe that anyone has >actually been able to read all of the way through Calvino's practical joke of >a book! It's also difficult to believe that anyone eats all the way through

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
Michael said: [MD:] Haven't had the pleasure of Calvino's "Cosmicomics," [but] I like the antidotal sound of it [cure for hyper-seriousness]. The asymptotic/singularities of beginnings and endings in continuous processes challenge all systems that allow for them, and do make for pretzelian th

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help! ...real-reality... truth...

2006-06-29 Thread Claudio Guerri
tion is true.  I > wanted to make sure I had an understanding of real, true and actual that > allowed for all sorts of conceptions including lies, illusions, > contradictory statements, and mere potential states of affairs.  I think the > above does it but would welcome errors being pointed

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Michael J. DeLaurentis
Haven't had the pleasure of Calvino's "Cosmicomics," by I like the antidotal sound of it [cure for hyper-seriousness]. The asymptotic/singularities of beginnings and endings in continuous processes challenge all systems that allow for them, and do make for pretzelian thought-processes. But I note

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
So it would seem, according to Peirce -- at first. But upon reflection, what could that possibly mean? Since it is supposed to be something that comes about only asymptotically, which is to say, not at all, it doesn't seem to make much difference one way or the other, does it? Then, too, ther

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Jim Piat
It is found in "How to Make Our Ideas Clear": The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate, is what we mean by the truth, and the object represented in this opinion is the real. That is the way I would explain reality. CP 5.407 Joe Ransdell Dear Folks, T

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Michael J. DeLaurentis
May be way out of school here, but what is the ultimate fate of "opinion," representation: ultimate merger with what is represented? Isn't all mind evolving toward matter, all sporting ultimately destined to end? -Original Message- From: Joseph Ransdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Th

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Joseph Ransdell
It is found in "How to Make Our Ideas Clear": The opinion which is fated to be ultimately agreed to by all who investigate, is what we mean by the truth, and the object represented in this opinion is the real. That is the way I would explain reality. CP 5.407 Joe Ransdell - Original Mes

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Benjamin Udell
Claudio, Patrick, list, "That object for which truth stands" doesn't sound fully like Peirce. But Peirce did say that truth is of a predicate, proposition, assertion, etc. ; a true predicate corresponds to its object. Inquiry seeks to arrive at true signs about the real. 66~~~ ('A Sketch of Lo

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Claudio Guerri
Patrick, List, Patrick wrote the 28 June: "I like to start out from Peirce's definition of the real as "that object for which truth stands"" I could not find this definition in the CP... could you tell from where you got it? I found this one, closely related: CP 1.339 [...] Finally, the inter

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-29 Thread Arnold Shepperson
Patrick, Jean-Marc, Jerry, Jim, Bill, List J.Ch = Jerry Chandler BB = Bill Bailey J-MO = Jean-Marc Orliaguet AS = Arnold Shepperson The following remarks caught my eye as I read through the exchanges on this thread: J-MO: ... the phenomenological approach which consists in studying how forms can b