Internationalization of Amazonia, again

2000-10-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear Cdes. and friends, Here is a personal translation of a short article by Carlos Chagas that has been published on a mainstream Brazilian newspaper, the _Tribuna da Imprensa_. What is now so startling for the Brazilian _establishment_ (the _Tribuna_ is not precisely a progressive

Re: job opening

2000-10-28 Thread martin schiller
Michael Perelman said on 10/27/00 6:21 PM We have a job announcement coming out in a few weeks also. Just like Portland State, we are demanding -- unrealistically perhaps -- that the new applicants have the ability to raise money through grants. It's all part of the new emphasis on making the

Re: Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re: Capitalism as slavery

2000-10-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
By the way, does anyone know of some interesting reading stuff explaining why didn't Brazil generate its own "breeding states" while the USA did? A hug, NĂ©stor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: E.Wood's defence of Brenner

2000-10-28 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Penpals, Haven't read the particular EMW book in question, but ... Sez Ricardo: Right. Wood would call those Italian "bourgeois", not capitalists. Myself am not convinced by Wood's facile definition of mercantile wealth as mere "buying cheap and selling dear". Here's the proud Italian

Re: Re: Re: incomplete abstraction vs. empiricism

2000-10-28 Thread Rob Schaap
Hi again, Speculates Paul, most intriguingly: Indeed, early capital accumulation (I argue until after the 1st WW) was from unequal exchange between the commercial/transportation sector which used its monopoly power to extract surplus from the primary producer, not from appropropriated

Fwd: Can Humanity Free Itself from Global Capitalism?

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
- Original Message - From: Anne J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2000 5:34 PM Subject: Can Humanity Free Itself from Global Capitalism? You are invited to a series of four discussions on * CAN HUMANITY FREE ITSELF FROM

Stop Biopiracy in Mexico

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
From: "Mexico Solidarity Network" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stop Biopiracy in Mexico Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 11:34:34 -0500 This message forwarded as a service of the Mexico Solidarity Network Tel: 773-583-7728 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Stop Biopiracy in Mexico!"

Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re: Capitalism as slav

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Hi Lou: Yoshie: Lou says there are merely a few sentences on slavery in Wood's book on the origins of capitalism. There usually is _zero_ sentence on gender in a serious Marxist scholar's serious discussion (clip) LP: This is a bogus argument. Why so? While I don't agree with Maria Mies

Re: What is a university?

2000-10-28 Thread Timework Web
Michael Perelman wrote, Regarding Martin's question about the nature of University employment. John Stuart Mill: "The proper function of an University (is) not ... to teach the knowledge required to fit men for some special mode of gaining their livelihood. . . I think it might be useful

Re: E.Wood's defence of Brenner

2000-10-28 Thread martin schiller
Rob Schaap said on 10/28/00 7:33 AM G'day Penpals, snipped And all this before (as is only right for a materialist, whose first duty to himself is to avoid being tarred with the Weberian brush) we get a volatile but productive engagement of protestant spirits (the English reformationist

Re: Re: What is a university?

2000-10-28 Thread martin schiller
Timework Web said on 10/28/00 10:10 AM I think it might be useful to think of the university today as a "pageant", not unlike one of those "colonial Williamsburg" re-enactments for the tourists. The success of the performance is not necessarily related to its verisimilitude -- although

Re: RE: Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (wasRe: Capitalism as slav

2000-10-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: Yoshie: Lou says there are merely a few sentences on slavery in Wood's book on the origins of capitalism. There usually is _zero_ sentence on gender in a serious Marxist scholar's serious discussion (clip) LP: This is a bogus argument. Why so? While I don't agree with

Re: Re: What is a university?

2000-10-28 Thread Michael Perelman
What a nice image! Timework Web wrote: The university today differs from the business enterprise in more or less the same way that colonial Williamsburg differs from Disneyland. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail

RE: Re: RE: Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re: Capitalism

2000-10-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Once again I'm mystified by this thread. This time, I don't understand why (allegedly) overlooking slavery is an intellectual crime, but complaining about the absence of gender is "bogus." Mr Grouchy, ABD === LP: This is not about overlooking. As I have already stated on three different

RE: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re:Capitalism as slavery

2000-10-28 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/00 08:31PM LP: This is a bogus argument. We are not dealing with neglect or inattention. We are dealing with a theoretical stance that says capitalist originated in 15th century England as a result of changes in the way surplus was collected from farmers:

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2000-10-28 Thread Paul Kneisel
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Calvin Hobbes

2000-10-28 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:27 AM 10/28/2000 -0800, you wrote: How (or do) the characters in watterson's "calvin and hobbes" reflect the characters and/or philosophy of their respective namesakes? more importantly, why do large numbers of vehicles in Southern California (and perhaps in the civilized world) have

Re: Re: Re: What is a university?

2000-10-28 Thread Jim Devine
At 12:54 PM 10/28/2000 -0700, you wrote: What a nice image! Timework Web wrote: The university today differs from the business enterprise in more or less the same way that colonial Williamsburg differs from Disneyland. it's a nice image, but not always true. I know for a fact that a

Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re:Capitalism asslavery

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
CB: And since several of the people discussing this are Marxists , why is it that not one person that I can find so far has commented on what Marx said directly on the issues in question? Hi Charles: Look into the PEN-L archive or your In Box and find the following post of mine: *

Re: Re: Re: Re: What is a university?

2000-10-28 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: it's a nice image, but not always true. I know for a fact that a university run by Jesuit sensibilities is not like a business enterprise in many ways. So is it like the Catholic Church? The ivory tower of legend? What? Doug

Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re: Capitalism

2000-10-28 Thread martin schiller
Louis Proyect said on 10/28/00 12:42 PM LP: This is not about overlooking. As I have already stated on three different occasions, the problem is how slavery is viewed theoretically. Brenner and Wood break with the Eric Williams analysis. The paucity of references to slavery in her book is not

Re: ground rules for debating slavery

2000-10-28 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/00 11:45AM One personal issue here. I thought that Charles said that you cannot have capitalism without slavery. Marx and Engels in some of their stagist writings suggested that slavery existed before feudalism, but I don't see why capitalism could not have formed

RE: Re: Women the Origins of Capitalism (was Re: Capitalism

2000-10-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Martin Schiller: What about in non-capitalist cultures? Like huntergather intertribal warfare where slaves are taken? Do you define slavery by (the name of) the culture that contains that activity? Or is slavery a continuous evolving thread of human activity that deserves consideration in that

Re: Calvin Hobbes

2000-10-28 Thread martin schiller
Jim Devine said on 10/28/00 1:18 PM more importantly, why do large numbers of vehicles in Southern California (and perhaps in the civilized world) have window-stickers showing Calvin pissing on various targets like Ford Motor Co or Al Gore? (There's one where Calvin has a halo and is pissing

Re: Capitalism as slavery and colonialism

2000-10-28 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/00 06:31PM I deny it also (as you can see from my post). The Arab slave trade in the 10th century, extensive as it was, *neither was capitalist nor gave rise to capitalism*. So it follows logically that the existence of slavery and the slave trade _alone_ cannot

Capitalism = wage-labor + oppressed-labor

2000-10-28 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/27/00 04:47PM Charles wrote: Marx specifically talks about capital, not "the capitalist system". He says nothing that would contradict the fact that capital or wage-labor/capital is combined in a system with slave bondage. The capitalists need only some doubly free ;

Let's Get Serious Again

2000-10-28 Thread Michael Perelman
While I do not deny the importance of understanding the past, this list spends relatively little time in understanding the present. For example, a couple of days ago, the progressive Clinton administration announced a revolutionary new copyright decision. Many of us rely, even in discussing

Capitalism = wage-labor + oppressed labor

2000-10-28 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/28/00 05:20PM CB: And since several of the people discussing this are Marxists , why is it that not one person that I can find so far has commented on what Marx said directly on the issues in question? Hi Charles: Look into the PEN-L archive or your In Box and find

Re: Re: Calvin Hobbes

2000-10-28 Thread ann li
actually, since Watterson was a poli-sci major as an undergrad at Kenyon, the choice of Calvin Hobbs seems pretty self-evident. As for the decals, it's too many chocolate frosted sugar bombs eaten by intellectual property pirates. Ann Li - Original Message - From: "martin schiller"

Getting serious re: Calvin Hobbes

2000-10-28 Thread martin schiller
ann li said on 10/28/00 4:15 PM since Watterson was a poli-sci major as an undergrad at Kenyon, the choice of Calvin Hobbs seems pretty self-evident Sorry if I'm seeming dense, but I don't see them as names pulled from a hat, even if it's a poli-sci hat. I sense a purpose that isn't clear to

no subject

2000-10-28 Thread Doyle Saylor
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Moments of Shocked Silence About Biotech

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 23:49:58 -0700 From: MichaelP [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Connie Fogal [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Subject: Moments of Shocked Silence About Biotech http://iisd.ca/pcdf/meadows/trinity.html Donella Meadows' The Global Citizen*, March 16, 2000 * A bi-weekly column by Donella H.

In Belgrade, Oil Jumped from 15 to 51 Dinars

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Sender: Forum on Labor in the Global Economy [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN BELGRADE, OIL JUMPED FROM 15 TO 51 DINARS "Democracy" will not fill all pockets In Belgrade, the price of one liter of oil had jumped from 15 to 51 dinars, price of bread from 6 to 14 and of sugar from 6 to 45. "Democratic

7th Annual Ohio Prison Activist Conference

2000-10-28 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:37:55 -0400 From: Kyoko Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Student meeting Hello all-- I hope you all are doing well. We are in the final stages of planning the 7th Annual Ohio Prison Activist conference, which begins in less than two weeks. On Friday, the 10th, there