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Activism in New Orleans, Louisiana?

2002-09-24 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
A friend of mine recently moved to New Orleans, Louisiana. He wants to know left-wing activist organizations (esp. with anti-war focus) and contact persons to get in touch with in New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Shreveport, etc. Could anyone give me clues? -- Yoshie * Calendar of Events in

PK against the war

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: PK against the war [Along with Al Gore, an opionion leader of one wing of the establishment is veering against Dubya's splendid little war.] New York TIMES/September 24, 2002 White Man's Burden By PAUL KRUGMAN We should listen to Karl Rove when he lauds former presidents. For

Venezuela

2002-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect
(Although many of us had high hopes that Venezuela could move forward through a mixed economy, it seems that once again we are witnessing what happens when a revolution stops short of transforming the mode of production. The local capitalist class--assisted by imperialism--will strangle any

american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Ian Murray
Why so? 100 hundred years after Spencer, angry Americans are more anxious to bash people of different hue, colour, etc, than ever. Why, there are people on this very list who came out in support of the Bush tactic of bombing Afghanistan, and they are not at all apologetic, on the contrary, they

Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect
ambitions sketched out here can seek their objectives. Or to put it another way: the great majority of the American people are not nearly as militarist, imperialist or aggressive as their German equivalents in 1914; but most German people in 1914 would at least have been able to find France on a

Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
The younger intelligentsia meanwhile has also been stripped of any real knowledge of the outside world by academic neglect of history and regional studies in favour of disciplines which are often no more than a crass projection of American assumptions and prejudices (Rational Choice Theory is the

Re: PK against the war

2002-09-24 Thread Michael Perelman
Krugman compared Jackson to Bush. Jackson took over Florida without any authority to do so when he was fighting the Native Americans. Jackson was a vicious man who loved to fight. He got out of his sick bed several times when given the opportunity to raise troops against the Native Americans.

Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: Right. Our intelligentsia: Christopher Hitchens, Marc Cooper, Michael Berube, George Packer and all the others who would have been writing articles in 1914 had they been alive in favor of stopping the Hun. Marc Cooper wrote this in the LA Weekly for August 16-20: And

Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect
At 01:11 PM 9/24/2002 -0400, you wrote: Louis Proyect wrote: Right. Our intelligentsia: Christopher Hitchens, Marc Cooper, Michael Berube, George Packer and all the others who would have been writing articles in 1914 had they been alive in favor of stopping the Hun. Marc Cooper wrote this in

Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't think that we need to debate Cooper here. I only wished that more people would oppose this war, which seems to combine silliness, crude politics, and brutality in an unprecedented way. On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:18:39PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: At 01:11 PM 9/24/2002 -0400, you

Re: Re: Comments on CAFTA etc.

2002-09-24 Thread F G
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:30492] Re: Comments on CAFTA etc. Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:54:41 -0700 What could possibly make the leadership of a country move in this direction? Are they merely going for personal

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30509] Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux I don't think that we need to debate Cooper here. I only wished that more people would oppose this war, which seems to combine silliness, crude politics, and brutality in an unprecedented way. right. If our goal is to

Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread ravi
Doug Henwood wrote: Louis Proyect wrote: Right. Our intelligentsia: Christopher Hitchens, Marc Cooper, Michael Berube, George Packer and all the others who would have been writing articles in 1914 had they been alive in favor of stopping the Hun. Marc Cooper wrote this in the LA

poverty up

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: poverty up New York TIMES/September 24, 2002 Recession Cut Incomes and Swelled Poverty Rolls, U.S. Says By DAVID STOUT WASHINGTON, Sept. 24 -- The number of poor people in the United States rose by about 1.3 million last year, while household income declined significantly as the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: I don't think that we need to debate Cooper here. Since when is correcting the record a form of debate? Is this a general PEN-L principle, or does it apply only to certain personalities? Doug

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Michael Perelman
I had no objection to your correcting the record. In fact, I found it welcome. I thought Ravi did a service in reviewing Cooper's mixed record. But I think that it is a mistake to emphasize personalities -- Cooper or otherwise. On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 01:42:06PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Devine: right. If our goal is to fight Dubya's war against Iraq, it's wrong to be too conscious of some author's checkered past. During the Vietnam war, for example, it would have been a mistake to exclude someone from the movement because he or she supported the US in Korea or some other

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30514] Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redux I wrote:right. [agreeing that personalities are secondary] If our goal is to fight Dubya's war against Iraq, it's wrong to be too conscious of some author's checkered past. During the Vietnam war, for example, it would

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redu x

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30518] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redu x is there an on-line discussion group that specializes in humor? is it called borscht-belt-l? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redu x

2002-09-24 Thread Ian Murray
RE: [PEN-L:30518] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redu x From: Devine, James is there an on-line discussion group that specializes in humor? is it called borscht-belt-l? Even if information wants to be free, comedy and humor are not public goods to be

humor

2002-09-24 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: is there an on-line discussion group that specializes in humor? is it called borscht-belt-l? Don't forget news://alt.politics.socialism.trotsky! Doug

Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Lisa Stolarski
Now THAT'S funny. Lisa S. on 09/24/2002 5:42 PM, Doug Henwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devine, James wrote: is there an on-line discussion group that specializes in humor? is it called borscht-belt-l? Don't forget news://alt.politics.socialism.trotsky! Doug

Re: Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Doug Henwood
joanna bujes wrote: Don't forget news://alt.politics.socialism.trotsky! Doug Hey Doug. Netscape says it can't find it. Was THAT the joke? Well, too bad, cause this is my one and only chance to tell my Trotsky joke: Heavens no. I haven't visited it in ages. I can't remember the last time I

Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread joanna bujes
Don't forget news://alt.politics.socialism.trotsky! Doug Hey Doug. Netscape says it can't find it. Was THAT the joke? Well, too bad, cause this is my one and only chance to tell my Trotsky joke: A messanger arrives at the Kremlin bearing a telegram. I must speak to Comrade Stalin, he cries

Re: Re: Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread ravi
Doug Henwood wrote: joanna bujes wrote: Don't forget news://alt.politics.socialism.trotsky! Hey Doug. Netscape says it can't find it. Was THAT the joke? Well, too bad, cause this is my one and only chance to tell my Trotsky joke: Heavens no. I haven't visited it in ages. I can't remember

RE: Re: Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30525] Re: Re: humor it's more likely that Joanna's browser isn't currently set up to read newsgroups. Mine isn't either. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Doug Henwood

RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: american solipsism redu x

2002-09-24 Thread Max B. Sawicky
I thought this was it. mbs is there an on-line discussion group that specializes in humor? is it called borscht-belt-l? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

APST

2002-09-24 Thread Doug Henwood
You can get APST through Google: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8safe=offgroup=alt.politics.socialism.trotsky. Doug

RE: RE: Re: Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30527] RE: Re: Re: humor I sent the following message: it's more likely that Joanna's browser isn't currently set up to read newsgroups. Mine isn't either. this appears in the archive of the listserver. but the following is what I got from the list in MS Outlook:

Message for Ravi

2002-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Ravi, for reasons probably related to the heavy-duty spam protection I am using, I never get your PEN-L posts. Since I can't figure out your email address from the PEN-L archives, could you please send a test message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so I can analyze why your messages don't end up in my

Re: re Turkish Expansionism Iraqi War

2002-09-24 Thread Sabri Oncu
Hari wrote: should prove of interest to more than just Sabri (Whose views on this matter I would especially appreciate). Hi Hari, Having read the article, I would say that this is a very _dangerous_ topic not just for me but for most citizens of Turkey to discuss in an environment open to

Fri., 9/27: Vigil for Colombia

2002-09-24 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Please join Women in Black and the Ohio Working Group on Latin America this Friday, Sept 27, 2002 at 15th Ave. and High St. in Columbus, OH from 5:30 - 6:30 PM as part of the national Colombia Mobilization effort. We are joining hands to oppose US military aid to Colombia, to oppose Plan

Re: RE: RE: Re: Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Ian Murray
RE: [PEN-L:30527] RE: Re: Re: humor - Original Message - From: Devine, James To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: [PEN-L:30531] RE: RE: Re: Re: humor I sent the following message: it's more likely that Joanna's browser isn't currently set up to read

Re: Message for Ravi

2002-09-24 Thread Louis Proyect
Ravi, I just realized that the problem is with my panix account. So could you please send your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead? Thanks. -- Louis Proyect www.marxmail.org

Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Sabri Oncu
Ian in reply to Jim: Your font's too small? :-) Jim, You really need to do something about your font size and this is not a joke. Or maybe it is. But please do something about it. Most of us are not that young anymore, you know? Sabri

Re: Re: humor

2002-09-24 Thread Carrol Cox
Sabri Oncu wrote: But please do something about it. Most of us are not that young anymore, you know? Your mail program _may_ have a command that will increase the font size of the post you are reading. With Netscape Communicator each time one hits Alt V F the font increases. Carrol

21 million cows on the wall, 21 million cows...

2002-09-24 Thread Ian Murray
[Jim is that infuriating enuff' 4 'ya?] Cows can fly upper class on common agricultural fare Charlotte Denny and Andrew Clark Wednesday September 25, 2002 The Guardian The Countryside Alliance may have a beef over the size of its subsidy cheques, but a new report calculates today that the

Argentina capitulates???

2002-09-24 Thread Michael Perelman
Does yesterday's story that Argentina had agreed to use its bank reserves to pay that the IMF mean that that the government has capitulated? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fisk on Blair's Dossier

2002-09-24 Thread michael perelman
25 September 2002 The dishonesty of this so-called dossier Robert Fisk Tony Blair's dossier on Iraq is a shocking document. Reading it can only fill a decent human being with shame and outrage. Its pages are final proof – if the contents are true – that a massive crime against humanity has

ge

2002-09-24 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.businessweek.com SEPTEMBER 24, 2002 INSIDE WALL STREET ONLINE By Gene Marcial Forget Welch, GE Has Its Own Problems Morgan Stanley's Scott Davis says bad P.R. about the ex-CEO's retirement perks is irrelevant -- to his generally bearish outlook How do investors regard General

RE: Argentina capitulates???

2002-09-24 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Michael - There are mixed signals. Some officials said they would use reserves to make payments, some said they would under certain conditions, some said they would make their September payment, but not October, etc. See, e.g.,: http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20020924-033746-5194r If you