The Straits Times (Singapore), April 13, 2000
Asian recovery gets rosy report from IMF
By Lee Siew Hua, US Correspondent
WASHINGTON -Asia has staged a strong V-shaped rebound powered by a
faster-than-expected spurt of exports -significantly in the electronics
sector that is vital for
When President Clinton called Pacifica Radio's WBAI on election day morning
to shore up the vote for Vice President Al Gore and First Lady Hillary
Clinton, he did not expect to spend 30 minutes defending his
administration's record on the death penalty, the Middle East and racial
profiling, among
Sorry, I don't think you want to listen (and this has been the larger
problem all along) and I'd rather not continue in this tone. Signing off
for now.
PA
Why not be an adult, recognize that there is a big difference between
a Clinton-Gore EPA and a Bush-Cheney EPA, and admit you fucked
Face it: your faction fucked up bigtime. You thought that you could
demonstrate the mass voting power of the American left without
swinging the election to the right-wing candidate.
...and there's no contradition stating that Nader had every right to
stay 'till the end (and to have
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The Administration signaled its willingness to resurrect an agreement on the
fiscal year 2001 spending bill covering the departments of Labor, Health and
Human Services, and Education (H.R. 4577) when Congress returns the week of
November 13 for a
G'day Ricardo,
You point out:
...and there's no contradition stating that Nader had every right to
stay 'till the end (and to have participated in the debates) and
concluding, if only at the last minute, that since Nader's campaign
was going nowhere, and since the Gore-Bush campaign was so
To demonstrate your immense weakness and inability to mobilize voters
while at the same time working against your own substantive political
positions is the biggest display of political incompetence I have
seen this fall, save for the way that Al Gore has run his campaign...
Bollocks, Brad.
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ECONOMIC INDICATORS" includes the names, dates of release, and the release
times for each scheduled BLS news release over the coming year.
__The nation's private industry
In Missouri, the former governor, Carnahan, ran for Senate but was killed in
a plane crash. It was too late to remove his name from the ballot. He was
elected. In the Canadian Senate no one would probably notice if an older
embalmed male occupied a seat in the Senate but I gather that in the US
We could go round and round about
mistakes/miscalculations/betrayal but not much is
served by that.
More important is, what is next for the Greens? If
the election goes to Bush, as seems most likely,
then what will the attitudes be of those who were
on the fence between Gore and Nader? Will they
Brad,
I'm going to repeat my comments to Michael
Perelman earlier. I suspect that a Bush-Cheney
EPA will not be all that much worse than a Gore-
Lieberman one, although probably marginally so.
If Gore wins, he will be busy trying to prove he is
not too radical of an environmentalist,
BDLIf you think there's no difference between a Clinton-Gore EPA and a
Bush-Cheny EPA you need to have your brain overhauled.
Why is it that the people who claim to care the most about issues so
often turn out to care the least about them?
Brad DeLong
*
Why has the air in the
When's the last time a major U.S. economics department hired a
seriously left-of-center economist? Where in general do younger left
economists find employment (if at all)?
Doug
Depending how you are defining "left", we hired two political economists
this past year. Of course ours is not a "major economics" school, we are
an interdisciplinary liberal studies program. The job announcement
attracted a large pool of "left" leaning economists for sure.
Doug,
You would probably have to go back to the 1970s.
I am thinking of Yale's hiring of David Levine. But
then he did not get tenure. Don't know of any since
him at a "major department," although that may depend
on how you define "major."
There are a handful of Ph.D. granting econ
The other day, as I sat in my office unable to write, read or do
anything, I saw R.H Tawney's 1912 classic, *The Agrarian Problem
in the Sixteenth Century*, staring at me from a pile of books in the
corner floor of my office. I bought this book three years ago and
knew I would read it at
FYI. From a friend of mine with the Gore campaign,
assuming I have any friends who work for Gore. Sorry
for attachments but there is no other way to send this.
It's probably on their web site, if you don't get these
cleanly.
mbs
As you probably know, the ballots were misprinted in Palm Beach
Reasons to be glad, in response to all posts on the election.
Note that these do not include, that the Repubs won the WH,
or that they retained control of Congress.
1. Public opinion in the country is not moving to the right. Nader plus
Gore beat Bush; even Gore alone beat Bush. The
Right. If you don't count any of the major heterodox depts as "major" then that
is one problem, and then there is how you define left. But there is no doubt
that economics tends to be very conservative and not open to alternative views
(such as Marxism) so you have the problem. Even some of the
At 08:38 AM 11/8/00 -0800, you wrote:
Will the Demos, if Bush is elected, shift slightly
to the left to get the Greenish vote or will they
shift slightly to the right hoping to win by
becoming (more so) the left wing of the Repubs? It
seems to me that a rightward shift is more likely
for the
At 02:32 PM 11/8/00 -0500, you wrote: After her interview with Clinton
(which aired this a.m. on WPFW), Amy Goodman is now bullet-proof.
what does this mean?
and: A semi-conscious left could put Bush on the hook for the drop in
employment that is possible over the next year, thanks to his
As penners relax in front of their TVs anxiously waiting for the
election results on the two undifferentiated candidates, I thought I
take the opportunity to state that it was really the freeholders and
the well-to-do copyholders who promoted the changes in tenures,
property rights and class
Good questions. Nice platonic method.
CB
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/00 01:34PM
The other day, as I sat in my office unable to write, read or do
anything, I saw R.H Tawney's 1912 classic, *The Agrarian Problem
in the Sixteenth Century*, staring at me from a pile of books in the
corner floor of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/00 09:34AM
the biggest display of political incompetence I have
seen this fall, save for the way that Al Gore has run his campaign...
(
CB: Do you think Gore should have stuck with the one what brought him to the dance,
Clinton ?
Here's Marx giving support to my "platonic" question:
Logically, leaseholds could have been imposed on
"customary" peasants, if we say that their land was taken away
from them and enclosed; but were they the ones who rented the
land taken from them?
"The plebians of ancient Rome were
For me, the important question here is the ability of left/heterodox economics to
reproduce
itself. I do not worship the major departments, but they are instrumental to the
creation
of future generations of economists.
Peter
Anthony DCosta wrote:
Depending how you are defining "left", we
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/00 03:19PM
As penners relax in front of their TVs anxiously waiting for the
election results on the two undifferentiated candidates, I thought I
take the opportunity to state that it was really the freeholders and
the well-to-do copyholders who promoted the changes
At 12:19 PM 11/8/00 -0800, you wrote:
This is a classic case of voting for the lesser evil...
I am hoping that the Rolling Stones will come out with a new version of
their "start me up" song, changing the lyrics to "you could make a dead man
Senator." (Of course, they seem pretty dead
At 02:32 PM 11/8/00 -0500, you wrote: After her interview with Clinton
(which aired this a.m. on WPFW), Amy Goodman is now bullet-proof.
what does this mean?
[mbs] It should be harder for Pacifica to discipline or dismiss
Goodman after her coup of an interview, where she got
Clinton agitated,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/00 03:43PM
Here's Marx giving support to my "platonic" question:
(((
CB: Sorry, I mean lawyerly cross examination.
Logically, leaseholds could have been imposed on
"customary" peasants, if we say that their land was taken away
from them and
Max Sawicky wrote:
At 02:32 PM 11/8/00 -0500, you wrote: After her interview with Clinton
(which aired this a.m. on WPFW), Amy Goodman is now bullet-proof.
what does this mean?
[mbs] It should be harder for Pacifica to discipline or dismiss
Goodman after her coup of an interview, where she got
Brad,
I'm going to repeat my comments to Michael
Perelman earlier. I suspect that a Bush-Cheney
EPA will not be all that much worse than a Gore-
Lieberman one, although probably marginally so.
"Perhaps"? "Perhaps"?
And as I said, if you think the issues are important, then marginal
CB: How did the prosperous farmers accumulate their wealth ? In what form ?
It is interesting Tawney's observation "that where tenants
themselves had from *an early date* substituted enclosed for open
field husbandry, as apparently they had in Kent, Essex, Cornwall,
and parts of
FYI. From a friend of mine with the Gore campaign,
assuming I have any friends who work for Gore. Sorry
for attachments but there is no other way to send this.
It's probably on their web site, if you don't get these
cleanly.
mbs
As you probably know, the ballots were misprinted in Palm Beach
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/08/00 09:34AM
the biggest display of political incompetence I have
seen this fall, save for the way that Al Gore has run his campaign...
(
CB: Do you think Gore should have stuck with the one what brought
him to the dance, Clinton ?
No. I think he should
"-- Cantwell wins in Washington, Senate now stands tied 50-50. "
One thing is now clear: Joe Lieberman is *not* going to be Vice
President no matter how Florida turns out...
Brad DeLong
Apologies for my inadvertant duplication of these documents Max sent in
previous message. This is obvioulsy getting around fast.
Thad
At 02:25 PM 11/8/00 -0500, Max Sawicky wrote:
FYI. From a friend of mine with the Gore campaign,
assuming I have any friends who work for Gore. Sorry
for
Brad writes:
One thing is now clear: Joe Lieberman is *not* going to be Vice President
no matter how Florida turns out...
does this mean that if Gore loses Florida, Lieberman will resign as Veep so
that he can keep his Senate seat (which I presume he won)? Wouldn't that be
"bait and switch,"
Brad,
There's no place here for calling people incompetent. I voted for
Nader. I would not have changed my vote even if it could've been
decisive for electing Gore. I believe in the cold shower. You don't.
That's no reason to be nasty toward other people.
And I'm not looking forward to four
Hah? How does that happen? Who is the new VP?
Martin Peretz?
mbs
"-- Cantwell wins in Washington, Senate now stands tied 50-50. "
One thing is now clear: Joe Lieberman is *not* going to be Vice
President no matter how Florida turns out...
Brad DeLong
I know they are close to the same, but how many newscasters and analysts in the
last 20 hours did you hear say "Bush" when they meant "Gore" and verse vice-a?
Now even Jim D. is doing it. Or he meant to say "win" instead of lose? Or I am
losing it...
-Original Message-
From: Jim Devine
Michael Perelman wrote:
How could a decent Democratic candidate not win with the economy going
relatively well and no big international problems against such an inept
rival?
The left simply has to wean itself from *any* attraction to the Democratic
Party. I wouldn't vote for myself on a
Mat writes:
I know they are close to the same, but how many newscasters and analysts
in the
last 20 hours did you hear say "Bush" when they meant "Gore" and verse vice-a?
Now even Jim D. is doing it. Or he meant to say "win" instead of lose? Or I am
losing it...
I'm the one who's losing it. I
"The United States, such a vocal advocate of multi-party systems, has
two parties that are so perfectly similar in their methods, objectives and
goals that they have practically created the most perfect one-party system
in the world."
The logical conclusion of this, following the election, is
Burford:
Bush has ditched Gingrich style confrontation, shifted to a Third Way type
of middle position, called "compassionate conservativism", and is quite
capable of working with Democrats temperamentally.
http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk/US_election_race/Story/0,2763,393863,00.h
tml
Manson is a convicted felon, so he can't vote. But the constitutional
qualifications for the Presidency are quite clear: you have to be 35 and
born in this country. I am pretty sure Manson meets these qualifications.
His ineligibility for the ballot does not mean he couldn't be a candidate.
Myron Magnet is cut from similar cloth as Olasky. The conservative prophet
sports big Dickensian bushy whiskers (apparently inspired by a stay at
Cambridge University), and a Victorian philosophy to match.
As a Cantabridgean (Kings '82), I take exception to this characterization.
Oxford is the
Before commentators on the US election in Britain became mesmerised by the
arithmetical excitements of the cliff-hanger, one of the most interesting
comments was that Gore had blown his chances by abandoning the Third Way
approach of the New Democrats. He had apparently reverted to the jarring
Burford:
Although Trades Unions are not able to dominate industries as they used to,
with new technology, there seemed to be an interesting story about how they
were using e-mail to telephone lists of union members automatically to urge
them to vote. Not class warfare as we used to conceive
In his series of pro-Gore flames [*], Brad wrote:
If you think there's no difference between a Clinton-Gore EPA and a
Bush-Cheny EPA you need to have your brain overhauled.
One nice thing about the US election being over (and I really, really wish
it were) is that we won't have to read or
didn't Arianna Huffington used to talk about "compassionate conservatism"
(before she turned aristocratic populist)?
At 07:19 PM 11/08/2000 -0500, you wrote:
Bush's favourite slogan "compassionate conservatism" is no empty jingle -
it is actually borrowed from a body of work by a pair of
It was a wonderful post!
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One of my colleagues refers to this as Shrodinger's election...
Peter
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Gene Debs ran as a felon.
Justin Schwartz wrote:
Manson is a convicted felon, so he can't vote. But the constitutional
qualifications for the Presidency are quite clear: you have to be 35 and
born in this country. I am pretty sure Manson meets these qualifications.
His ineligibility for the
A couple of points on this:
Not to mystify the numbers, but this election tracks fairly closely with
political realignments and 36 year election cycles (1860--Lincoln and the rise
of the Republican party; 1896 defeat of the populist movement and subsequent
dominance of the Republican party;
thanks. mbs
It was a wonderful post!
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Devine" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's not enough that the two-party machine has all the
money at its disposal and all the press and media, too. It still needs
courageous volunteers to ram its message home. These unctuous surrogates
seek to persuade us that,
One of my colleagues refers to this as Shrodinger's election...
Peter
***
Maybe Daniel Lazare is/was onto something and the Constitution is capable of
generating a Godelian moment?
Ian
Nader and his supporters had the power to throw the election to
Bush. That
is very real power. I have frankly urged that since the Greens have
exercised that power, they should now take advantage of it to promote a
radical change in the electoral college in favor of ranked voting
or
Brad, maybe you could tell us about the paper that you're going to be
delivering in Berkeley this week.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SUVs? The fact that the American Petroleum Institute ate Gore for
lunch in the fight over the BTU tax in 1993?
You can say that Gore didn't try hard enough for taxes on emissions.
But you can't say that he didn't try. And you can't blame dirtier air
in Portland-Seattle over the past eight
I am listening to the Clinton interview. He is a marvel as a
politician. He also really seems to enjoy the competition in jousting
with Amy. The only problem is that she does not follow up the
questions, but moves on to other subjects after Clinton answers.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics
Brad, I have no objection to calling someone off the list, whether it be
Nader or Gore. I do object to you or anybody else is being antagonistic to
people on the list.
Brad DeLong wrote:
Brad,
There's no place here for calling people
[I should have added "on the list" here]
BDLThe political naivete of people who think that the White House is
some kind of dictatorial center of power continues to astonish me.
BDLAnd in the process he has thrown the election to the right-wing
candidate, with important differences over the next four years for
the Supreme Court... the
Nathan:
The continual evasion by Nader and other Green supporters for the results of
their leadership and actions is incredibly distressing on that point. I far
prefer Carroll forthright joy in undercutting Gore -- at least that is taking
responsibility that others can evaluate and decide is
At 20:04 08/11/00 -0500, Proyect wrote:
Burford:
Although Trades Unions are not able to dominate industries as they used to,
with new technology, there seemed to be an interesting story about how they
were using e-mail to telephone lists of union members automatically to urge
them to vote.
At 19:19 08/11/00 -0500, Proyect wrote:
Burford:
Bush has ditched Gingrich style confrontation, shifted to a Third Way type
of middle position, called "compassionate conservativism", and is quite
capable of working with Democrats temperamentally.
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