[peirce-l] Re: Peirce on personality, individualism and science

2006-10-05 Thread Bill Bailey
Joe, There's never time to say it all, and I often say it sloppy. Bill, you say:BB: Were Arjuna of right mind, he would be dead to self and all earthly cares,his mind clearly fixed on the Absolute.REPLY:JR:But according to my understanding of the Gita the idea is that to be of the right

[peirce-l] Re: Peirce on personality, individualism and science

2006-10-04 Thread Bill Bailey
And if you investigate Mahayana Buddhist texts seriously gary F. :=) Bill Bailey --- Message from peirce-l forum to subscriber archive@mail-archive.com

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamental psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-10-04 Thread Bill Bailey
freedom. To close: I much enjoyed _The Meaning of Things_. Bill Bailey Levi-Strauss argues that there is no real difference in terms of complexity between primitive and scientific thought; he found the primitive's categories and structurings in botany, for example, to be as complex as any

[peirce-l] Re: Peirce on personality, individualism and science

2006-10-03 Thread Bill Bailey
recent inductees/nominees, among them Mother Theresa, Bobby Dylan, Gloria Steinem, Muhammad Ali, and Thich Nhat Hanh. Best, Bill Bailey Bill Bailey Bill, I'm on this list because i read Peirce and take him seriously as a writer whose concepts have some bearing on the conduct of a life -- any life

[peirce-l] Re: Peirce on personality, individualism and science

2006-10-02 Thread Bill Bailey
to be a dark glass. I hope I've made my objection both reasonable and clear because I see nothing left but a piling up of chapter and verse on Hinduism and Buddism, which I'm not going to do. Best, Bill Bailey There's more to say, but this will do for now. As mentioned above, i've collected a few Peirce

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamental psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-10-01 Thread Bill Bailey
Gary: How Emersonian. As I said, I am too ignorant to make pronouncements on Peirce. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Peirce was a man of his times--and that he obviously spent too much time with Emerson's godson. :=) Should you find any Swedenborgian passages in Peirce, please don't

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamental psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-30 Thread Bill Bailey
Gary: This is not the venue for debating the similarities and contrasts between traditional Occident and Orient. I'll respond as briefly as I can, and we can proceed through personal e-mails if you like. First, an agreement: if you abstract all particularity--an example would be Huxley's The

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamental psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-30 Thread Bill Bailey
on the close parallels he finds between Peirce's ideal of scientific method and the bodhisattva ideal of Mahayana Buddhism. As you point out, that is very much on topic. Bill Bailey Bill and Gary, Bill Bailey wrote: This is not the venue for debating the similarities and contrasts between

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamental psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-29 Thread Bill Bailey
onsibility is an act of hubris. Isn't that the message of the Bhagavad Gita?So kill away, oh nobly born, and forget this conscience thing, an obvious lapse into ego. Bill Bailey - Original Message - From: Jim Piat To: Peirce Discussion Forum Sent: Friday, September 29, 2

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamenal psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-25 Thread Bill Bailey
Kristi, Joe, list: The human is a social animal, born into a social group which typically has a full array of habits, customs in place. That strikes me as a given. "We've always done it that way, and that's the way it will be done" seems to me what Peirce is talking about as tenacity

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamenal psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-23 Thread Bill Bailey
inkthe "irrational" in human behavioris seldom the opposite of "rational," but more nearly something like "autistic," "narcissistic," or "egocentric," and as such more nearly the opposite of "social.") Bill Bailey "Joe, I don't understand why yo

[peirce-l] Re: What fundamenal psychological laws is Peirce referring to?

2006-09-22 Thread Bill Bailey
it, then authority is one possible resort. (Leon Festinger's school ofresearch would suggeststill other possibilities of dissonance reduction.) Bill Bailey In "The Fixation of Belief" Peirce says that "a man may go through life, systematically keeping out of view all t

[peirce-l] Re: The composite photograph metaphor

2006-09-03 Thread Bill Bailey
Notebook Joe Ransdell - Original Message - From: Bill Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:40 PM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: The composite photograph metaphor Jim, List: I cannot accept the notions direct acquaintance

[peirce-l] Re: MS 399.663f On the sign as surrogate

2006-07-28 Thread Bill Bailey
Jim, list: I pretty well agree with the following two paragraphs. I'd like to make some friendly amendments, however. I don't think one sign carries more evidential weight than another, but then I'm not clear on what you mean because I don't understand how abstraction is related nor what

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-07-03 Thread Bill Bailey
Patrick, My responses are interspersed below. - Original Message - From: Patrick Coppock [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peirce Discussion Forum peirce-l@lyris.ttu.edu Cc: Bill Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: [peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign

[peirce-l] Re: Entelechy

2006-05-11 Thread Bill Bailey
Joe, Thank you for the below post--which I've cut away all but it's identification. I don't find entelechy of particular interest, but I'm in awe of Peirce's conception of communication and mediation. It's ready to bottle and label. Bill Bailey For the benefit of those who don't have a copy

[peirce-l] Re: Peirce and Prigogine

2006-04-20 Thread Bill Bailey
then that the cause-effect conception is itself the relativity of viewpoint, as are the indeterminancy and relativity conceptions. And so, I had better make peace with my mind. Once done, I slept nights. My ulcers healed. The world was really, actually, truly, patently beautiful. :=) Bill

[peirce-l] Re: Peirce and Prigogine

2006-04-19 Thread Bill Bailey
Ben, I liked your post. In any analysis of process, cause-effect relationships are created by our puctuations--which in turn inevitably result from our local (space and time) interests. Time slices can be so misleading. Watzlawick, Beavin and Jackson (Pragmatics of Human Communication) wrote