Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-06 Thread Helmut Raulien
Thank you, Kirsti! I do not have time to write it as a scientifical correct book with all relevant literature mentioned (having an idea takes seconds, but comparing it with the most relevant existing texts about the subject has a different time scale) , and in the past it was always so, that

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-06 Thread kirstima
Helmut, Todays systems theories were not known by Peirce. Thus he dis not use the TERM (which is just a name for a theoretical concept) in the sense (meaning) it is used nowadays. I have studied some early cybernetics, then Bertallanffy and Luhman in more detail. But I left keeping up with

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-06 Thread kirstima
Helmut, That is good to know. Thanks. Kirsti Helmut Raulien kirjoitti 5.8.2017 22:09: Kirsti, you wrote: "I find it difficult to answer your questions, Helmut, because I do not have a clear enough idea of what you are aiming at. What is the ground for you interest in CSP? What do you aim to

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-05 Thread Helmut Raulien
Kirsti, you wrote: "I find it difficult to answer your questions, Helmut, because I do not have a clear enough idea of what you are aiming at. What is the ground for you interest in CSP? What do you aim to do with the knowledge and understanding you are after?"   I want to combine CSP with

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-05 Thread kirstima
Helmut Raulien kirjoitti 4.8.2017 21:06: Kirsti, you wrote: "Also, with triads, thinking in "parts" does not do. According to my view, that is. Nor do the idea of "containing"." Instead you wrote about: " Categorical aspects (or perspectives). " But, isn´t this a kind of containing or

Aw: Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-04 Thread Helmut Raulien
Kirsti, you wrote: "Also, with triads, thinking in "parts" does not do. According to my view, that is. Nor do the idea of "containing"."   Instead you wrote about: " Categorical aspects (or perspectives). "   But, isn´t this a kind of containing or composition? Like if you add all aspects or

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-03 Thread Jerry Rhee
Dear list, "In an illuminating image, Aristotle compares the use made by the noetic soul of phantasia to the role of diagrams in geometry: *It is impossible even to think (noein) without a mental picture (phantasmatos). The same affection (pathos) is involved in thinking (noein) as in drawing

RE: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-03 Thread gnox
Helmut, It’s not that complicated. A triad is a set of three — three of anything. A trichotomy is a division of something into three — usually a division of a type into three classes, or subtypes. For example, signs can be subdivided into three classes, in various ways:

Re: Re: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy & Phenomenology

2017-08-03 Thread Jerry Rhee
Helmut, list: You said: “Is "I-think" the same as "consistency"?” To which I would reply: Consider what effects that might *conceivably* have practical bearings you *conceive* the objects of your *conception* to have. Then, your *conception* of those effects is the whole of your