Re: Monthly Review: China and Market Socialism

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
What is the best source that discusses the pre-reform political and economic developments in China. The Monthly Review special issue focuses almost entirely on post-1978. Would a comparison of directions/developments pre- and post -978 be worthwhile? Joel Wendland

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 3:07 AM I think if you really wanted to take over the state, you'd be better off with a state-wide IRV campaign. Probably equally doomed, but at least the interim incentives would make more sense: you'd build up an organization outside their grasp that could affect

Re: The South and the Election

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
The south and the elections By John Slaughter The benchmark of American democracy since its inception has been the vote. While the masses of the people who participated in the revolution of 1776 -- the workers fresh from the debtor's prisons of Europe, indentured servants, farmers, slaves,

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/20/2004 1:20:58 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just one more thing: Is apologizing for the occupation part of being a great "uniter" rather than a "divider" of the working class? Just curious, you know, because my experience with union

Re: Greed

2004-07-22 Thread David B. Shemano
Ted Winslow writes: Is Marx making an empirical point? Yes. It's an empirical claim about the psychology dominant in capitalism. The idea of greed' as an irrational passion is ancient. As Marx points out in Capital, it can be found in Aristotle. Aristotle opposes Oeconomic to

Re: Russian econ growth

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Doss
Woosh! It's boom time! RUSSIAN POPULATION: INCOMES GROW 9.8 PERCENT MOSCOW, July 21 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian population's real incomes (those minus mandatory payments, adjusted to the index of consumer prices) have gone up over the past six months by 9.8 percent in comparison with the same

Re: Chechnya Capitalism

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Doss
I wrote, referring to Chechen nutball ideologist Nukhayev: Read the book! As it turns out, however, unless you read Russian, you can't. Klebnikov's book Razgovor s varvorom, his interviews with Nukhayev, has not been translated into English. Therefore probably not available on Lexis-Nexis

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread sartesian
Thanks for that Brother Melvin. Damned if I didn't think that Fraser tried to fight his way into Jefferson Avenue. But I was out of Detroit in 1973, and heard about it, and the other battles, from friends. 1970-73 were the years, though, weren't they. Funny how it coincides with a peak in

Re: dialectics and logic

2004-07-22 Thread soula avramidis
There is a Marxian metaphyisc in the principle " nothing is constant but change" but it is aworrysome religion to hold because it implies that freedom lies in the appreciation of necessity or neccesity to change things. building onto a logic that calls for a constant detection of what needs to

Another Democratic Party presidential candidate

2004-07-22 Thread Seth Sandronsky
July 22, 2004 PEN-L: When the state Democratic Party held its annual convention last year in Sacramento, young followers of LL attempted to disrupt a public event at the Capitol building. Democratic presidential candidate Carol Moseley Braun was one of the speakers. It was the eve of the U.S.

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael Hoover wrote: A person who puts forward a proposal should be prepared to act on it. Otherwise, others will simply conclude that, if the idea is not even worth the proposer's time, then, it's not worth their time either. -- Yoshie people do different things, as for doug, he's a reporter

absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-22 Thread Charles Brown
by Ted Winslow The ontological idea of internal relations, the idea that makes Marx's analysis of capitalism dialectical, leads to the treatment of law as immanent. The nature of individuals, in the case of human individuals the degree of their rational self-consciousness as expressed in their

More jobs, worse work

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, July 22, 2004 OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR More Jobs, Worse Work By Stephen S. Roach The state of the American labor market remains the defining issue of the current economic debate. Through February, the United States was mired in the depths of the worst jobless recovery of the post-World War II

Kerry on the campaign trail

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
LA Weekly, July 23-29, 2004 15 Weeks and Counting Its Not Just the Stupid Economy Can Kerry, soon to be anointed the anti-Bush, find a message to carry the Democrats to victory? by Howard Blume But can this man give a straight answer to a probing question? So how are things in Ohio? With any

differences - Bush Kerry

2004-07-22 Thread Eugene Coyle
Check this out: www.jibjab.com

James Heartfield on anti-capitalism

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
As probably the sole member of Frank Furedi's posse that retains a shred of Marxist credibility, his essay that appeared in a journal called interventions is worth considering: http://www.heartfield.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/interventions.pdf It tries to come to terms with the anti-globalization,

United Nations Human Indicators Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Charles Brown
by Doug Henwood That was long ago, in the HDI's early days. In the first iteration, the U.S. scored badly. As someone in the UN told me, orders came down from the top - the White House - to make the numbers look better. And they were remade to look better in subsequent years. One reason - the

Re: United Nations Human Indicators Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Charles Brown wrote: CB: I notice they seem to just assume a 99% literacy rate for the U.S. ( footnote e ?) ? Is this a fudge ? Yup. I used to have the Bush 41-era literacy reports - they were appalling. Really high percentages of grownups who couldn't read a bus schedule, a simple bar graph, or

Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Paul
Thanks to Louis and to Ulhas for pointing out the recently released Human Development Index 2004 and Doug for his comments. I want to make a somewhat different point about indexes themselves - caution about their use. Social, economic and political indexes have become a popular tool among think

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Paul wrote: It is not that I am against all indexes for all uses (and the HDI is among the most benign). I should have added that part of the impulse behind the development of the HDI was to reduce pressure for redistribution - to shift the focus from economic to social indicators. Of course,

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Paul wrote: Thanks to Louis and to Ulhas for pointing out the recently released Human Development Index 2004 and Doug for his comments. I want to make a somewhat different point about indexes themselves - caution about their use. Social, economic and political indexes have become a popular tool

Re: India's HDI Improves, Ranking Doesn't

2004-07-22 Thread Doug Henwood
Anthony D'Costa wrote: There are other splits, which have been better handled, for example language. Thus far 20 languages or so have been recognized by the government. How widely used is English? Doug

FW: hilarious!

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
http://www.jibjab.com/-- a funny two-minute flick. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

FW: berger whopper

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
Title: BOROWITZ report.com OSAMA FOUND IN SANDY BERGER'S PANTS [by Andy Borowitz]War on Terror Over The war on terror came to an unexpectedly abrupt end today as the al-Qaeda network kingpin Osama bin Laden was found hiding in the pants of former national security adviser Sandy Berger.While

Re: Not a dime's worth of difference

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
mh writes:i've always thought that wallace's assertion was incorrect, there's at least a quarter's worth of difference between 2 major parties... a better metaphor: the GOPsters are the hard cop, while the Dems are the soft cop. But if you're the prisoner, they're both against you. jd

Loss of faith in higher education

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Chronicle of Higher Education, July 23, 2004 OBSERVER Keeping the Faith By SHANNON HODGES In 1965, at age 5, I was swept away, with my four brothers, from Kansas City to our grandparents' rural Arkansas home. My mother was at a Kansas State psychiatric hospital in Osawatomie, and, having recently

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece/union democracy and revolutionary impulse

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/22/2004 4:36:59 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for that Brother Melvin. Damned if I didn't think that Fraser tried to fight his way into Jefferson Avenue. But I was out of Detroit in 1973, and heard about it, and the other battles, from

Re: India's HDI Improves, Ranking Doesn't

2004-07-22 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Anthony D'Costa wrote: The Hindu-Muslim divide is India's least problematic cultural divide. Hindu-Muslim divide has the potential to threaten India's unity and democratic structure. Caste divide does not have that potential. The Indian government has generally handled demands for autonomy

Re: India's HDI Improves, Ranking Doesn't

2004-07-22 Thread Anthony D'Costa
This is hard to estimate but the numbers that float around, are 3-4% of the population, which is not a small number by any means. English has been both a uniting factor (in a national sense) but also one that sets the rural-urban and class divide more forcefully. Indians want their children to

Apropos Albany

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
[Michael Hoover rightly pointed out that New York State's politics were worse than most other states, so people in other states might have opportunities that we in New York don't. Apropos, here's an article on a recent study that claims to show that our state political system in New York politics

Marc Cooper on the DP convention

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
(Talk about cognitive dissonance. Marc Cooper, one of the most strident anti-Nader voices, practically makes the case for Nader in this baleful account of the upcoming DP convention. Meanwhile, this issue of the LA Weekly contains an article by Micah Sifry--referred to below by Cooper--who I

Re: FW: berger whopper

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
testing

Thomas Naylor on Iran/al-Qaeda fake reports of the past

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
http://www.juancole.com/2004_07_01_juancole_archive.html#109044887342331691 Professor Thomas Naylor of McGill writes: quote This is certainly not the the first time these tales about Iran cooperating with al-Qa'idah have surfaced. About two years ago US spooks floated via the Washington Post and

Herald: War of subversion in Iran already getting geared up

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
URL: http://www.sundayherald.com/43461 Sunday Herald - 18 July 2004 Regime change in Iran now in Bush's sights By Jenifer Johnston _ PRESIDENT George Bush has promised that if re-elected in November he will make

LAT: Cheney to be indicted over violating laws against trading w/ Iran?

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
[That would be delicious and completely deserved. The Halliburton subsidiary in Iran had its the Halliburton name on it! It's the kind of gossamer thin disguise that is used all the time to get around offshore regulations -- but which also get enforced from time to time when people decide to

Re: Loss of faith in higher education

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
test

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Paul
Doug writes: I should have added that part of the impulse behind the development of the HDI was to reduce pressure for redistribution - to shift the focus from economic to social indicators. Of course, there are virtues to foregrounding social over economic indicators, and lots of people use the

Kevin Phillips on the election

2004-07-22 Thread Dan Scanlan
How Kerry Can Win By Kevin Phillips (The Nation, July 15) -- John Kerry can win, given George W. Bush's incompetence, and White House strategists realize that. All the Democrats need to do is to peel away some of the Republican unbase -- the most wobbly members of the GOP coalition. The caveat is

Bush Family, Skull and Bones, Nazis and Eugenics (Parts 1-4)

2004-07-22 Thread Craven, Jim
Title: Message available at http://aradicalblackfoot.blogspot.com James M. Craven Blackfoot Name: Omahkohkiaayo-i'poyi Professor/Consultant,Economics;Business Division Chair Clark College, 1800 E. McLoughlin Blvd. Vancouver, WA. USA 98663 Tel: (360) 992-2283; Fax: (360) 992-2863

It's a soldier's life

2004-07-22 Thread Dan Scanlan
EDITOR'S CHOICE: JUST ADD URINE Chicken cooked in urine Sir? Food scientists have developed a dried food ration that military troops can rehydrate by adding the filthiest of muddy swamp water, or even by peeing in it. The idea is to reduce the amount of water soldiers trekking for miles have to

Re: absolute general law of capitalist accumulation

2004-07-22 Thread Waistline2
These claims about how a subjectivity willing and able to transform productive relations into rational relations are mistaken. Individuals immiserized in this way would ( not) be subjects of this kind. there is no necessity, however, for capitalism to produce immiserization. The organic

Cuba: siempre con combate

2004-07-22 Thread Diane Monaco
Louis wrote: ...it is remarkable that Cuba has climbed up into the first tier of nations. Could you imagine if the USA had a hostile neighbor to the North that was nearly 30 times the size in population and had about 500 times greater GDP and was bent on destroying our economy? The USA would

Re: Cuba: siempre con combate

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
Diane writes: I mean, even the pigs are in good shape, and there are plenty of pigs around -- on leashes no less -- as pork is a major meat source in Cuba. did you see any cats or dogs? when I was in Cuba in the late 1970s, I didn't see any of them. I was wondering if someone had decided

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/21/04 1:19 PM I think maybe I've over-interpreted your question. I seem to be going a level of specficity beyond what you're looking for. If all you meant to ask was is it useful for lefties to engage in electoral politics with some of their energies? then my answer's yes,

he's a saint...

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
Kerry's war didn't end in the Mekong Tarred as a flip-flopper by Bush, he hasn't wavered since Vietnam Sidney Blumenthal Thursday July 22, 2004 The Guardian John Kerry's political education is far deeper than that of senators who have merely legislated. He has journeyed to the heart of darkness

the Pakistani connection

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
The Pakistan connection There is evidence of foreign intelligence backing for the 9/11 hijackers. Why is the US government so keen to cover it up? Michael Meacher Thursday July 22, 2004 The Guardian Omar Sheikh, a British-born Islamist militant, is waiting to be hanged in Pakistan for a murder

Be All You Can Be

2004-07-22 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Be All You Can Be (the US military offers its personnel free cosmetic surgery -- including breast augmentations): http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/07/be-all-you-can-be.html -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/ * Greens for Nader: http://greensfornader.net/ * Bring Them

Re: he's a saint...

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
Devine, James wrote: Kerry's war didn't end in the Mekong Tarred as a flip-flopper by Bush, he hasn't wavered since Vietnam Sidney Blumenthal Thursday July 22, 2004 The Guardian In his first month as a senator, in January 1985, he discovered the thread that would unravel the Iran-contra scandal -

Re: Thomas Frank op-ed piece

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/22/04 8:26 AM I'm asking if anyone will be doing it, because it's not a new idea, and a lot of people -- from famous guys like Michael Moore to local activists -- have proposed exactly the same thing, but they never do it themselves, much less try to make it a nationwide

Bill Bowles on Ralph Nader

2004-07-22 Thread Louis Proyect
(Bill Bowles was a Tecnica volunteer who worked with the ANC.) http://www.williambowles.info/ini/ini-0252.html Book Review: Ralphs Revolt: The Case for Joining Naders Rebellion by Greg Bates [The] Progressive Policy Institute, an arm of the Democratic Leadership Council, published a 19-page

Re: Apropos Albany

2004-07-22 Thread Eugene Coyle
California is pretty bad. Gene Coyle Michael Pollak wrote: [Michael Hoover rightly pointed out that New York State's politics were worse than most other states, so people in other states might have opportunities that we in New York don't. Apropos, here's an article on a recent study that claims

Re: Herald: War of subversion in Iran already getting geared up

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Perelman
Wow. I cannot imagine karl rove thinking how that will win him votes as a campaign issue. On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 02:14:55PM -0400, Michael Pollak wrote: The official said: If George Bush is re-elected there will be much more intervention in the internal affairs of Iran. Full at:

41 million Chinese believed to have hepatitis C virus: report

2004-07-22 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
People's Daily Online Life UPDATED: 17:34, June 26, 2004 41 million Chinese believed to have hepatitis C virus: report An estimated 41 million people in China have contracted the hepatitis C virus, which could become a fatal quiet epidemic, according to Professor Xu Daozheng, a liver disease

FW: [Marxism] Fwd: Michael Moore letter to las vegas

2004-07-22 Thread Craven, Jim
From Michael Moore's letter to Las Vegas: What country do you live in? Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called The First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say.

Re: Michael Moore letter to las vegas

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
Michael Moore writes: Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called The First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as sacred. isn't

Re: Chevez and Uribe (was: oil query)

2004-07-22 Thread Robert Naiman
Sorry for the delay. Our line is that it's a Very Good Thing. First, because the anti-Chavez forces in the U.S. Administration, Miami and Caracas want to spread, without evidence, the notion that the government of Venezuela is supporting the FARC, is a threat to its neighbors, etc. So, this

Re: Greed

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
greed describes an aspect of a personality, whereas rational profit maximization is simply behavior. Economics can't deal with personality issues. It simply assumes that people are sociopaths (without the charming personality) and leaves it at that. Jim Devine [EMAIL

Re: Michael Moore letter to las vegas

2004-07-22 Thread Craven, Jim
Michael Moore writes: Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called The First Amendment. This constitutional right gives everyone here the right to say whatever they want to say. All Americans hold this right as sacred. isn't

Re: Cuba: siempre con combate

2004-07-22 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Diane Monaco wrote: Cuba IS a remarkable country Hi Diane ! Mexico is not far behind Cuba in HDI, AFAIK. Btw, 75% Singaporeans, 50% Malaysians 33% of Thais have cell phones. How many cell phones Cuba has? Ulhas Yahoo!

phones and human welfare

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
[was: RE: [PEN-L] Cuba: siempre con combate] Ulhas writes: 75% Singaporeans, 50% Malaysians 33% of Thais have cell phones. How many cell phones Cuba has? it seems to me that cell phones are at best a mixed blessing. (I have one, but I hate it: it rings when I'm driving, so I either have to

Re: Michael Moore letter to las vegas

2004-07-22 Thread Eugene Coyle
Yes, I think that would have been a better point for Moore to make. Remind people they don't have free speech at work. Gene Coyle Devine, James wrote: Michael Moore writes: Last time I checked, Las Vegas is still in the United States. And in the United States, we have something called The First

Re: phones and human welfare

2004-07-22 Thread Daniel Davies
The point I think Ulhas is driving at is the really interesting thing in those HDI statistics; Cuba has managed to achieve first world life expectancy and literacy on a GDP of just over $5k per head. I think that the next lowet on the list is close to $8k. That's the really interesting thing

Slave labour in Brazil

2004-07-22 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
The Hindu Tuesday, Jul 20, 2004 Slave labour in Brazil By Paul Brown An unpublished report for the ILO says that despite the best efforts of the Brazilian Government, slave labour continues in the country's interior. AN ESTIMATED 25,000 people are working as slave labourers in Brazil clearing

Re: phones and human welfare

2004-07-22 Thread Ulhas Joglekar
Devine, James wrote: In any event, there's no way one could reduce human welfare to either cell phones or all phones. 300 million Indians watch CTVs today, but I know there is no way one could reduce human welfare to CTVs. Ulhas

C.I.A. Plays It Safe by Accentuating the Negative

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
[An obvious point but a good one to keep in mind: there are always at least two very strong incentives toward threat assessment inflation: CYA and the drive for institutional expansion] http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/16/international/16DISPATCHES.html The New York Times July 16, 2004 DISPATCHES

Re: C.I.A. Plays It Safe by Accentuating the Negative

2004-07-22 Thread Devine, James
Michael Pollak writes: [An obvious point but a good one to keep in mind: there are always at least two very strong incentives toward threat assessment inflation: CYA and the drive for institutional expansion] speaking of threat assessment inflation, there was an ad by the Committee on the

Silence shrouds the moral abyss spawned by the war against Iraq

2004-07-22 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Vancouver Sun July 22, 2004 Silence shrouds the moral abyss spawned by the war against Iraq By Stephen Hume On what appeared to be its website last week, the British newspaper The Independent carried a four-paragraph item dated July 16. I say appeared, because who knows anymore what's real and

Re: Human Development Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Perelman
This is one of the best threads on the list for a long time. Valuable information. No acrimony. Am I dreaming? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: C.I.A. Plays It Safe by Accentuating the Negative

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, Devine, James wrote: speaking of threat assessment inflation, there was an ad by the Committee on the Present Danger in the NY TIMES yesterday. That kind of inflation is their business. some of them were called honorable as their titles. What makes someone officially

Housing prices

2004-07-22 Thread Michael Pollak
I recently read that nominal housing prices have never declined in the US since WWII. Real prices have declined three times, durind the mid and late seventies and the early 90s, but nominal prices never. Is that really true? It makes it look as if people who think they're ever-rising, rather

Re: C.I.A. Plays It Safe by Accentuating the Negative

2004-07-22 Thread Shane Mage
Jim Devine asks: ...there was an ad by the Committee on the Present Danger in the NY TIMES yesterday...some of them were called honorable as their titles. What makes someone officially honorable? When someone is introduced to me as 'the honorable' I hold fast to my wallet...Mark Twain

Re: United Nations Human Indicators Index 2004

2004-07-22 Thread soula avramidis
there is a high functional illiteracy in the US as opposed to utter illiteracy elsewhere. the difference is minute but could make a world of difference in the HDICharles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by Doug HenwoodThat was long ago, in the HDI's early days. In the first iteration,the U.S. scored