Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-12 Thread Jim Willgoose
, 11 May 2012 20:30:53 -0400 From: bud...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Hi, Jim, Sorry, I'm not following you here. F and a look like logical constants

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Awbrey
Re: Jim Willgoose At: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/8141 JA = Jon Awbrey JW = Jim Willgoose JA: Just to be sure we start out with the same thing in mind, are you talking about the notion of judgment that was represented by the judgment stroke in Frege's

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Jim Willgoose
:14 -0400 From: jawb...@att.net Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Re: Jim Willgoose At: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/8141 JA = Jon Awbrey JW = Jim Willgoose JA: Just to be sure we start out with the same thing

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Jon Awbrey
JW = Jim Willgoose JW: I followed up on two paper suggestions by Irving (Sluga and Van Heijenoort) in the context of the language or calculus topic. With Sluga, I detect the idea that the Begriffsshrift is a universal language because it is meaningful in a way that the Boolean

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Jim Willgoose
of the quantifier, and the confusion that results from a lack of analysis of a judgment and the poverty of symbolism for expressing the results of the analysis. Jim W Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:24:33 -0400 From: bud...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Benjamin Udell
Jon, The way I learned it, (formal) implication is not the /assertion/ but the /validity/ of the (material) conditional, so it's a difference between 1st-order and 2nd-order logic, a difference that Peirce recognized in some form. If the schemata involving p and q are considered to expose

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Benjamin Udell
, and the confusion that results from a lack of analysis of a judgment and the poverty of symbolism for expressing the results of the analysis. Jim W Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 12:24:33 -0400 From: bud...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: [peirce-l

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Benjamin Udell
Sorry, corrections in bold: Jon, The way I learned it, (formal) implication is not the /assertion/ but the /validity/ of the (material) conditional, so it's a difference between 1st-order and 2nd-order logic, a difference that Peirce recognized in some form. If the schemata involving p and

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Jim Willgoose
Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Hi, Jim Thanks, but I'm afraid that a lot of this is over my head. Boolean quantifier 'v' ? Is that basically the backward E? A 'unity' class? Is that a class with just one element

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Benjamin Udell
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:41:32 -0400 From: bud...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Hi, Jim Thanks, but I'm afraid that a lot of this is over my head. Boolean quantifier

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-11 Thread Benjamin Udell
From: bud...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU Hi, Jim, Sorry, I'm not following you here. F and a look like logical constants in the analysis. I don't know how you're using v, and so on. I don't know why there's a question raised about

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-10 Thread Jon Awbrey
JW = Jim Willgoose JW: List, Irving, John et. al., Sluga (Frege against the Booleans; Notre Dame Journal of Formal logic 1987)) places great emphasis upon the priority principle in Frege, which stresses that the judgement is epistemically, ontologically, and methodologically

Re: [peirce-l] Frege against the Booleans

2012-05-10 Thread Jim Willgoose
-l] Frege against the Booleans To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU JW = Jim Willgoose JW: List, Irving, John et. al., Sluga (Frege against the Booleans; Notre Dame Journal of Formal logic 1987)) places great emphasis upon the priority principle in Frege, which stresses