Dear Cdes. and friends,
Here is a personal translation of a short article by Carlos Chagas
that has been published on a mainstream Brazilian newspaper, the
_Tribuna da Imprensa_.
What is now so startling for the Brazilian _establishment_ (the
_Tribuna_ is not precisely a progressive
Michael Perelman said on 10/27/00 6:21 PM
We have a job announcement coming out in a few weeks also. Just like
Portland State, we are demanding -- unrealistically perhaps -- that the new
applicants have the ability to raise money through grants. It's all part of
the new emphasis on making the
By the way, does anyone know of some interesting reading stuff
explaining why didn't Brazil generate its own "breeding states" while
the USA did?
A hug,
NĂ©stor Miguel Gorojovsky
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G'day Penpals,
Haven't read the particular EMW book in question, but ...
Sez Ricardo:
Right. Wood would call those Italian "bourgeois", not capitalists.
Myself am not convinced by Wood's facile definition of mercantile
wealth as mere "buying cheap and selling dear". Here's the proud
Italian
Hi again,
Speculates Paul, most intriguingly:
Indeed, early capital
accumulation (I argue until after the 1st WW) was from unequal
exchange between the commercial/transportation sector which
used its monopoly power to extract surplus from the primary
producer, not from appropropriated
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Hi Lou:
Yoshie:
Lou says there are merely a few sentences on slavery in Wood's book
on the origins of capitalism. There usually is _zero_ sentence on
gender in a serious Marxist scholar's serious discussion (clip)
LP: This is a bogus argument.
Why so? While I don't agree with Maria Mies
Michael Perelman wrote,
Regarding Martin's question about the nature of University employment.
John Stuart Mill: "The proper function of an University (is) not ... to
teach the knowledge required to fit men for some special mode of gaining
their livelihood. . .
I think it might be useful
Rob Schaap said on 10/28/00 7:33 AM
G'day Penpals,
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And all this before (as is only right for a materialist, whose first duty
to himself is to avoid being tarred with the Weberian brush) we get a
volatile
but productive engagement of protestant spirits (the English reformationist
Timework Web said on 10/28/00 10:10 AM
I think it might be useful to think of the university today as a
"pageant", not unlike one of those "colonial Williamsburg" re-enactments
for the tourists. The success of the performance is not necessarily
related to its verisimilitude -- although
Louis Proyect wrote:
Yoshie:
Lou says there are merely a few sentences on slavery in Wood's book
on the origins of capitalism. There usually is _zero_ sentence on
gender in a serious Marxist scholar's serious discussion (clip)
LP: This is a bogus argument.
Why so? While I don't agree with
What a nice image!
Timework Web wrote:
The university today differs from the business enterprise in more or less
the same way that colonial Williamsburg differs from Disneyland.
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Once again I'm mystified by this thread. This time, I don't
understand why (allegedly) overlooking slavery is an intellectual
crime, but complaining about the absence of gender is "bogus."
Mr Grouchy, ABD
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LP: This is not about overlooking. As I have already stated
on three different
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LP: This is a bogus argument. We are not dealing with neglect or inattention. We are
dealing with a theoretical stance that says capitalist originated in 15th century
England as a result of changes in the way surplus was collected from farmers:
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At 11:27 AM 10/28/2000 -0800, you wrote:
How (or do) the characters in watterson's "calvin and hobbes" reflect the
characters and/or philosophy of their respective namesakes?
more importantly, why do large numbers of vehicles in Southern California
(and perhaps in the civilized world) have
At 12:54 PM 10/28/2000 -0700, you wrote:
What a nice image!
Timework Web wrote:
The university today differs from the business enterprise in more or less
the same way that colonial Williamsburg differs from Disneyland.
it's a nice image, but not always true. I know for a fact that a
CB: And since several of the people discussing this are Marxists ,
why is it that not one person that I can find so far has commented
on what Marx said directly on the issues in question?
Hi Charles:
Look into the PEN-L archive or your In Box and find the following post of mine:
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Jim Devine wrote:
it's a nice image, but not always true. I know for a fact that a
university run by Jesuit sensibilities is not like a business
enterprise in many ways.
So is it like the Catholic Church? The ivory tower of legend? What?
Doug
Louis Proyect said on 10/28/00 12:42 PM
LP: This is not about overlooking. As I have already stated
on three different occasions, the problem is how slavery
is viewed theoretically. Brenner and Wood break with the
Eric Williams analysis. The paucity of references to slavery
in her book is not
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One personal issue here. I thought that Charles said that you cannot
have capitalism without slavery. Marx and Engels in some of their
stagist writings suggested that slavery existed before feudalism, but I
don't see why capitalism could not have formed
Martin Schiller:
What about in non-capitalist cultures? Like huntergather intertribal
warfare where slaves are taken? Do you define slavery by (the name of)
the culture that contains that activity? Or is slavery a continuous
evolving thread of human activity that deserves consideration in that
Jim Devine said on 10/28/00 1:18 PM
more importantly, why do large numbers of vehicles in Southern California
(and perhaps in the civilized world) have window-stickers showing Calvin
pissing on various targets like Ford Motor Co or Al Gore? (There's one
where Calvin has a halo and is pissing
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I deny it also (as you can see from my post). The Arab slave trade
in the 10th century, extensive as it was, *neither was capitalist nor
gave rise to capitalism*. So it follows logically that the existence
of slavery and the slave trade _alone_ cannot
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Charles wrote:
Marx specifically talks about capital, not "the capitalist system". He
says nothing that would contradict the fact that capital or
wage-labor/capital is combined in a system with slave bondage. The
capitalists need only some doubly free ;
While I do not deny the importance of understanding the past, this list
spends relatively little time in understanding the present. For
example, a couple of days ago, the progressive Clinton administration
announced a revolutionary new copyright decision. Many of us rely, even
in discussing
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CB: And since several of the people discussing this are Marxists ,
why is it that not one person that I can find so far has commented
on what Marx said directly on the issues in question?
Hi Charles:
Look into the PEN-L archive or your In Box and find
actually, since Watterson was a poli-sci major as an undergrad at Kenyon,
the choice of Calvin Hobbs seems pretty self-evident. As for the decals,
it's too many chocolate frosted sugar bombs eaten by intellectual property
pirates.
Ann Li
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ann li said on 10/28/00 4:15 PM
since Watterson was a poli-sci major as an undergrad at Kenyon,
the choice of Calvin Hobbs seems pretty self-evident
Sorry if I'm seeming dense, but I don't see them as names pulled from a
hat, even if it's a poli-sci hat. I sense a purpose that isn't clear to
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In Belgrade, the price of one liter of oil had jumped from 15 to 51 dinars,
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Hello all--
I hope you all are doing well.
We are in the final stages of planning the 7th Annual Ohio Prison
Activist conference, which begins in less than two weeks. On
Friday, the 10th, there
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