WHAT IS HAPPENING IN TURKEY?

2002-01-21 Thread Sabri Oncu
Dear All, The two messages below should give you some idea regarding the above question: http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/msg12786.html http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/msg12788.html I send these not because I am in full agreement with their respective authors but because I suffer from the exact

The question of sovereignty

2002-01-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
A full translation of this article appeared in the Turkish daily Radikal (hardly radical) newspaper. Dani Rodrik is a Turkish economist and this may have played some role in that but I think there are other reasons for this full translation. How are our Argentinean friends doing in regards to

A silly question

2002-01-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
Frieds, What are these IMO and IMHO that I keep seeing in many posts? Best, Sabri

BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, This is a call some anarchist comrades sent to the Mayday2k list. Being the only anarcho-leninist (whatever this means) I know of, I thought this would be of interest to you. Best, Sabri + Call to action: CACEROLAZO GLOBAL INTERNATIONAL CALL TO ACTION C A C E R O L

Re: Re: BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ARGENTINES

2002-01-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
That is not true Ian, I am still working on the definition. I will let both of you know when I am done! Best Sabri Whoever you want them to be :-) Ian - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 7:41 PM

Accounting Concerns

2002-01-29 Thread Sabri Oncu
Top Financial News 01/29 15:27 U.S. Stocks Fall; Tyco, Williams Drop on Accounting Concerns By Danielle Sessa New York, Jan. 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell, driving the Standard Poor's to its biggest decline since September, as investors unloaded shares of Tyco International Ltd. and

Davos/Anti-Davos

2002-01-30 Thread Sabri Oncu
Going global Jan 30th 2002 From The Economist Global Agenda The 32nd meeting of the World Economic Forum is being held in New York this week. But the annual schmoozing session favoured by politicians and businessmen has a new rival: the second meeting of the anti-globalisation movement in

Re: RE: Re: value and morality

2002-02-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
Marx seemed to try to avoid moralism in Capital, but sometimes he let his moral outrage creep in even though that violated his methodological principles. I alway found his notion that capitalist were merely the charactermasks of capital very attractive. Very much like Bertold Brecht, he

Re: What is profit?

2002-02-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
I received this from a friend who scanned it from his highschool english book entitled Reader's Digest. We both graduated from highschool in 1979 so the book must have been published before that. This story is from the 6th and last volume of that book. The book was nothing but a collection of

Intervention In Iraq?

2002-02-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
' Intervention In Iraq ' Claims Of New York Times ANKARA, Feb 1 (A.A) - National Defense Minister Sabahattin Cakmakoglu, speaking about the allegations of New York Times journalist William Safire that the Turkish tanks would intervene in Iraq together with the U.S. special teams, said, ''I don't

Re: Re: RE: Re: value and morality

2002-02-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sir Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marx argued critique of civil society, not on basis of some morality. Below is my critique on Zizek,etc. based on Marx's critique of fetishism Miyachi San, Thank you very much for sharing your critique on Zizek with me. I have not read it as yet

U.S. Told It Shouldn't Act Alone

2002-02-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
Top World News 02/03 10:16 U.S. Told It Shouldn't Act Alone in Terrorism Fight (Update1) By Andreas Cremer Munich, Feb. 3 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President George W. Bush shouldn't take unilateral action to expand the war on global terrorism and should act only within the North Atlantic Treaty

Saudi Willing to Help U.S. Oust Saddam

2002-02-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
Saudi Willing to Help U.S. Oust Saddam - Prince Sun Feb 3, 7:24 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia would work closely with the United States if it tried to foment revolution against President Saddam Hussein inside Iraq, a leading Saudi prince said on Sunday. We believe the way to go is

Argentina

2002-02-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
Top Financial News 02/03 18:03 Argentina to Let Peso Float Against Dollar, Print 3.5 Bln Pesos By Helen Murphy Buenos Aires, Feb. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Argentina let its currency float against the dollar and will convert all bank deposits and loans into pesos in a bid to prevent a collapse of the

Re: Intervention In Iraq?

2002-02-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael Pollak wrote: So I'm not saying it's impossible we might be contemplating such a plan. But I wouldn't take it seriously unless someone other than Safire starts saying it. Whenever Safire says something of this sort, almost all Turkish newspapers make it a headline. Well, maybe I

Re: value and price: a dissenting note

2002-02-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael wrote: Suppose that you are looking at the value circulating in the economy today. How would you value the constant capital values found in the commodities produced? That will depend on whether the constant capital will turnover in 1 year or 10 years. Michael, I don't think not

Re: Re: Intervention In Iraq?

2002-02-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael Pollak: But seriously, Sabri -- is there is a chance in hell that the Turkish military will ever enter a war on the same side as the Kurds of Northern Iraq? Everyone knows the Kurds have been obsessively single-minded about wanting an independent Kurdistan for at least a century.

Re: LOV and LTV

2002-02-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
Chris wrote: The statement about the law of value of commodities in Ch XIV Section 4 goes on to say But this constant tendency to equlibirum ... is exercised only in the shape of a reaction against the constant upsetting of this equilbrium. This to my mind makes it sound much more like a

My favorite economist

2002-02-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
Rate of Return 02/01 17:27 Morgan Stanley's Roach Says Recession to Last: Rates of Return By Heather Bandur New York, Feb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Rising consumer confidence, falling unemployment and a pickup in manufacturing have many Wall Street economists saying the U.S. economy is on the verge of

Bits and pieces on Iraq

2002-02-07 Thread Sabri Oncu
Powell tells Congress there must be regime change in Iraq Thu Feb 7,10:29 AM ET WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Colin Powell says the United States might have to act alone to bring about a regime change in Iraq. Powell told House members Wednesday that President George W. Bush is considering

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: : Premises, Circularities

2002-02-07 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug wrote: As is always the case with these debates, I can't resist the urge to ask - so what? Why is the value controversy so important? Why is it so important for Justin to reject it and Rakesh to defend it? This is highly correlated with the question I was asking to myself Doug: What

Re: Oh those MBA's

2002-02-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
From Ian's quote: [Skillings] has an MBA from Harvard, said Showers, who is the primary supporter of her husband, a disabled schoolteacher. He's knowledgeable. ... I have serious doubts about this lady's accusations about Skillings. After working with so many MBAs for so many years, I find

Re: Britain challenges Iran

2002-02-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
Chris wrote: What this is doing, no doubt in coordination with liberal forces in Iran sympathetic to the agenda of Empire, is to force a confrontation with the muslim nationalist clergy. Presumably they reckon they will win, but it may be difficult. In the wake of the Afghanistan war,

Re: Re: Britain challenges Iran

2002-02-09 Thread Sabri Oncu
Hi Sabri Please could you give me the reference (date + time or subject line) for the post in which you best summarised your arguments as to why you think my approach is not relevant? I never said that your approach is not relevant. All I said was that we don't know whether there exists an

Re: Enron and California: The Smoking Gun?

2002-02-12 Thread Sabri Oncu
Rakesh wrote: I know VC firms are sitting on a $100bn or so, but I wouldn't think they'd like to see it go to covering enormous legal costs of their start ups. But hell what else are they going to do with it--create another NASDAQ bubble though led this time by biotech and medical equipment

Reluctant Imperialism

2002-02-12 Thread Sabri Oncu
From the Guardian article Jim sent: Yet still the armchair warriors who supported their bombing of Afghanistan cannot understand that these people now present a threat not just to terrorism but to the world. Below is an article by someone who identifies himself as a member of the war party.

Re: O Joy -- another sign of recovery

2002-02-13 Thread Sabri Oncu
Hi Doug, Do you have any recent statistics on business spending? I expect some improvement but haven't seen any recent numbers yet. I would appreciate it if you send some info. Sabri

Re: Re: Re: O Joy -- another sign of recovery

2002-02-13 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug wrote: The weight of the evidence is that the U.S. economy is troughing, or did bottom out around December. This could be a false bottom, a pause before another downleg; the recovery could be weak, and might feel little different from recession. But there's not much point in ignoring

RE: Re: O Joy -- another sign of recovery

2002-02-13 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jim wrote: we should remember that the rise of the US real GDP during the last quarter of 2001 was only according to the advance estimate. This estimate will be changed, though we don't know which direction it will go. -- Jim D. Revisions are always an issue. But there are also the

Re: RE: Re: O Joy -- another sign of recovery

2002-02-13 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug wrote: Yes they move markets, but sometimes for as little as 2 minutes. Anything moves markets. Markets move on their own, and people select reasons after the fact. Doug, Markets are people, aren't they? Sabri

RE: Re: O Joy -- another sign of recovery

2002-02-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug wrote: Yup, people assembled in the functional equivalent of a mob. Each trying to get a jump on the other without straying too far from the consensus. Given to herd behavior, sudden shifts of opinion, overreaction followed by reversals. And the latest piece of news is usually the

Re: foreign currency issues

2002-02-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
(or to what's the name of that European currency...? ;-)) Jim Devine Jim, It is called Yumosh in Tahta Kale, the currency market in Istanbul, which looks more like a bazaar with street vendors than anything else. Except that these street vendors are trading currencies. By the way, Yumosh is

RE: Re: foreign currency issues

2002-02-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
By the way, Yumosh is a cute name usually given to new born kittens and it means soft, like a ball of wool. Sabri does that mean that the Euro will grow into a large, lazy, and hungry cat that sleeps most of the time while not attracting fleas or scratching them? Jim Jim, I was going

Fwd: Re: Diversionary tactics

2002-02-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
While we are at this cats issue Jim, I don't usually forward e-mails from one list to another without removing the names but like PEN-L, WSN is also open to public and anyone can browse the archives. This is a contribution from a friend to an ongoing discussion. If anyone wants to respond,

Re: Re: Where's the beef?

2002-02-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael: Please let's stop this. It is going nowhere but downhill. I second Michael. Also keep in mind that there are people from around the world watching this list and I don't think you would be doing a favor neither to them nor to yourselves by continuing this fight here. Sabri

Re: On the necessity of socialism

2002-02-21 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, I have been away from the net for a while and now that I am back I see that in my absence you had sucessfully resolved many of the important issues, including the issue of politeness (Oh Boy! Am I glad or what?), and see that we are sailing through the very important issue of the

Re: Re: On the necessity of socialism

2002-02-21 Thread Sabri Oncu
Um, as soon as we can figure out whether God does or does not exist... Ian My dear Ian, This problem is not that difficult. I solved it when I was 14. I realized that there was no difference between believing in the existence or non-existence of God. Both were believes, and for no

Economists vs CEOs

2002-02-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
Recovery Signs Don't Include CEOs By Michael McKee Washington, Feb. 22 (Bloomberg) -- While economists are looking for a more rapid U.S. recovery than they were a month ago, chief executives at Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Dell Computer Corp., Eaton Corp. and most of the biggest companies don't see

Re: Krugman Komes Around

2002-02-22 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug wrote: Devine, James wrote: Of course, we also have to remember Sabri's L scenario. Hey, if we're talking intellectual property, this is what I wrote last May. Friends, I have not paid any attention to PEN-L until late in the afternoon and look what happened. It is not good to talk

Re: Re: Re: On the necessity of socialism

2002-02-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Miyachi wrote: Most important is that Marx tried firstly to prove ability of working class to destroy civil society, not tried to explain economical phenomena from without. In Japan, from pre-war to 1960', Marxists focused mainly market analysis modeled after Stalin's dogma. Its

Re: Dallas Smythe student

2002-02-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
From the article Gene sent: When intellectuals talk among themselves, they talk in a way that is impossible for a general audience to understand, he says. They may be talking about great things, but they're in an intellectual alley. Unless we talk to that kid, we're just hanging out with

The dying dinosaur's huge tail

2002-02-24 Thread Sabri Oncu
I became aware of the below article through a reference to it in a powerful analysis of the ongoing world historical turbulence by my friend Ergin Yildizoglu in today's Turkish daily Cumhuriyet. I wish you knew Turkish to read his article. The one below is not that powerful but interesting.

Re: Re: Re: Re: On the necessity of socialism

2002-02-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Socialism is necessary in the sense in which food is necessary: not as something which will be but as something that must be if we are to survive. It is pure religiosity to claim that socialism _will_ come; it is close to self-evident that unless it comes we will plunge ever deeper into

Re: Dallas Smythe student

2002-02-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael wrote: Slanderous lies. PEN-L has a strict fashion code, and my makeup is impecable. Hey, I know a business professor here at UC Berkeley who recently dyed his hair purple. Should we invite him to this list? He is quite a nice and extremely clever fellow from Israel who is opposed

Re: Dallas Smythe student

2002-02-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Carrol, Do you see what I mean? economists receiving Nobel Price since he ... You have serious spelling problems with this language and you better do something about it. Moreover, what is this calling what everybody else calls football soccer, what everybody else calls wrestling football and

Re: what is happening

2002-02-26 Thread Sabri Oncu
Face it, Michael - economics is boring. Even economists would rather discuss almost anything else. Doug Doug, Sorry but this time we found something to disagree. I think economics is very interesting. Not neoclassical economics though. There I agree with you: I know enough to say that it

South Korean Strike

2002-02-27 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, It is worth paying attention to this strike in South Korea. Below is an Associated Press article on the strike. According to KCTU (Korean Confederation of Trade Unions, I think), at some point there were about 200,000 workers participating in the strike. Are there any Koreans on this

FW:Sri Lankan call for peace and against globalisation

2002-02-27 Thread Sabri Oncu
Just received this. Sabri -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: [pga] Sri Lankan call for peace and against globalisation Friends, I am forwarding this important call and statement from our friends of MONLAR in SRI LANKA, where for the first time in

FW: CEO Compensation

2002-02-28 Thread Sabri Oncu
Some useful information. Sabri + Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: CEO Compensation Check this out... but make sure you have not eaten before... CEO Compensation Index by Company

RE: Productive Forces

2002-02-28 Thread Sabri Oncu
But Charles' point raises an idea I've not thought of before--which likely has been well-discussed by those more knowledgeable than me: to what extent did Karl M. get his ideas about productive forces from the ideas of physics then current in Europe? The notion of force (as used in physics)

FW: [pga-org] Getting Serious about an anti-FTAA Strategy

2002-03-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
FYI. Sabri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of la C.L.A.C. Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [pga-org] Getting Serious about an anti-FTAA Strategy a thoughtful e-mail that gets us thinking about

Some questions

2002-03-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael wrote: Recasting Marx in algebraic, mathematical, or precise numerical form, seems a bit foreign to his overall project, which his understanding the nature of capitalist society and the weaknesses that will lead to the creation of a socialist state. Let us assume for a while that

RE: Some questions

2002-03-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael wrote: Sabri, Marx's theory in question here is about value -- a form of social relations peculiar to capitalism. As such, it would not have relevance under socialism. I agree. This is why I said: Wouldn't we still need Marxian or _otherwise_ economic models, ? By the way Jim,

Re: Re: Some questions

2002-03-01 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sweezy saw the premise that economic science would exist under socialism as the ideological basis of authoritarian socialism. Supposedly production will be for use, and productive choices will be made politically. That can't be reduced to a science. (I think I've botched up the argument

Yine Arjantin

2002-03-02 Thread Sabri Oncu
AP. 1 March 2002. Unemployed Protest in Argentina. BUENOS AIRES -- More than 1,000 unemployed Argentines marched in Buenos Aires to demand jobs Friday as lawmakers continued debate on a recovery plan for the battered economy. It's been months since I've held money in my hands, said one of the

Re:Yine Arjantin

2002-03-02 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sorry about this message, I was sending it to a Turkish friend, somehow it ended up here. I guess I became too attached to PEN-L. Sabri

Re: Some questions

2002-03-02 Thread Sabri Oncu
Gil writes: Sabri writes, among other things, P.S: I looked at Roemer's Analytical foundations of Marxian economic theory but was not particularly impressed. It looks like Varian's Microeconomic analysis. By the way, Varian is definitely better than Roemer when it comes to using TeX, that

Re: RE: Re: forces of production

2002-03-03 Thread Sabri Oncu
Greg: Sorry all - my sad idea of a joke. Hey, I understood what you meant and particularly liked this part: Of course you need to divide the product by N (Consumption Needs) but I don't know how to do this in an email. Let me reciprocate with a joke my son made when he was four: Every

Re: A role for static analysis?

2002-03-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
Whether or not that's a sufficient condition to be not impressed with a work in political economy is a judgment call, of course. I'm certainly not insisting one must be impressed by Roemer's work. But there exist many very insightful contributions to the understanding of capitalism that

Re: Re: Re: Wade vs Wolf

2002-03-04 Thread Sabri Oncu
the same questions apply. I know growth is so much less fun than crisis, but maybe a few words... Doug Hi Doug, Let me ask you a direct question: Is it your point that capitalism is not as bad a system as some of us here think it is? Sabri

Korean rail union leaders arrested

2002-03-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
http://www.itf.org.uk/solidarity/040302.htm SOLIDARITY ACTION To all ITF affiliated unions Monday/04/03/2002 Korean rail union leaders arrested Dear colleagues, At least ten leaders and members of the ITF-affiliated Korean Railway Workers' Union have been arrested. The President, Kim

Re: Yen still overvalued

2002-03-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
Hi Charles, There used to be a speculation that Japanese banks may repatriate overseas funds to write off a part of their bad loans before they close their fiscal year account at the end of this month. Can you comment on the likelihood of this and its possible effects? Sabri

Re: Re: Re: Re: Wade vs Wolf

2002-03-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
that struggle was. Sabri + Sabri Oncu wrote: Let me ask you a direct question: Is it your point that capitalism is not as bad a system as some of us here think it is? It's awful, but I guess it beats slavery or feudalism. But it's also a deeply contradictory system, producing

S. Korea reaffirms privatizations despite strikes

2002-03-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
From: www.thedeal.com Updated 01:30 PM EST, Mar-4-2002 S. Korea reaffirms privatizations despite strikes by Gina Chon Posted 11:48 AM EST, Mar-4-2002 SEOUL — Despite days of labor protests, the South Korean government said March 4 it must move forward with restructuring plans for the public

Letter from Prisoner Number 77

2002-03-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
January 28, 2002 - --- Letter from Seoul Prison, Dan Byung-ho, Prisoner Number 77 Dear brothers and sisters across the world, I am deeply moved by your action. Your solidarity has burned through the cold cement walls

Nigeria goes for homegrown alternative

2002-03-06 Thread Sabri Oncu
IMF Endorses Nigeria Decision Wed Mar 6, 5:19 PM ET By GILBERT DA COSTA, Associated Press Writer ABUJA, Nigeria (AP) - The International Monetary Fund (news - web sites) endorsed Wednesday Nigeria's decision to pull out of an informal monitoring arrangement with the fund, citing the troubled

FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-07 Thread Sabri Oncu
Well, Apparently, you progressive economists got it all wrong. It is the IQ stupid. Sabri -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bell-curve racism for

Re: no more free stuff?

2002-03-07 Thread Sabri Oncu
From: Ian Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... As part of a redesign of its Web site, FinancialTimes.com plans to ask users to pay as much as $140 annually for access to its best content, including detailed analyses and reports on particular industries and countries. Well, good luck to them. IMO, the

Re: FW: Bell-curve racism for nations

2002-03-07 Thread Sabri Oncu
Michael writes: Sabri, please be more respectful of Dr. Rushton. He will probably win the Nobel Prize or even imortatlity, I believe, for having discovered the inverse relation between IQ and penis size. Hey, I always wondered why my IQ is so low. Now I know!.. Sabri

Re: Re: no more free stuff?

2002-03-07 Thread Sabri Oncu
I think the Wall Street Journal leaves the FT in the dust, and I suspect I'm not alone. The WSJ is about the only major publication that has charged for online access to its content right along and apparently has had no problem getting people to pay up. Carl Well Carl, You should know

Dervis on Turkey

2002-03-08 Thread Sabri Oncu
Dervis: Turkey's Successful Foreign Policy And Its Strong Economic Program Helped It Overcome The Economic Crisis OXFORD, March 7 (A.A) - State Minister Kemal Dervis has said that Turkey's successful foreign policy following Sept.11 attacks and the strong economic program helped it overcome the

FW: Reply to Islamic State Discussion

2002-03-09 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, This is a post to WSN from someone I was planning to meet when I was in Turkey but we couldn't get together because of some "technical difficulties". Hopefully next time. His English is not perfect, but hey, neither is mine. Isuspect that with "revaluations" below he means

Fwd: Request for information on anti-terrorist laws

2002-03-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
From: Nicola Bullard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Focus on the Global South Reply-To: Nicola Bullard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:44:57 +0700 To: Subject: DEBATE: Request for information on anti-terrorist laws Dear Friends and Colleagues, Greetings from Bangkok. As you know,

Re: Re: Dervis on Turkey

2002-03-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
As a follow-up to Michael's question, I'd like to know the specifics of Turkey's economic program, and its results so far. If there is somewhere on the web I should check this out, please provide urls. Many thanks, Alan Hi Alan, Sorry, couldn't have a chance to check the PEN-L website

Re: capitalism's predictability.

2002-03-10 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jim writes: (1) Capitalism is fundamentally unpredictable, but I would say that there's some predictability to it nonetheless. It's like with the law of large numbers: even though individual actions are almost impossible to predict,the average can be predictable. I think it is more than

FW: [pga] FW: 1 - News from israel-palestine

2002-03-11 Thread Sabri Oncu
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 6:20 PM To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: 1 - News from israel-palestine Hello to all, I hope you are well. i took a short jaunt through some major internet media sources today, from

Re: Re: Dervis on Turkey

2002-03-11 Thread Sabri Oncu
Hi Alan, This is the webpage of Turkish Prime Ministry State Planning Organization website: http://www.dpt.gov.tr/dptweb/ingin.html This one is the Turkish Treasury page: http://www.treasury.gov.tr/indexe.htm If you need more information, just let me know. Sabri

Crude Oil Rises as Concern of U.S. Attack on Iraq Increases

2002-03-11 Thread Sabri Oncu
Top Financial News 03/11 12:55 Crude Oil Rises as Concern of U.S. Attack on Iraq Increases By Mark Shenk New York, March 11 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil rose 3 percent after Iraq said it will bar United Nations arms inspectors, raising concern that the U.S. might use military force against the

Re: Re: Re: The Incomplet Recession

2002-03-11 Thread Sabri Oncu
Doug, Thanks for deliberately keeping quiet. Let me tell you that I am not coping with the US recovery that well and my wife's teasing me doesn't help either. However, as far as I am concerned, we Turks are still in depression, so it helps. Yet the revolution is not coming. Damn. Joking aside,

Re: Re: Re: The Incomplet Recession

2002-03-11 Thread Sabri Oncu
among Kurds could have a toxic spillover into Turkey. But he says the U.S. is talking about giving Turkey some Iraqi oilwells to sweeten the pot. What do you think? Doug This is what I have been saying too. It is just a guess though, as such negotiations take place behind closed doors.

Re: Stock Market Prices

2002-03-13 Thread Sabri Oncu
Does anyone know where can I find FREE data on _historical_ stock market prices? That is, for both individual stocks and variable aggregates (like DJ Industrial average). I know of CRSP(http://gsbwww.uchicago.edu/research/crsp/), but they charge $1,000 for their data. Dogs. Thanks for

Andersen

2002-03-14 Thread Sabri Oncu
I am quite curious to know whether they will start offering courses on shredding in the accounting departments of the business schools? Sabri P.S: This joke belongs to someone else, who is on this list, so I acknowledge his priority. Top Financial News 03/14 15:57 Andersen Is

Re: LETTERS TO THE EDITOR: Mystery of about-turn on

2002-03-14 Thread Sabri Oncu
From the letter Charles sent: Also, it must be noted that suggesting a foreign board of central bankers to control monetary policy, and another foreign board to verify fiscal performance, is tantamount to suggesting colonisation of Argentina by foreign agents. The question then is whether

RE: Andersen

2002-03-14 Thread Sabri Oncu
this reminds me: it's been reported that the Anderson/Enron [Anderon?Enderson?] scandals have made accounting a sexier and thus more popular college major. Jim D. Jim, This is for sure. A friend, who is a professor of accounting at Stanford, told me that there was a 40% increase in

RE: Andersen

2002-03-14 Thread Sabri Oncu
Interesting, isn't it? If Andersen goes down, there will be less competition and less incentive among the remaining four, say our lovely commentators at the Economist. So, we better save Andersen to save competition, I say. Moreover, my sister-in-law works there. Why is it that there are just

RE: Venezuela: Next Chile?

2002-03-14 Thread Sabri Oncu
they actually said they’d support a “transitional government”? Jim D. I don't think so. Most likely they said, a transnational government, global government, global governance, Empire, what have you? Sabri

We are proud to be dinosaurs

2002-03-15 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, For those of you who are interested in some facts, numbers and research articles on the Turkish Crisis and more, I proudly present the webpage of another dinosaur from my country. This is what they call us back there. Here is the web address and there are several articles in English

RE: We are proud to be dinosaurs

2002-03-16 Thread Sabri Oncu
Good site, Sabri! Do I remember you saying you'd named your kiddie Deniz after a famous rebel? Was that the fella the military government knocked off in the early seventies? Someone I met in Turkey talked about him and his equally ill-fated comrades. But he talked so much for so long

RE: RE: We are proud to be dinosaurs

2002-03-18 Thread Sabri Oncu
The poor fellow already has an impossible last name to pronounce for English speakers: Öncü. Why don't you give it a try? Oncyurr? Enchway? Ownkwer? gimme some help here in return I'm prepared to give a few tips on Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyndrobwllantisliogogogoch :) dd Good job

FW: [pga] Ecuador - Spain - USA - Growing Stronger Together!

2002-03-18 Thread Sabri Oncu
From: Globalize the Struggle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [pga] Ecuador - Spain - USA - Growing Stronger Together! Organizers of the protest actions against the EU summit in Barcelona, the summit of the ministers of defence in

Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jim writes: I am told that Alfred Nobel's wife had an affair with a mathematician, so that when the inventor of dynamite decided to endow his famous Prize, he specifically stated that mathematicians shouldn't get rewarded. But the historically more recent invention of the Nobel in

Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
Justin writes: But Nash Harsanyi made real contributions to economics. There is a Nobel in math, the Field Prize. jks Let us not forget John von Neumann. Although politically he was on the other side and hence is not someone I like, he is my hero of all times. I cannot imagine a more

Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
Let us not forget John von Neumann. Although politically he was on the other side and hence is not someone I like, he is my hero of all times. I cannot imagine a more prolific mathematician than von Neumann. Almost on all topics of applied mathematics and beyond, you see an important

FW: CHINA - LABOR UNREST

2002-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, Also see these: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/19/international/asia/19CHIN.html http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/020318/china_model_of_despair_1.html http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nm/20020318/wl_nm/ china_protest_dc_2 And there are more at yahoo. Sabri ++ China:

Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
You people are lucky my friends, It is possible for you to talk about kicking corporations off university property. Most significant Turkish universities are owned by corporations: like Koc University (Koc Holding, in Forbes 500) or Sabanci University (Sabanci Holding, in Forbes 500); just as

Re: UK majority against attack on Iraq

2002-03-19 Thread Sabri Oncu
Mine writes: am i wrong in assuming that Burford always finds a tricky way to apologize imperialism? This is not my reading of Chris, Mine. I have no doubts about Chris' sincerity. He is as concerned as the rest of us, in my opinion, of course. What we don't agree with him is his solution,

Re: UK majority against attack on Iraq

2002-03-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
Sorry about that, Apparently, I dialed the wrong number. Does anyone know anything about the signs of the Alzheimer disease? Sabri

Bunker-busting mini-nukes

2002-03-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
US plans bunker-busting 'mini-nuke' By Gay Alcorn, United States Correspondent, The Age March 20 2002 The Bush administration will begin work on new bunker-busting nuclear weapons next month, signalling a dramatically different American approach to nuclear strategy. The White House, while

Re: Re: Nobel Prize

2002-03-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
Friends, I am working on a book on recent Third World experiences of great depressions induced by debt-deflation processes induced by financial liberalization policies-cum-exchange-rate-anti- inflation-nominal-anchors. The whole point is to show how benefitial have been and continue to

Re: New Democratic World

2002-03-20 Thread Sabri Oncu
Chris writes: Therefore as far as world politics are concerned, I am probably essentially calling for a sort of new democracy, which involves progressive class alliances, ie a national democratic stage which ideally would not be dominated by the progressive bourgeoisie. Concrete world

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