[peirce-l] Re: Neuroquantology Journal

2006-07-04 Thread Patrick Coppock
Arnold, list, My apologies: here the Peirce quote from his "coda" to The Basis of Pragmaticism in the Normative Sciences" that I forgot to paste in at the end of my last message, after I wrote This he ends as follows: -- quote Peirce MS 283 - EP2: 396-397 -

[peirce-l] Re: Neuroquantology Journal

2006-07-04 Thread Patrick Coppock
Arnold, thanks for a long and rich respnse. For now I'll just confine myself to resonding to your brief "coda" -- which as any conversational discourse analyst - canonically in this case William Labov - will tell you, is when the speaker - in this case writer AS - tries to connect the possible

[peirce-l] Re: Neuroquantology Journal

2006-07-03 Thread Patrick Coppock
pt the magic of today's emergence and identity theories. Mid 20th century logicians threw the baby out with the bath water by ignoring experience and not taking it seriously as a phenomenon (as Peirce did). Their dismissal of it has left a hole that has been filled by the very same irrati

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-07-03 Thread Patrick Coppock
Thanks Bill for your comments. You wrote: Patrick, I'm don't know what in my post you're replying to. I don't keep my posts, so I can't be sure, but I don't recall mentioning an "expression continuum," "segments" or "meaning continuum." I may have; I sometimes think I only think I know wha

[peirce-l] Re: Neuroquantology Journal

2006-07-02 Thread Patrick Coppock
Hi Steven, You wrote: Koch is fairly religious (Catholic) - and has recently written about his religion on his web site - and without making aspersions upon his integrity I do find that a number of scientists in the field that are prepared to accept such magic are also religious. As a resul

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-07-02 Thread Patrick Coppock
Hi Bill, you wrote: I think it is not very useful to speak of signs as existing in the same process as existential objects, but if we must, perhaps we can say, "Yes, signs exist, but much faster than objects do." Well yes I guess so. The sign function may be construed (rather simplistically

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-07-01 Thread Patrick Coppock
Jerry, thanks for your comments, Sorry for my rather slow reply, but family and some university-political obligations have taken quite a lot of time the last few days. In any case, I can see I'll have my work cut out to be brief in replying to your notes, since brief though they may be, the

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Coppock
At 9:19 -0400 28-06-2006, Jim Piat wrote: In any case, what I'm doing here is asking a question and would love for someone to attempt to sort through how the terms real, existent and true are related. That's the big one Jim! I like to start out from Peirce's definition of the real as "that

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Coppock
Hi Jim, and thanks for your comments. You wrote: At 8:47 -0400 28-06-2006, Jim Piat wrote: Dear Patrick, Folks-- Whitehead, yes -- and also Wittgenstein's notion of family resemblance. Signs, like thought are more or less continuous and resist our attempts to pigeon hole them. OTOH contrasti

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Coppock
Thanks for your comments Arnold, and yes indeed, what Peirce and Whitehead probably have most in common is their respective competencies in mathematics, and the way in which they use these competncies to consolidate and explicate their respective philosophical projects. It's their maths that

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Coppock
ously. I may well be wrong here, of course -- indeed, I haven't been working with Whitehead's ideas so long myself, and trying to see these in relation to those of Peirce is actually quite a daunting task -- so it would be interesting to hear some opinions from other Peirce listers t

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign - help!

2006-06-28 Thread Patrick Coppock
At 0:11 -0400 25-06-2006, Jerry LR Chandler wrote: I will be at the Whitehead Conference in Salzburg next week so I do not anticipate much time for replies. Talking of Whitehead, whose process philosophy, or "philosophy of organism" is surely an interesting and challenging read for any Peirc

[peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign

2006-06-16 Thread Patrick Coppock
Title: [peirce-l] Re: Sinsign, Legisign, Qualisign Ben, I wonder, have you, Gary or any of the others looked at and evaluated any of the potential of the modelling applets mentioned below (this comes from the Digital Peirce online site)? http://www.digitalpeirce.fee.unicamp.br/p-intfar.htm Inte