Can you hear Marx tittering in Highgate?
If only socialists had studied Marx properly, they would have known all
along that capitalism would triumph. Meghnad Desai gets behind the slogans
in Marx's Revenge
Faisal Islam
Sunday May 19, 2002
The Observer
Marx's Revenge
Meghnad Desai
Verso £19,
On 2002.05.22 09:05 PM, "Louis Proyect" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you hear Marx tittering in Highgate?
If only socialists had studied Marx properly, they would have known all
along that capitalism would triumph. Meghnad Desai gets behind the slogans
in Marx's Revenge
Faisal Islam
Dear Colleague,
A second reminder regarding the call for papers for the ICAPE Conference, THE FUTURE
OF HETERODOX ECONOMICS. This conference will the leading edge of heterodox
economics--so if you want to be on the leading edge have something to say with regard
to heterodox economic
At 20/05/02 18:01 -0700, Jim Devine quoted Louis Proyect
On Mon, 20 May 2002 22:32:27 +0100, Chris Burford wrote:
If once the United States personified the
future, increasingly the EU is demonstrating how
inter-dependence can be managed and nurtured.
LP: This must be some kind of joke.
Southern Africa faces worst hunger crisis in 10 years
Tuesday May 21, 12:00 PM
Southern Africa faces the worst conditions for famine and disease in 10
years. Bad weather, poverty and political violence have led world agencies
to warn that more than five million Africans are on the brink of
May 4, 2001 - With southern Africa facing its worst food shortages in a
decade, WFP is gearing up for a massive humanitarian operation to feed
millions of people across the region.
Drought, floods, economic instability and HIV/AIDS is threatening the food
security of millions of people
[was: RE: [PEN-L:26169] Re: Re: RE: RE: Lies, damned lies, and economics]
Michael Perelman: I might have added Phil Mirowski as an excellent writer,
although he does not usually write for an popular audience.
Among good leftist economics writers, we should mention such authors as
those
G'day Diane,
Timely article, comrad; this is going to be very big, I'm afraid. I do
note though that the otherwise worthy article appended fails to remind
us that in both Malawi and Zimbabwe (and probably others - I just don't
know about those) the IMF is at the root of it. And directly.
But of course Chris did not write the words attributed to him, as the
thread title and his preamble showed.
The failure to show respect to the opposing argument and actually deal with it,
but to dismiss the individual with disrepect, is symptomatic of this approach to
marxism.
Onya,
Ian:What does it mean to say that economists deliberately *lie* in a world
where the relation of theories and evidences is one/many of
underdetermination?
What do you think abstraction is?
That's Nancy Cartwright's thesis in How the Laws of Physics Lie. But
seriously, I meant a much more
Doug does not belong on the list. He is not and has never been an
economist. Sure, he can write now, but what about after a deadening 7
years as an econ. grad student. His training in English does not count.
No fair, Jim.
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 07:58:05AM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
those
The racist expansionist Mayor of Jerusalem Ehud Olmert (who,
according to the New York Times, called Palestinian homes a cancer
and a plague, to be demolished when necessary,
http://college4.nytimes.com/guests/articles/2001/07/10/856050.xml)
will be speaking at the Wexner Center (OSU Campus
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San Francisco City College
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Dear Friends:
Greetings
Thanks for the good press (I'm one of the editors at DS). In addition to
Frank Ackerman, who was one of the founders of the magazine (and remains a
friend), economists like Ellen Frank, John Miller, Chris Tilly, and Arthur
MacEwan write for the magazine regularly, and in a way that's useful for a
comments from a non-economist:
someone already mentioned the general writings of galbraith and also
said favourable things about krugman. for someone like me, with no
training at all in economics, krugman is indeed very readable. any
thoughts about the writings of amartya sen? rajani kanth? i
I don't remember when the famous chapter 5 debate occurred. It was quite a
while ago (1992? 1994?) and I couldn't find it in the pen-l archive. (Gil
had an article based on it in SCIENCE SOCIETY a couple of years ago; my
article in Bill Dugger's book INEQUALITY (Greenwood: 1996) was based on
In a message dated 5/21/02 11:10:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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Sent: 21 May 2002 18:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:26130] Re: Re: gould dies at 60
(Thus water after it is heated up gradually,
In case anyone is interested, I've pasted a copy of my article from Bill
Dugger's book below. It's not exactly the same as the one that Bill
published.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
Taxation without Representation:
A
The problem is much worse than lying economists. Economists believe
what they say.
Would a biology or other science teacher start with teaching Creationism
and then critiquing it around the edges by pointing out some counter
evidence? It seems to me that anyone teaching micro is doing that ---
At 02:22 p.m. 21/05/02 -0700, you wrote:
I am an American Literature professor at the University of Wisconsin,
Madison. I'm currently at work on a book about American fiction and
financial panics between 1880 and 1913 (a revision of my Berkeley
dissertation). At the moment, I'm examining the
Eugene Coyle writes:
The problem is much worse than lying economists. Economists believe what
they say.
right.
Would a biology or other science teacher start with teaching Creationism
and then critiquing it around the edges by pointing out some counter
evidence? It seems to me that anyone
Michael Perelman wrote:
Doug does not belong on the list. He is not and has never been an
economist. Sure, he can write now, but what about after a deadening 7
years as an econ. grad student.
Thanks for the clarification (and the kind words, Jim).
But Krugman can write, even if he's less
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Friday, June 14
Protest Bush at OSU Commencement!
7 AM, Jesse Owens Plaza @ the Ohio Stadium, the
Alejandro Reuss wrote:
Thanks for the good press (I'm one of the editors at DS).
Is Michael Mandel, now at Business Week, a DS alum (Dollars Sense,
that is, not dominance submission)?
Doug
The strange world of Empire
Whilst it would not now be unduly cynical to suggest that globalisation
books have become a distinct genre, initially an academic one centred on a
debate between economists, but after Seattle a political one with wider
appeal, Empire does not fit comfortably into
Michael Perelman wrote:
Doug does not belong on the list. He is not and has never been an economist.
Sure, he can write now, but what about after a deadening 7
years as an econ. grad student.
Do grad students take 7 years with econ degrees? I thought they were more efficient
and finished in
New Schoolers have been notoriously famous for taking 'forever'--ten
years not unusual at all, with some coming in for 'extensions' after the
time limit has been reached. There have been some notable
exceptions--e.g., George Argyrous, Stephanie Bell, Jim Stanford--but all
came in with an M.A.
1. CONDOLEEZA RICE PRAISES JOHN KUFUOR:
President Bush has met with seven African Presidents during his first six
months in office, including Nigerian President Obasanjo and South Africa's
Mbeki -- leaders of Sub-Saharan Africa's regional powerhouses -- as well as
three of Africa's most
Devine, James wrote:
Eugene Coyle writes:
The problem is much worse than lying economists. Economists believe what
they say.
right.
Would a biology or other science teacher start with teaching Creationism
and then critiquing it around the edges by pointing out some counter
evidence?
Eugene writes:
I think your answer points up how serious the problem is.
Sounds like you (me, everybody) don't have a framework.
I draw the inference from your post -- apologies if this
is incorrect -- that you are saying, Well, you don't have a framework to
start with, so we
Biologist Phil Gasper once pointed out to us:
\
Phil's just a philosopher, Charles. No biological training. None whatsoever.
jks
Writing about punctuated equilibrium in *The Panda's Thumb* Gould writes:
_
MSN Photos is the
Cuban cows
by Devine, James
21 May 2002 17:54 UTC
from SLATE's summary of today's news from major US papers:
An article in
the [Wall Street JOURNAL] says that Fidel Castro is pushing
his scientists
to clone milking-cows, with the goal being to replicate a famously
productive, and
Ian wrote:
Second to last sentence: just think of the three
body problem of celestial mechanics.
I thought about it very hard to no avail. What is this three body
problem of celestial mechanics? Who is Perelman?
Sabri
This may be a stupid question, but does anyone of the esteemed
economists on the list know where I would find a systematic and
rigorous analysis of information as a commodity ? I just read
Michael Perelman's book about class warfare in the information age,
which contains a lot of very valid
gould dies at 60
by Davies, Daniel
22 May 2002 06:16 UTC
(Thus water after it is heated up gradually,
suddenly begins to boil.
If you're going to show this book to people who are of a pedantic
disposition, you might want to find a different example. This isn't true of
water, which
Levins Lewontin on Lysenko, was Re: Cuban cows
by Louis Proyect
21 May 2002 19:40 UTC
Lou, you've referred off and on to Levins Lewontin, _The Dialectical
Biologist_. They don't treat Lysenko at all like this. See Chapter 7,
The Problem of Lysenkoism. There were many elements involved, and
The areas in which the EU needs to protect [project? - CB] an idea of a
more liberal, multilateralist and just order are legion. Start with
finance. The world needs a genuine supranational financial institution
that monitors economic performance and stands ready to provide hard
currency in times
Shrewd forex traders know that the United States of America needs inward
investment of about $1 billion a day to maintain the level of the dollar in
the world as an exchange medium and store of wealth. This is looking unlikely.
Perhaps they should hold out the begging bowl.
Chris Burford
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:58 AM
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Michael Perelman: I might have
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:26182] Lies abstraction
Ian:What does it mean to say that economists deliberately *lie* in a
world
where the relation of theories and evidences is
Guardian Report:
Wednesday May 22, 2002 10:50 PM
ACCRA, Ghana (AP) - Singer Bono and U.S. Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill
chatted to women selling snails and smoked fish in the capital and donned
traditional robes in a rural village in Ghana on Wednesday.
In a dusty schoolyard, under a
extracts from Guardian
Wednesday May 22, 2002 11:40 PM
Hooded youths and pro-Palestinian demonstrators clashed with police as
President Bush arrived here Wednesday, marring a peaceful protest by 20,000
people opposed to any widening of the U.S. war on terrorism.
...
The anti-war
Chris Burford wrote:
The areas in which the EU needs to protect [project? - CB] an idea
of a more liberal, multilateralist and just order are legion. Start
with finance. The world needs a genuine supranational financial
institution that monitors economic performance and stands ready to
With Bush in Berlin, it is no accident that Prodi outlined an ambitious
plan for European global influence, to the European Parliament.
Of all the kites he flew the power to raise tax directly would be the most
decisive.
BBC report -
European Commission President Romano Prodi has demanded
Jim,
Two rejoinders. You say "If given a choice..."
Aren't you given a choice? If not, what does that say?
And you say, to slice out one sentence,
That doesn't work in teaching, so I
simply use a cleaned-up version of the neoclassical models, with a minimum
emphasis on the imaginary
Here is a more datailed piece on this. Sabri
EU's Prodi Urges Central Tax Power, Opposes Big-State Dominance
By James G. Neuger
Brussels, May 22 (Bloomberg) -- The European Commission called
for central tax-setting powers in Europe, seeking to wrest
economic clout away
You should know that Perelman wrote all the Marx brothers scripts.
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 03:39:11PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
Who is Perelman?
Sabri
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ian wrote:
Second to last sentence: just think of the three
body problem of celestial mechanics.
I thought about it very hard to no avail. What is this three body
problem of celestial mechanics? Who is Perelman?
.
At this moment, the word 'solidarity' is on everybody's lips,
he said. There's a lot of needy people out there, so I think the
big companies that have made fat profits here over the past
decade should have a social conscience.
Full at:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20020522
And how are you (me, us) going to get an alternative theory if we keep
honoring neoclassical models?
so what's your alternative?
JD
RE the call for an alternative text...
A crude draft of an alternative text can be found online at:
http://economics.csusb.edu/faculty/nilsson/nilsson.htm
Click on Course Webpages and then on Economics 200: Principles of
Microeconomics.
Warning: expect some incoherence in these chapters as
Wednesday, May 22, 2002
Japanese on brink of extinction
Reuters
Tokyo, May 21: The Japanese race will face extinction unless something is
done, Japans Health Minister said on Tuesday, raising the rhetoric in a
campaign to boost the birth rate.
Some say a slight decline is a plus, but if
Damn it. Not micro economics. I need a decent macro text, or is that an
oxymoron?
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[The prophecy of doom is made to avert its coming, and it would be the
height of injustice later to deride the 'alarmists' because 'it did not
turn out so bad after all.' To have been wrong may be their merit. Hans
Jonas]
The way we will live in 2032...
· Half the world will be short of water
·
Jim asked how I would teach, instead of neo-classical micro.
I've asserted that neo-classical is a story. A story, propaganda,
designed and intended to subjagate.
Well, I would tell a different story. The neoclassical story is that
firms maximize profits, fight competition by cutting prices,
Michael Perelman:
Damn it. Not micro economics. I need a decent macro text, or is that
an oxymoron?
if you don't mind anti-union rhetoric and a really bad sense of
organization, Gottheil presents an old-fashioned intro Keynesian textbook.
JD
I appreciate the reports that we get from people with expertise outside of
the US. I wish that some of you lurkers would step in.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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