Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-13 Thread David Cantrell
A. Pagaltzis wrote: Adam Kennedy wrote: On the other hand, the downside with this is that modules could well have URIs that take actions in them, *pulls out HTTP RFC* *starts beating random bad programmers over the head with it* `GET` SHOULD BE SAFE AND IDEMPOTENT! `GET` SHOULD BE SAFE AND

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:07:28PM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: I posted all of my thoughts on the Perl-QA wiki here: http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/CPANTS_Quality_Goals Cool! I added a few things, most notably the new has_license metric (thanks again to Gabor Szabo for implementing it).

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread David Landgren
Thomas Klausner wrote: Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:07:28PM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: I posted all of my thoughts on the Perl-QA wiki here: http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/CPANTS_Quality_Goals Cool! I added a few things, most notably the new has_license metric (thanks again to Gabor

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:24:16PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: Oww, that includes all of mine, even though they state clearly in the docs that they are distributed under the perl license. I assume this looks at the META.yml license key? I guess it's time to take

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone. Maybe this metric should even check if there's a license in META.yml AND a pod heading namen LICENSE, so that humans and tools

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread David Golden
Thomas Klausner wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone. If you're going that way, also check for a qr/LICENSE/i file in the distribution directory. Maybe this metric should even check if there's a license in

Module license determination (was Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming)

2006-09-13 Thread Chris Dolan
On Sep 13, 2006, at 8:06 AM, Gabor Szabo wrote: On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone. Maybe this metric should even check if there's a license in META.yml AND a

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Yuval Kogman
On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 16:06:42 +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: It should also check if the license field in META.yml is one of the 'approved' licenses, I guess this would be the list of words that can be used in Module::Build. This list is lame, it's not a canonical format. For example perl is

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Adriano Ferreira
On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the metric currently checks if there's a 'license' field in META.yml META.yml is supposed to get most of distribution information in a format that it is safe and comprehensible. No need for further heuristics. It is a good thing that

Re: Installing Tests

2006-09-13 Thread Adrian Howard
On 13 Sep 2006, at 05:37, Michael G Schwern wrote: [snip] (For the sarcasm impaired, if you're just going to store the whole post-install source tarball you might as well just grab it from CPAN again) [snip] Isn't the post-install source tree potentially different in useful ways from the

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a few things, most notably the new has_license metric (thanks again to Gabor Szabo for implementing it). (BTW, there was quite a drop in the CPANTS game highscore lists, as lots of dists don't come with a license

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-13 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chris Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 12, 2006, at 9:24 AM, Salve J Nilsen wrote: Any metric that catches bad things, particularly bad technical things, is going to be just fine. Metrics that try to push good behavior are fraught with trouble,

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread brian d foy
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone. Tell one place where people should look to have

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread David Golden
brian d foy wrote: Thinking about this further and talking to a few people about it, the only place that makes any sense is the source code file itself. After installation, the rest of the distribution will disappear. The license has to stay with the source. Nit -- .pod files also stay around

Re: Installing Tests

2006-09-13 Thread Michael G Schwern
Adrian Howard wrote: On 13 Sep 2006, at 05:37, Michael G Schwern wrote: [snip] (For the sarcasm impaired, if you're just going to store the whole post-install source tarball you might as well just grab it from CPAN again) [snip] Isn't the post-install source tree potentially different

Re: Installing Tests

2006-09-13 Thread Adrian Howard
On 13 Sep 2006, at 19:28, Michael G Schwern wrote: Adrian Howard wrote: On 13 Sep 2006, at 05:37, Michael G Schwern wrote: [snip] (For the sarcasm impaired, if you're just going to store the whole post-install source tarball you might as well just grab it from CPAN again) [snip] Isn't the

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Gabor Szabo
On 9/13/06, brian d foy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Adriano Ferreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/06, Thomas Klausner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it would be reasonable to also check for a POD-Heading named LICENSE, but that's definitly more error-prone.

TAPx::Parser 0.22

2006-09-13 Thread Ovid
It's on its way to the CPAN. There's a tiny API change which probably won't affect most folks (first Changes item), but I really needed to do this to simplify the code. 0.22 13 September 2006 - Removed buggy support for multi-line chunks from streams. If your streams

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-13 Thread Adam Kennedy
David Golden wrote: Adam Kennedy wrote: But with that in mind, I still don't see much point in running them at install-time, so lately I've modified my pod.t test so that it's skip message is now skipped: Author tests not required for installation or the like, and the tests now only run when