Title: war speculations
My war speculations are working out in practice (though of course this isn't happy news for Iraqis or for coalition soldiers and taxpayers). The US Marines are arresting civilian men seen as potential threats (because many of them are threats, defending their country
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Mesopotamia. Babylon. The Tigris and Euphrates
How many children, in how many classrooms, over how many centuries, have
hang-glided through the past, transported on the wings of these words?
And now the bombs are falling, incinerating and
I have no idea about the reliability of this source. Shouldn't the providers
get kickbacks to finance early military retirements?
Cheers, Ken Hanly
http://commondreams.org/headlines03/0401-14.htm
Broadcast on April 1, 2003 by the New York Daily News
Deal to Sell Water All Wet, Critics Charge
This is from the Daily Times (Pakistan) but seems from the bottom it might
have come from Boston Globe originally. I think that Halliburton may have
been eliminated from the reconstruction bids but of course its subsidiary
did get oil well fire contract.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
The Cheney connection
Title: Good for a lift
An essay from Clarissa
Pinkola Estes, author of Women Who Run With Wolves
Mis estimados: Do not lose
heart. We were made for these times. I have heard from so many
recently who are deeply and properly bewildered. They are concerned
about the state of affairs in our world
http://www.eurasianet.org
BUSINESS ECONOMICS April 2, 2003
TOP OIL CONSULTANT INDICTED IN NEW YORK IN CASE WITH IMPLICATIONS FOR
KAZAKHSTAN
3/31/03
After an extensive grand jury investigation, prominent oil consultant
James Giffen was arraigned March 31 in New York on two counts of violating
Eugene:
With my post I was hoping to encourage a discussion -- and
get an answer -- of how to make clear to the vast majority
that their dreams of being rich will never be realized.
Any help?
Micheal Yates has a new book out: Naming the System: Inequality
and Labor in the Global Economy. It
It sounds like a formula for political
failure: telling people they can never
do much better than they're doing at
present. What a bummer.
It's doubly problematic, as all here can
appreciate, for a worker to hear this from
a middle class intellectual type.
I suggest that hope will always
Max:
Better, I say, to have a political program
that speaks to individuals' ability to take
the most practical route out of wage slavery --
going into business for themselves.
I did that Max. I am the President and CEO of my own consulting
company. It doesn't help, believe me.
Or maybe, I
In a message dated 4/1/03 2:56:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
With my post I was hoping to encourage a discussion -- and get an answer
-- of how to make clear to the vast majority that their dreams of being
rich will never be realized. Any help?
Gene Coyle
The
Better, I say, to have a political programthat speaks to individuals' ability to takethe most practical route out of wage slavery --going into business for themselves.
I presume you mean collectively, in coops and the like? jksDo you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms,
In a message dated 4/1/03 9:34:19 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The recent survey of 1,000 adults found that only 2% of Americans
consider themselves rich today, but a whopping 31% expect to become rich
someday. Understandably, young people are most optimistic, with 51% of
Better, I say, to have a political program
that speaks to individuals' ability to take
the most practical route out of wage slavery --
going into business for themselves.
I presume you mean collectively, in coops and the like? jks
Facilitating coops is important, but I also mean
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36410] RE: Re: WSJ - Is This A Great Country?
it makes more sense to start with existing political movements and existing discontents and try to link up and build on the ones that promise a better chance of building a movement that will change the balance of power in the
That's nuts. You know the failure rates for small business better than I do. I just know that it is veryhigh. And how amny of self-employed or entrepreneurs go into their 60s (or 70s) with enough to retire on decently? jks
"Max B. Sawicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Better, I say, to have a
In a message dated 4/2/03 10:36:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One way of making
clear to the vast majority that their dreams of being rich will
never be realized is to publish more books like that. Maybe even
in a simpler language. Another possibility is offering courses
Wierdly enough, the idea that people can become rich worked less during
the 60's when the likelihood of becoming well off was higher. How much is
the fear of being poor operative today rathern than a dream of becoming
rich?
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 01:02:19PM -0800, Devine, James wrote:
it makes
Title: RE: WSJ - Is This A Great Country?
The benefit of rising to the top has risen, even though the possibility of doing so has fallen drastically. But people still buy lottery tickets, don't they?
Back in the 1950s and 1960s in the US, the benefits of economic growth were more evenly
Title: Re: [PEN-L:36417] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: WSJ -
Is This A
Since winning the lottery is the way people get rich
(in their fantasies), why not propose exempting
lottery winnings from the federal income tax (which
would in fact only be fair, since such winnings
are
not income but transfers, and
Here is the WSJ linking Rumsfeld and Cheney with Art. Laffter
POLITICAL CAPITAL
By ALAN MURRAY
'Dynamic' Scoring Ends
Debate on Taxes, Revenue
Do tax cuts pay for themselves? That's been the hot debate of
American political economy for the better part of three decades.
But it ended last week
A friend writes from Albuquerque NM..
Dan:
Clearly the rules for everything are changing and I don't see a way
back, for principles of any kind. Leaders have re-defined what the
traffic will bear. I feel so overwhelmed by the scope of it, stymied,
stupid, and spread out on a sheer rock
Title: Kucinich: Stop
Kucinich Takes to The House
Floor To Call For An End to The War
WASHINGTON - April 1 - Congressman Dennis
J. Kucinich (D-OH), who leads opposition to the War in Iraq within
the House, today, issued the following statement on the House
floor:
"Stop the war now. As Baghdad
What's the difference?
The individual will prefer to be the judge of whether he or she
ought to put in the effort required to beat the odds.
mbs
I don't tell people that they'll never get rich. Rather, I present the
evidence and logic that says that only a small percentage of them will.
I know the failure rate is high.
But a person could fail more than once
and still make it eventually. The real
issue I think is mobility. We know there's
a lot of immobility. Make it numbingly simple.
Suppose you have a 90 percent chance of getting
nowhere, and a 10 percent chance of getting
I have argued with Chris and Lou long enough and
wrote enough material ... Shit . . .I have a brand
name ... damn. I wonder ... if I got . . . . wait a
minute... from each small booklet ... and multiplied
this by at least three a year. Shit . . . . I might
still be able to move to Vegas .
You're right. You buy tickets with after tax dollars,
so taxing winnings is double taxation. (There's an
extra hidden tax in the fact that lotteries are
unfair, since their purpose is to raise revenue.)
Alternatively you could make the ticket price
deductible and tax the winnings. (That
COMMENTARY
How the IMF Lost Turkey
By CLAUDIA ROSETT
How did we lose the loyalty of Turkey , and with it that much-wanted
northern front for the war in Iraq?
It sure wasn't for lack of largesse.
Over the past four years, at the clear behest of the U.S., Turkey's
troubled economy has
Max:
I know the failure rate is high.
But a person could fail more than once
and still make it eventually. The real
issue I think is mobility. We know there's
a lot of immobility. Make it numbingly simple.
Suppose you have a 90 percent chance of getting
nowhere, and a 10 percent chance
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 17:19:54 (-0500) Max B. Sawicky writes:
I know the failure rate is high.
But a person could fail more than once
and still make it eventually. The real
issue I think is mobility. We know there's
a lot of immobility. Make it numbingly simple.
Suppose you have a 90
There is a minor branch of economic (twig?) that studies the determinants
of happiness. Happiness does not seem to increase once a society reaches
about $15,000 a year. Happiness instead is determined by relative status.
People expect, according to surveys, more wealth to make them happy, but
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36425] WSJ - Is This A Great Country?
the difference is that I just am telling the person the truth (as I see it) rather than saying it's impossible and badmouthing the American dream.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
At 2003-04-02 14:40 -0800, you wrote:
COMMENTARY
How the IMF Lost Turkey
By CLAUDIA ROSETT
How did we lose the loyalty of Turkey , and with it that much-wanted
northern front for the war in Iraq?
I would have thought that Turkey is a natural ally of Saddam Hussein, in so
far as it does not
At 02:53 PM 04/02/2003 -0800, you wrote:
There is a minor branch of economic (twig?) that studies the determinants
of happiness. Happiness does not seem to increase once a society reaches
about $15,000 a year. Happiness instead is determined by relative status.
Economists are clueless. To quote
Your problem is that you want to solve
somebody's problem for them.
The government's problem I would say is setting
the rules to facilitate individual or cooperative
efforts, not to try to preclude them, nor to guarantee
their success.
For those who fail, there would remain social insurance.
Sorry, it was from the ed. page of the Wall St. Journal.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The American Dream is a crock of shit. Why say anything in its defense?
Joanna
Following the wisdom of my guru, the Sage of Saskatoon,
I would qualify my remarks by noting that the interest
in 'getting rich' is culture dependent in a society where
incentives are biased in favor of individual consumption
of material goods and against collective consumption of
immaterial
In Wednesday's Morning Star
Seven deadly mistakes
It seems that there have been some very fundamental miscalculations by the
British and Washington in this.
First, that there was a link between Iraq and al-Quida. Second, that the
rest of the world would support a war. Third, that the UN would
In a message dated 4/2/03 2:17:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I know the failure rate is high.
But a person could fail more than once
and still make it eventually. The real
issue I think is mobility. We know there's
a lot of immobility. Make it numbingly simple.
Suppose
Max:
Your problem is that you want to solve
somebody's problem for them.
Not at all! A complete misunderstanding...
I am in this revolution business mostly because I want to solve
my own problem.
I just want to go home and teach math to my beloved students.
That is all I want!
Sabri
In a message dated 4/2/03 2:54:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
People expect, according to surveys, more wealth to make them happy, but
happiness seems to depend upon relative status. So if the person in the
mirror wants to get rich, on some level he needs to know that
BBC2 Wed night questioned US claims to have destroyed two Republican Guard
divisions.
BBC also reported that the US had secured the main roads around Karbala,
not the entire town.
The military analyst on BBC2 also detected some rumblings that the US were
critical that the British had not
- Original Message -
From: Max B. Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Following the wisdom of my guru, the Sage of Saskatoon,
I would qualify my remarks by noting that the interest
in 'getting rich' is culture dependent in a society where
incentives are biased in favor of individual
What is truly pathetic...and indicative of where people are at these days
in this great country of ours is their notion that rich means an annual
income of $120,000. Is it mentioned in the survey whether one would have to
work for this income?
Joanna
At 03:54 PM 04/02/2003 -0800, you wrote:
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36438] Re: The American Dream
how can you say that the American dream is _anything_ if you haven't defined what in heck it means?
How can you denigrate something that a lot of working people believe in (even though what it means is pretty vague) without providing any
At 04:04 PM 04/02/2003 -0800, you wrote:
how can you say that the
American dream is _anything_ if you haven't defined what in
heck it means?
How can you denigrate something that a lot of working people
believe in (even though what it means is pretty vague) without providing
any evidence or
Eugene:
With my post I was hoping to encourage a discussion -- and
get an answer -- of how to make clear to the vast majority
that their dreams of being rich will never be realized.
Any help?
Gene,
How did you like my help?
Best,
Sabri
On Wednesday, April 2, 2003 at 18:15:58 (-0500) Max B. Sawicky writes:
Following the wisdom of my guru, the Sage of Saskatoon,
I would qualify my remarks by noting that the interest
in 'getting rich' is culture dependent in a society where
incentives are biased in favor of individual consumption
Title: Re: The American Dream
At 4:04 PM -0800 4/2/03, Devine, James wrote:
how can you say that the
American dream is _anything_ if you haven't defined what
in heck it means?
The American Dream is meant to be one of those
phrases -- like becoming rich someday -- that mean
different things to
Title: RE: The American Dream
joanna bujes writes:
I think it is a mistake to call this something the working man believes in as if it were some kind of inborn creed as opposed to the result of a life-time of commerical brainwashing.
first of all, I didn't refer to the working man, since
At 3:54 PM -0800 4/2/03, Ian Murray wrote:
Following the wisdom of my guru, the Sage of Saskatoon,
I would qualify my remarks by noting that the interest
in 'getting rich' is culture dependent in a society where
incentives are biased in favor of individual consumption
of material goods and
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36396] the emporer
Emperor George
What has become of American values and idealism? All swept away in this
thoroughly un-American war
Jonathan Freedland
Wednesday April 2, 2003
The Guardian
Ian writes: obviously the guy hasn't read William Appleman Williams.
yeah, the
Devine, James wrote:
yeah, the rhetorical bit of contrasting Bushist actions with
American ideals doesn't work for me at all, since these ideals
have mostly been just a matter of rhetoric. But it works for some,
if not most, US liberals. If I send it to my mom, she'll be
impressed.
I think
Third, I don't believe in the
brainwashing theory of ideology, which treats people's ideas as mere
objects for manipulation. Brainwashing only works when people are under
duress and the like.
In the U.S. people are exposed to commercial messages every fifteen
minutes of their lives when they
joanna bujes wrote:
At 02:53 PM 04/02/2003 -0800, you wrote:
There is a minor branch of economic (twig?) that studies the determinants
of happiness. Happiness does not seem to increase once a society reaches
about $15,000 a year. Happiness instead is determined by relative status.
I'm with your mom. I'm outraged as an internationalist, and offended and ashamed as an American. But this is something you can be argued into, though I think the feral alienation from America on the left has regrettably diminished our appeal in this nation. jks
"Devine, James" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Having nothing to back this up other than observation, I think happiness is much more related to community than it is to wealth. Unfortunately, the wealthiest countries seem to lack or even have destroyed community. By community I am meaning that you know and have an investment in your neighbours
Title: RE: [PEN-L:36429] who lost Turkey?
CLAUDIA ROSETT writes: When Turkey
borrowed its way into financial crisis in 1999 and came to Washington
for help, the first mistake was to start supplying subsidies
immediately. Had the U.S. left Turkey's politicians to sort out their
own
This relates to an item I saw in Adbusters once.A survey asked people how much money they would need to be happy and feel financially secure. Across the board, whether the CEO of a major corporations or some poor slob working for minimum wage, the answer was roughly "twice as much." People
At 6:04 PM -0800 4/2/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
I think the feral alienation from America on the left has
regrettably diminished our appeal in this nation. jks
American leftists (broadly defined), on the average, sound to me to
be decidedly more nationalistic than Japanese leftists (also
At 8:56 PM -0500 4/2/03, Doug Henwood wrote:
yeah, the rhetorical bit of contrasting Bushist actions with
American ideals doesn't work for me at all, since these ideals
have mostly been just a matter of rhetoric. But it works for some,
if not most, US liberals. If I send it to my mom, she'll be
The question is why such promises -- freedom, self-development, democracy, etc. -- are cast as "American" values and ideals.--
Just because we say they are American doesn't mean that they can't be other people's too. Americans do have a particular mix of them ("We hold these truths to be self
Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 6:04 PM -0800 4/2/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:I think the feral alienation from America on the left has regrettably diminished our appeal in this nation. jksAmerican leftists (broadly defined), on the average, sound to me to be decidedly more
In a recent lecture, Richard Layard cited a pair of studies one of which showed a
relative preference for income and the other an
absolute preference for time. For example, given the choice between making $40,000
when the average income was $80,000 or $20,000
when the average was $10,000 people
Not only Iraq mistreats reporters but this wont be on front pages.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
http://www.democracynow.org/scemama.htm
U.S. military warns foreign journalists in Iraq:
Don't mess with my soldiers. Don't mess with them because they are trained
like dogs to kill. And they will kill you...
Sabri, I liked it. I will get Michael Yates's book.
But I am thinking of institutions -- like students loans, for example --
that seduce people into the dream of being rich. First, the loan
facilitates the education that will lead to riches. And then paying the
loan requires the drive for
I am following this closely because I have several student
friends at Columbia who keep me informed.
As the wobblies said: An Injury to One is an Injury to All.
Best,
Sabri
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http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/02/3
e8aca102c6cf
Published on April 02, 2003
Yoshie Furuhashi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 6:04 PM -0800 4/2/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
I think the feral alienation from America on the left has
regrettably diminished our appeal in this nation. jks
American leftists (broadly defined), on the average, sound to me to
be decidedly more
At 7:48 PM -0800 4/2/03, Eugene Coyle wrote:
the loan facilitates the education that will lead to riches.
Does it?
--
Yoshie
* Calendar of Events in Columbus:
http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html
* Student International Forum: http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/
* Committee for Justice in
It is not only dreams but the framework of life that
we are burdened with.
Gene
I cannot agree more! This is what Max is missing! It is not the
players that are the problem, although some, such as the Bush
gang, are, but the game itself.
We need to attack the game or, better, the rules of
Justin says:
The question is why such promises -- freedom, self-development,
democracy, etc. -- are cast as American values and ideals.
Just because we say they are American doesn't mean that they can't
be other people's too. Americans do have a particular mix of them
(We hold these truths to
Yoshie:
At 7:48 PM -0800 4/2/03, Eugene Coyle wrote:
the loan facilitates the education that will lead
to riches.
Does it?
It depends. If the loan is for an MBA, it might. If it is for an
anthropology degree, forget about it!
Sabri
[note the page number for the paper editionburied..]
U.S., Allies Clash Over Plan to Use Iraqi Oil Profits for Rebuilding
By Colum Lynch and Peter Behr
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, April 3, 2003; Page A34
UNITED NATIONS, April 2 -- The Defense Department is pressing ahead
from the Independent
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=393124
Pentagon vetoes new task force to take control of Baghdad
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington
02 April 2003
The parallel internal war in Washington over Iraq flared again yesterday
when the Pentagon vetoed a
Your point again? You think it will help spread our message if we start going on about Pig Fascist Amerikkka? Most Americans don't believe most of what we believe. Maybe if we believe some of what they believe, and bend it a bit our way, we will do better in reaching them. Moreover it is true that
The US government has been constantly waging war, overtly or covertly, against one nation or another, or one movement or another, ever since the USA became the world's hegemon. Such material conditions have created ideological conditions saturated with such symbols of nationalism as the flag, the
troy cochrane wrote:
Having nothing to back this up other than observation, I think happiness
is much more related to community than it is to wealth. Unfortunately,
the wealthiest countries seem to lack or even have destroyed community.
By community I am meaning that you know and have an
I have to report with regret that I think the British government is winning
the propaganda war.
Newsnight, the BBC 2 programme which used to be pentratingly critical of
Government policy, is no longer what it was. Channel 4 News which before
the war hosted a debate in which the studio audience
http://istanbul.indymedia.org
As the US-UK attack in Iraq faces unexpected civil resistance and
slows down, the US is again asking support from Turkey for an
Northern Iraqi Front. Colin Powell, visiting Ankara for related
talks, was protested in many locations, despite his travel route
being
Village Voice, April 2 - 8, 2003
Pro-War Media Conglomerate Tries to Take Over New York
Bush's Voice of America
by Wayne Barrett
Clear Channel Communications, the Texas-based media colossus that's
fomenting pro-war rallies and submarining airplay for anti-war artists,
has quietly become a brash
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