Re: cascading used-by metrics on CPANTS?

2010-08-10 Thread David Cantrell
would be useful on the used_by pages on CPANTS. AFAIK CPANTS is pretty much dead. Which is why I implemented this as part of CPANdeps: http://deps.cpantesters.org/depended-on-by.pl?dist=Scalar-List-Utils-1.23 of course, it still only goes one level deep, and it's a nasty crude hack, but patches

cascading used-by metrics on CPANTS?

2010-08-09 Thread David Nicol
I was a little surprised that when module A is used by module B and module B is used by modules C,D,E,F,G there is no indication of the requirement by C,D,E,F,G on http://cpants.perl.org/dist/used_by/A I think a cascading use list would be useful on the used_by pages on CPANTS.

Re: looking for CPANTS (co-) maintainers

2009-07-02 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 29 June 2009 23:03:00 Thomas Klausner wrote: Hi! See over there: http://use.perl.org/~domm/journal/39189 Hi Thomas! Is this the reason that CPANTS was out-of-date for a long time? It seemed better yesterday, though. Regards, Shlomi Fish

looking for CPANTS (co-) maintainers

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! See over there: http://use.perl.org/~domm/journal/39189 -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$-gprint$_.$/}

CPANTS not updating some modules?

2009-02-10 Thread Marc Lucksch
The update for some of my modules seems lost somehow Dotiac: Still 0.5, but 0.8_1 is the latest Dotiac-addon-html_template is missing completely. Is this an error on my part, or is there a bug somewhere? Marc Maluku Lucksch

Getting CPANTS to update?

2009-02-10 Thread Marc Lucksch
I fear I have done something to CPANTS with my Dotiac::DTL module, the version counter doesn't increase anymore. It is still set to 0.5 (http://cpants.perl.org/dist/overview/Dotiac), even though 0.8 is already out. Is this an error on my part, or do I just have to wait? Sincerely yours, Marc

Re: CPANTS not updating some modules?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:31:28AM +0100, Marc Lucksch wrote: The update for some of my modules seems lost somehow Dotiac: Still 0.5, but 0.8_1 is the latest Dotiac-addon-html_template is missing completely. Is this an error on my part, or is there a bug somewhere? Very likely a bug

Re: Getting CPANTS to update?

2009-02-10 Thread Marc Lucksch
Marc Lucksch schrieb: I fear I have done something to CPANTS with my Dotiac::DTL module, the version counter doesn't increase anymore. It is still set to 0.5 (http://cpants.perl.org/dist/overview/Dotiac), even though 0.8 is already out. Is this an error on my part, or do I just have to wait

Module::CPANTS::Analyse has_test_pod fails on my module but it has pod tests

2008-09-23 Thread Martin Evans
Hi, I have recently been taking more notice of CPANTS and made some changes to DBD::ODBC to get more kwalitee. I'm basically getting a fail on has_test_pod (http://cpants.perl.org/dist/kwalitee/DBD-ODBC) which I've duplicated myself with Module::CPANTS::Analyse. However, I have a pod test

CPANTS has_example metric confusion

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Fenwick
G'day Perl-QA, I'm afraid I'm rather confused about the CPANTS has_example metric. The remedy is listed as: Add a directory matching the regex (bin|scripts?|ex|eg|examples?| samples?|demos?) ... to your distribution that includes some scripts showing one or more use

Re: CPANTS has_example metric confusion

2008-07-18 Thread David Golden
I believe you actually need to put a file into it and include it in the MANIFEST, otherwise, an empty directory doesn't get included in the distribution. David On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Paul Fenwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day Perl-QA, I'm afraid I'm rather confused about the CPANTS

Re: CPANTS has_example metric confusion

2008-07-18 Thread Paul Fenwick
David Golden wrote: I believe you actually need to put a file into it and include it in the MANIFEST, otherwise, an empty directory doesn't get included in the distribution. Sorry, I should have mentioned that it: 1) Is in the MANIFEST 2) Is in the distribution 3)

The Definitive CPANTs Summary

2008-07-01 Thread Ovid
He's what I saw in the thread. 1. CPANTs was not only fun, but it was (and is) helpful. 2. Non-kwalitee metrics crept in. 3. Some people are upset about gaming. 4. Some people love gaming. 5. Many people can reasonably disagree on what value means. Too many people (including me!) forget

Re: The Definitive CPANTs Summary

2008-07-01 Thread Andy Lester
On Jul 1, 2008, at 3:29 AM, Ovid wrote: 1. CPANTs was not only fun, but it was (and is) helpful. 2. Non-kwalitee metrics crept in. 3. Some people are upset about gaming. 4. Some people love gaming. 5. Many people can reasonably disagree on what value means. Note that nowhere in here

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sending this to both the module-authors list so you can be aware of the new metrics and the perl-qa list as they might have a few words as well

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM, brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see the metircs that only talk about the quality of the distribution, and leave everything else alone. If it's something I can fix by doing something to the distribution itself, measure it. If it's anything

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
. :) Given that CPANTS has been discussed as a tool to help authors write better dists, I think this is a very, very good suggestion. Gathering other information is great. I'd like to know if there Debian is packaging my code. It just isn't as much about your code seems to be well-produced

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
to the distribution itself, measure it. If it's anything else, leave it out. :) Given that CPANTS has been discussed as a tool to help authors write better dists, I think this is a very, very good suggestion. Gathering other information is great. I'd like to know if there Debian is packaging my

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Paul Fenwick
metrics continue to measure things an author can reasonably fix, and end-developers using CPANTS for research won't be turned off by a large number of red 'optional metrics' from an otherwise excellent module. Cheerio, Paul -- Paul Fenwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://perltraining.com.au

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-10 Thread Gabor Szabo
to measure things an author can reasonably fix, and end-developers using CPANTS for research won't be turned off by a large number of red 'optional metrics' from an otherwise excellent module. Sounds like a good idea! We were also thinking with Thomas on how to mark the other 3 debian related

New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-09 Thread Gabor Szabo
Two days ago or so I posted a blog entry about the new CPANTS metrics. http://szabgab.com/blog/2008/06/1212827982.html I am glad that already there are some comments about them even if both chromatic and Andy Lester are well, slightly against them and even Ovid did not like the Test::NoWarnings

Re: New CPANTS metrics

2008-06-09 Thread David Golden
the effort that goes into developing new Kwalitee metrics -- however, I think that many ideas wind up less interesting or relevant than initially thought. I think that too many measures of little interest will lead authors to ignore CPANTS rather than optimize against it. That may be a feature

CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Paul Fenwick
G'day QA folks, I'm gaming my CPANTS quality scores a little, and I've found one of the optional metrics has given me an odd result. The 'has_separate_license_file' test returns 'not ok' on: http://cpants.perl.org/dist/kwalitee/IPC-System-Simple However, IPC-System-Simple *does

Re: CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Paul Fenwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day QA folks, I'm gaming my CPANTS quality scores a little, and I've found one of the optional metrics has given me an odd result. The 'has_separate_license_file' test returns 'not ok' on: http://cpants.perl.org

Re: CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 03:55:38PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: Is CPANTS looking for something special inside the LICENSE file? The currently running version of CPANTS has that bug. I think I have fixed that already in the SVN we just have to wait till Thomas has some time to upgrade

Re: CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Jerome Quelin
On 08/06/03 15:55 +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Paul Fenwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 'has_separate_license_file' test returns 'not ok' on: http://cpants.perl.org/dist/kwalitee/IPC-System-Simple [...] Is CPANTS looking for something special inside

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-22 Thread James E Keenan
Thomas Klausner wrote: which wasn't proof-read by any english speaking person yet, so if @you want to: patches welcome ;-) s/not longer dreadlocked/no longer dreadlocked/

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:52:09AM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-19 09:25]: While I was away last week (snowboarding..) Do you ever do any actual work, Thomas? :-P Yes, I do! Here's proof: http://revdev.at (the very fresh (we finally

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:34:15PM -0800, Randy J. Ray wrote: information. Just a little while ago, I checked the CPANTS site and noticed I had a crapload of red marks, almost all of which are wrong (one of the two dists doesn't have LICENSE sections in pod, or a LICENSE file). But I'm

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: While I was away last week (snowboarding..) CPANTS seems to have acquired yet another bug. As soon as I have some free time (maybe tomorrow, but at the latest this weekend during FOSDEM) I'll take a look. It seems

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Randy J. Ray
While I was away last week (snowboarding..) CPANTS seems to have acquired yet another bug. As soon as I have some free time (maybe tomorrow, but at the latest this weekend during FOSDEM) I'll take a look. In the meantime: patches welcome :-) (and comit bits are easily obtainable too

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-18 Thread David Golden
On Feb 18, 2008 5:34 PM, Randy J. Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This, combined with the fact that most or all of the other red flags seem to be centered around file issues, leads me to suspect that maybe whatever area the distros are being un-tarred into is having disk issues? If you look at

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-18 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Randy J. Ray a écrit : I've only taken a cursory look at the internals of the Module::CPANTS::Analyze code, but I noticed that if there is neither Build.PL or Makefile.PL, you can still trigger an executable build file flag-- line 101 of Module::CPANTS::Kwalitee::Files.pm uses the same

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-18 Thread Randy J. Ray
If you have already installed Module::CPANTS::Analyse, then you can use the cpants_lint script to locally check the CPANTS metrics of your distribution before uploading. This makes the game *much* easier ;-) Handy to know :-). In this case, however, I had just browsed the source code

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-12-18 Thread Ask Solem Hoel
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:47 PM, David Cantrell wrote: Does the metric include modules used in the test suite? I write my test suites to deal gracefully with missing Test modules. Most people don't, unfortunately. Then CPAN testers will catch it. I don't see how adding author test

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-22 Thread David Landgren
, because some modules live in strange dists (e.g. HTTP::Request - libwww-perl) and some modules are in Core (I'll check this with Module::CoreList). The first implementation 'simply' selects all distinct dists from all modules (of which CPANTS know which dist they are in..) used in a dist

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-22 Thread Matisse Enzer
Is the code for implementing this metric available now? I'm interested in using it to create a utility that generates the appropriate entries in a form suitable for use in Build.PL and Makefile.PL format. --- Matisse Enzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-20 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 03:03:51PM -0800, chromatic wrote: On Monday 19 November 2007 14:30:51 Jonathan Rockway wrote: I think the real solution, though, is to agree that the perl interpreter without all of the core modules installed isn't Perl.  (I'm not a big fan of core modules, but

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-20 Thread David Cantrell
On Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:47:57PM -0800, Matisse Enzer wrote: On Nov 15, 2007, at 8:04 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: So in order to make everything work robustly, distros should explicitly list every single module they explicitly use ? no shortcuts, no implications. basically, I agree completely,

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-20 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 04:30:51PM -0600, Jonathan Rockway wrote: I've been yelled at in bug reports and on IRC for adding core modules as prereqs So close the bugs with no bug found and /ignore the twits on irc. -- David Cantrell | Godless Liberal Elitist The Law of Daves: in any

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-19 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 18:51 -0800, Matisse Enzer wrote: On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: Even if it's in the perl core, the developer may have compiled with -Dnoextensions=Encode In such a case Encode is not present. I have skipped Encode many times because

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-19 Thread chromatic
On Monday 19 November 2007 14:30:51 Jonathan Rockway wrote: I think the real solution, though, is to agree that the perl interpreter without all of the core modules installed isn't Perl.  (I'm not a big fan of core modules, but the concept is especially worthless if you can't depend on their

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-18 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:47:57 -0800, Matisse Enzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Nov 15, 2007, at 8:04 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: So in order to make everything work robustly, distros should explicitly list every single module they explicitly use – no shortcuts, no implications.

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-18 Thread Matisse Enzer
On Nov 18, 2007, at 7:25 AM, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: Even if it's in the perl core, the developer may have compiled with -Dnoextensions=Encode In such a case Encode is not present. I have skipped Encode many times because it takes up so much time, others may do likewise. So, I think

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-17 Thread Matisse Enzer
On Nov 15, 2007, at 8:04 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: So in order to make everything work robustly, distros should explicitly list every single module they explicitly use – no shortcuts, no implications. basically, I agree completely, with the possible exception of modules that are in the Perl

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-15 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-13 21:10]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:53:42PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: and: Foo::Bar is in

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-15 22:40]: If Straps is the only thing that you use, then that's the only thing you should list. If Straps has dependencies, it lists those. Test::Prereq would see what the Straps distro provides and only remove those from the prereq list. If Straps

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-13 Thread Adrian Howard
installations where people have managed to get different bits of an installation in different places. However, I suspect that enough folk are of the opposite opinion that a CPANTS metric wouldn't be very useful :-) Adrian

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-13 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:08:41 +0100, Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There was already a module that does this, I can't remember it's name, Maybe B::Prereq and its companion Test::Dependencies. -- andreas

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:53:42PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-12 21:10]: The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used in a dist are also listed as a prereq. (prereq is either gatherd directly from Meta.YMLs

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-13 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:53:42PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: and: Foo::Bar is in distribution AUTHOR/Foo-Bar which also contains Foo::Bar::Baz, so I only need to declare one of them to get both. This is also an

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-13 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-13 21:10]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 10:53:42PM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: and: Foo::Bar is in distribution AUTHOR/Foo-Bar which also contains Foo::Bar::Baz, so I only

New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I'm currently thinking about a new CPANTS metric (and I even have a half-finished implementation..), and I'd like to get some feedback on it, before spending more time on it (or even releasing it..) The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Thomas Klausner # on Monday 12 November 2007 12:05: check if all the modules used in a dist are also listed as a prereq ... by parsing Build.PL or Makefile.PL How do you propose to address system-dependent requirements? (e.g. $^O eq 'MSWin32' issues.) If you do not execute the

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi Thomas, * Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-11-12 21:10]: The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used in a dist are also listed as a prereq. (prereq is either gatherd directly from Meta.YMLs 'requires', by parsing Build.PL or Makefile.PL)

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
Thomas Klausner wrote: I'm currently thinking about a new CPANTS metric (and I even have a half-finished implementation..), and I'd like to get some feedback on it, before spending more time on it (or even releasing it..) The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Geoffrey Young
The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used in a dist are also listed as a prereq. I find this odd. if I check a prereq for mod_perl (.pm) I know I have the 50 some modules that come with a mod_perl distribution. check for LWP and I know I have

Re: Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-24 Thread David Cantrell
Jonathan Rockway wrote: You might like File::ShareDir for this. That way you can keep the big data file out of band, and avoid having to maintain a database inside your perl file. Unfortunately it requires Module::Install. -- David Cantrell

Re: Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-21 Thread Jonathan Rockway
David Cantrell wrote: Number::Phone::UK::Data contains a big chunk of binary gibberish at the end of the file (it's an embedded DBM::Deep database), in a __DATA__ segment. That includes several lines that match /^=/ and so might look like POD, and hence confuse things. I'd argue that this

Re: Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-19 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Number::Phone::UK::Data contains a big chunk of binary gibberish at the end of the file (it's an embedded DBM::Deep database), in a __DATA__ segment. That includes several lines that match /^=/ and so might look like

Re: Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-18 Thread David Cantrell
Hrrm, I never saw my reply to Thomas's message - looks like it got eaten by something. My apologies if this is a repeat for you ... Thomas Klausner wrote: Some dists (eg Number::Phone) Urk, that's one of mine. currently cause segfaults in cpants Sorry! I

Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! You might wonder why cpants.perl.org is still down, even though I found some time to work on it. Here's why: Some dists (eg Number::Phone) currently cause segfaults in cpants [Meta: I changed a few things in how cpants processes CPAN. In a first pass, cpants writes a YAML file for each

Re: Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
Thomas Klausner wrote: I'm not sure if the problem is caused by some dists liek Number::Phone, or by Pod::Simple::Checker (YAML for sure is causing the segfaults, but I'd definitly want to correct the data, too) I've put one of the problematic files up here:

Re: Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-13 Thread Andreas J. Koenig
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:45:38 +0200, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: perl -MYAML=LoadFile -le 'LoadFile(Number-Phone-1.58.yml)' Use YAML::Syck! It will cut your execution time too. Significantly! % time perl -MYAML::Syck=LoadFile -le 'LoadFile(Number-Phone-1.58.yml)' perl

cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Anonymous
looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks now. also, would it make sense to have a test to check for warnings when warnings are enabled globally? many modules do not enable warnings, but when you use those modules and run the script with -w, it's possible to get lots

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks now. Oops. That's my fault. cron job now re-enabled. Blush. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks now. Oops. That's my fault. cron job now re-enabled. Blush. No, that was my fault, as I turned it off. CPANTS

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:10:25PM +0200, Anonymous wrote: also, would it make sense to have a test to check for warnings when warnings are enabled globally? many modules do not enable warnings, but when you use those modules and run the script with -w, it's possible to get lots of

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 11 Sep 2007, at 20:37, Thomas Klausner wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks now. Oops. That's my fault. cron job now re-enabled. Blush

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 11 Sep 2007, at 20:37, Thomas Klausner wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 weeks

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 11 Sep 2007, at 21:12, Thomas Klausner wrote: Oh sorry Thomas - I assumed it was me. Shall I turn it off again? Hm, I guess it's better to turn it off. OK - it's turned off again for the moment. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Michael G Schwern
Thomas Klausner wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:10:25PM +0200, Anonymous wrote: also, would it make sense to have a test to check for warnings when warnings are enabled globally? many modules do not enable warnings, but when you use those modules and run the script with -w, it's possible

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-06-02 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathan S. Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A suggestion was to have different levels of strictness in Test::Kwalitee and have different sets of metrics being tested by default at each of those levels. However, I didn´t get into this and simply hard-coded some of

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-02 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 01 June 2007 10:47:00 Andy Armstrong wrote: You could send them to me if you fancy? I'm guessing chromatic's pretty busy. I lost most of my outstanding patches a couple of weeks ago too, and only just noticed.

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-06-02 Thread Nathan S. Haigh
Quoting brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathan S. Haigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A suggestion was to have different levels of strictness in Test::Kwalitee and have different sets of metrics being tested by default at each of those levels. However, I

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-06-02 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 2 Jun 2007, at 11:33, Nathan S. Haigh wrote: On my return from holiday, who am I best sending my changes to? You could certainly send them to me. Maybe put them on rt.cpan.org too? -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-06-02 Thread chromatic
On Saturday 02 June 2007 03:33:27 Nathan S. Haigh wrote: On my return from holiday, who am I best sending my changes to? The RT queue for Test::Kwalitee please, where I won't lose them. -- c

Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Andy Armstrong
into Module::CPANTS::Analyse to find the tests that are actually available - but then what to do about the methods? I could * generate the methods dynamically based on the Kwalitee modules that are installed * generate only the current methods and add a new method test_against() (or whatever

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Nathan S. Haigh
the known test types as methods. I can make it delve into Module::CPANTS::Analyse to find the tests that are actually available - but then what to do about the methods? I could * generate the methods dynamically based on the Kwalitee modules that are installed * generate only

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 1 Jun 2007, at 18:41, Nathan S. Haigh wrote: I recently made some simple changes to Test::Kwalitee so that it would test all the metrics provided by Module::CPANTS::Analyse. However, Chromitic hasn´t yet updated CPAN with these changes. I´m on holiday at the moment so I won´t be even

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-06-01 Thread Nathan S. Haigh
for a bit of poking of Test::Kwalitee if it doesn't need too much. I looked at the RT tickets. I think three of them can be closed immediately or re-assigned to Module::CPANTS::Analyse. Test::Kwalitee just does wraps taht module, so if people don't like how it does the work, it's not Test

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:23:14PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: Test::Kwalitee currently exposes the known test types as methods. I can make it delve into Module::CPANTS::Analyse to find the tests that are actually available - but then what to do about the methods? Sorry, not a lot

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread chromatic
On Friday 01 June 2007 10:47:00 Andy Armstrong wrote: You could send them to me if you fancy? I'm guessing chromatic's pretty busy. I lost most of my outstanding patches a couple of weeks ago too, and only just noticed. -- c

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-01 16:25]: I could * generate the methods dynamically based on the Kwalitee modules that are installed * generate only the current methods and add a new method test_against() (or whatever) that provides access to any named Kwalitee test

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-02 03:40]: I know it's not as cute as the current interface - but cute can be surprising and I don't think a surprising interface is necessarily a good thing :) Agreed. It just depended on what you preferred; in case of a method per metric,

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Gabor Szabo # on Wednesday 30 May 2007 08:58 pm: I would like to be able to opt-in such e-mail reports. Similarly to how CPAN Testers send reports. Wouldn't it would be interesting if there were a multiplexing service for this sort of thing? E.g. maybe a system that allows you to

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 May 2007, at 08:28, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Wouldn't it would be interesting if there were a multiplexing service for this sort of thing? E.g. maybe a system that allows you to subscribe to a personal mailing list of sorts in much the same way that you can get an rss feed for a given rt

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
remaining for me is how to notify module authors who don't yet know about CPANTS? Oh, I guess you will say if someone wants to know on how to make his module better will find the resources including the modul-authors list and CPANTS. Gabor

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Ian Malpass
Gabor Szabo wrote: The question remaining for me is how to notify module authors who don't yet know about CPANTS? Oh, I guess you will say if someone wants to know on how to make his module better will find the resources including the modul-authors list and CPANTS. How about putting notes

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Shlomi Fish
there's always rss2email or a different RSS to email gateway). I should note that like Gabor said I'd like this feature to be opt-in, because I don't want it. I don't care too much about the CPANTS so-called kwalitee, although sometimes when I'm bored, I raise the kwalitee of some of my modules

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-31 Thread brian d foy
to PAUSE, or on DarkPAN code. Not all of CPANTS has to run against publicly-uploaded distributions. What does Test::Kwalitee need? Is it just fixing the stuff in RT or is there something else? I've just been running cpants_lint.pl before I upload anything. If it doesn't say perfect, that fails. :)

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 May 2007, at 21:42, brian d foy wrote: I've just been running cpants_lint.pl before I upload anything. If it doesn't say perfect, that fails. :) Yes, damn you :) I'll volunteer for a bit of poking of Test::Kwalitee if it doesn't need too much. -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-31 Thread brian d foy
too much. I looked at the RT tickets. I think three of them can be closed immediately or re-assigned to Module::CPANTS::Analyse. Test::Kwalitee just does wraps taht module, so if people don't like how it does the work, it's not Test::Kwalitee's problem. One is a documentation patch, which is easy

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 1 Jun 2007, at 02:09, brian d foy wrote: I'll have some time next week if Andy doesn't beat me too it. I'm having a rummage around now :) chromatic: do you have a .perltidyrc you could send me? My muscle memory keeps reaching for the perltidy hot key that would convert your code to

Re: CPANTS reports in e-mail

2007-05-31 Thread Chris Dolan
On May 31, 2007, at 2:28 AM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: And for the rest of us to stay current, maybe a low-volume mailing list solely for notifications of various new/changed perl/cpan services? Posting to module-authors should be fine if it's low volume. No need for yet another mailing list

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-31 Thread chromatic
On Thursday 31 May 2007 19:08:27 Andy Armstrong wrote: On 1 Jun 2007, at 02:09, brian d foy wrote: I'll have some time next week if Andy doesn't beat me too it. I'm having a rummage around now :) chromatic: do you have a .perltidyrc you could send me? My muscle memory keeps reaching for

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-30 Thread chromatic
important metric there is. If I had time to fix Test::Kwalitee, you could run that test *before* uploading a distribution to PAUSE, or on DarkPAN code. Not all of CPANTS has to run against publicly-uploaded distributions. -- c

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-29 Thread David Cantrell
demerphq wrote: On 5/26/07, Andreas J. Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK it is not Archive::Tar either. I have not found out which compression software packages do it right and which do it wrong. I have communicated with several authors about it but being Windows users, they do not know it

CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread David Cantrell
idea for CPANTS to check that directories have the x bits set. This would either be a new metric, or could be rolled into 'extracts_nicely', or could be combined with 'no_symlinks' and called 'uses_portable_filesystem_features' or something similar. -- David Cantrell

Re: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric

2007-05-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-26 16:45]: I think it would be a good idea for CPANTS to check that directories have the x bits set. ++ This would either be a new metric +=0 or could be rolled into 'extracts_nicely' ++ or could be combined with 'no_symlinks' and called

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