Section 3.9 of NP brings us one of those Peircean ideas that is startling at
first, but illuminates his whole system of semiotics in the light of
continuity. In this post I'll just give some of the highlights directly from
Frederik's text. By the way, we haven't heard from Frederik for over a week
On Oct 11, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Gary Fuhrman g...@gnusystems.ca wrote:
Section 3.9 of NP brings us one of those Peircean ideas that is startling at
first, but illuminates his whole system of semiotics in the light of
continuity. In this post I’ll just give some of the highlights directly
Dear Garys, lists,
There is certainly no disparaging in Peirce's claim that icons and indices are
degenerate as compared to symbols. The concept comes from mathematics, conic
sections in particular, where figures like hyperbolas and ellipses are
considered non-degenerate while figures like
Dear Gary, lists,
I think Gun country counts as a Dicisign - it makes a pretty straightforward
claim which could be translated into the linguistic utterance like The US is a
gunlike country. Of course, as in many artworks, the dicisign character is
deliberately weakened in order to leave some
Dear Jerry, lists -
I think you are right chemistry played a central role in Peirce's dicisign
conception. He saw both the predicate part and the subject parts as atoms with
valencies which fit each other when forming the molecule of the dicisign. He
even compared the two with halogens and
Dear Ben, lists -
Good summary. I discuss some early arguments by Peirce pertaining to these
distinctions in a later ch. of NP.
Best
F
Den 05/10/2014 kl. 16.19 skrev Benjamin Udell
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Gary F., Tom, lists,
A predicate's denotation can be narrowed (and
Dear Howard, lists,
Very good - what should be added is just that bits are symbols in another sense
than Peirce's sense of symbol.
Maybe we can compare it to the old vocabulary of structural linguistics - words
are made up of units which may be signs (in-flat-ion), but each of these are
made up
Thanks, Ben, for the research!
I know that “Jon was suggesting that Peirce was consciously operating in a
terminological tradition including the fields that we now call probability
theory and statistics, in which Peirce did some important work.” But that seems
to me unlikely in a context
Frederik, lists,
So glad to learn that your health is improved, Frederik. It's terrific
having you active again in the seminar.
Here's a little chart showing the terminological variations Peirce
experimented with on the traditional triad: term/proposition/argument which
I gleaned from NP 3.9.
thanks, that is a helpful overview!
F
Den 11/10/2014 kl. 21.46 skrev Gary Richmond
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Frederik, lists,
So glad to learn that your health is improved, Frederik. It's terrific having
you active again in the seminar.
Here's a little chart
Hi, Gary,
Yes, when Peirce is discussing the idea that Mill meant by 'event', that
won't be the same that Peirce meant by 'event' in his own thinking.
Meanwhile, I did a little more looking around. At the very least, this
sort of thing will help people clarify the terminological tangles that
Lists,
It was pointed out to me off-list that in my final sentence positioned
below the chart I posted today that where I wrote I found the third column
of particular interest, especially his referring to the Rheme as a
'substitutive sign' (or what we'd call today a 'propositional function') I
Good. Brooks exemplifies the mediocre level of the NYT Op Ed effort. Sadly,
friends of mine quote him as their daily dose of wisdom. We have no Peirce,
no Dewey, no Veblen. I still think pragmaticism is the best antidote to the
devolving use of the word pragmatism. In most places these days
Hi! I think, that Mumford, to whom Brooks refers, is quite close to the Isis: Life is not worth fighting for: bare life is worthless. Justice is worth fighting for, order is worth fighting for, culture ... .is worth fighting for: These universal principles and values give purpose and direction to
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