Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-25 Thread Adrian Howard
On 24 Apr 2006, at 15:51, Shlomi Fish wrote: [snip] Am I missing something or isn't that what Test::Harness:Straps/Test::Run::Straps are for? If not, I suppose I can extract a class out of Test::Run::Straps that will provide a reusable TAP parser. [snip] In addition to Michael's and chroma

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread chromatic
On Monday 24 April 2006 07:56, Michael Peters wrote: > Not only would this make it easier to have a harness look for something > other than TAP (maybe some other protocol from some other language) but > it also means I can parse test runs after they've been run on a > completely different machine

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread Michael Peters
Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Monday 24 April 2006 01:46, Michael Peters wrote: >> Shlomi Fish wrote: >>> On Sunday 23 April 2006 22:35, chromatic wrote: On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: > This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test > harness.

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Monday 24 April 2006 01:46, Michael Peters wrote: > Shlomi Fish wrote: > > On Sunday 23 April 2006 22:35, chromatic wrote: > >> On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: > >>> This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test > >>> harness. > >> > >> No, it demonstrate

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread Rafael Garcia-Suarez
Andy Lester wrote: > I'm approaching the end of this release cycle. I really want to get > this released. > > I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have failed. > If you rely on the output at the end, it's different now. I'm not attached to percentages, which I wasn't looki

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread Adam Kennedy
Michael Peters wrote: Shlomi Fish wrote: On Sunday 23 April 2006 22:35, chromatic wrote: On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test harness. No, it demonstrates why a well-defined test output protocol is useful. I a

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread Adrian Howard
On 23 Apr 2006, at 20:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: [snip] This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test harness. If it has it, then one can write a plugin to control whether or not percentages are displayed. So for example, you can install a plugin that does that, and put t

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-24 Thread Adam Kennedy
chromatic wrote: On Sunday 23 April 2006 15:46, Michael Peters wrote: How about a good TAP parser module that does nothing but parse TAP. Then it could be used in all kinds of test harness permutations. That's exactly what I want and precisely why I think a well-defined TAP is more important

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:14:01PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 01:02:00AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > I'm approaching the end of this release cycle. I really want to get > > this released. > > Tests pass. One "not numeric" warning: Of course, I forgot to mention: P

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Andy Lester
This is the same warning I reported in an earlier message: http:// groups.google.com/group/perl.qa/msg/fee69dde25cf42ec Given the wise counsel of a former Phalanx strategos ("every warning your test suite throws is a bug which must be tracked down"), I spent several hours looking at this t

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread James E Keenan
David H. Adler wrote: Tests pass. One "not numeric" warning: t/00compile.ok 1/6Argument "2.57_06" isn't numeric in subroutine entry at t/lib/Test/More.pm line 670 This is the same warning I reported in an earlier message: http://groups.google.com/group/perl.qa/msg/fee69dde25cf42ec

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 23 April 2006 15:46, Michael Peters wrote: > How about a good TAP parser module that does nothing but parse TAP. Then > it could be used in all kinds of test harness permutations. That's exactly what I want and precisely why I think a well-defined TAP is more important than a plugin sy

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Michael Peters
Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sunday 23 April 2006 22:35, chromatic wrote: >> On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: >>> This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test >>> harness. >> No, it demonstrates why a well-defined test output protocol is useful. >> > > I agree

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Tels
Moin, On Sunday 23 April 2006 23:08, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Sunday 23 April 2006 23:11, chromatic wrote: > > On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:46, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > I agree that a well-defined test output protocol is useful. > > > However, are you implying that assuming we have that, one can write

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 23 April 2006 23:11, chromatic wrote: > On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:46, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > I agree that a well-defined test output protocol is useful. However, are > > you implying that assuming we have that, one can write several different > > test harnesses to process such test outpu

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 01:02:00AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > I'm approaching the end of this release cycle. I really want to get > this released. > > I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have failed. > If you rely on the output at the end, it's different now. > > xoa > >

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread David H. Adler
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 01:02:00AM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > I'm approaching the end of this release cycle. I really want to get > this released. Tests pass. One "not numeric" warning: t/00compile.ok 1/6Argument "2.57_06" isn't numeric in subroutine entry at t/lib/Test/More.pm line 6

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:46, Shlomi Fish wrote: > I agree that a well-defined test output protocol is useful. However, are > you implying that assuming we have that, one can write several different > test harnesses to process such test outputs? (I'm just guessing.) No. > Wouldn't that imply du

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 23 April 2006 22:35, chromatic wrote: > On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test > > harness. > > No, it demonstrates why a well-defined test output protocol is useful. > I agree that a well-defined test ou

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread chromatic
On Sunday 23 April 2006 12:05, Shlomi Fish wrote: > This debate demonstrates why a plugin system is necessary for a test > harness. No, it demonstrates why a well-defined test output protocol is useful. -- c

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sunday 23 April 2006 15:08, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:07:18 +0100, Adrian Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > On 23 Apr 2006, at 07:02, Andy Lester wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have > > > failed. If you rely on the

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread demerphq
On 4/23/06, H.Merijn Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:07:18 +0100, Adrian Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > On 23 Apr 2006, at 07:02, Andy Lester wrote: > > [snip] > > > I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have > > > failed. If you rely on th

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Marcus Holland-Moritz
On 2006-04-23, at 02:26:54 -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:01:17AM +0200, Marcus Holland-Moritz wrote: > > The only thing worth mentioning is that with perl 5.003, > > the following happens: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ perl5.003 Makefile.PL

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Marcus Holland-Moritz
On 2006-04-23, at 02:49:14 -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:34:12AM +0200, Marcus Holland-Moritz wrote: > > On 2006-04-23, at 02:26:54 -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:01:17AM +0200, Marcus Holland-Moritz wrote: > > > > T

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Marcus Holland-Moritz
On 2006-04-23, at 01:02:00 -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > I'm approaching the end of this release cycle. I really want to get > this released. > > I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have failed. > If you rely on the output at the end, it's different now. I've run it throug

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread H.Merijn Brand
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:07:18 +0100, Adrian Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 23 Apr 2006, at 07:02, Andy Lester wrote: > [snip] > > I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have > > failed. If you rely on the output at the end, it's different now. > [snip] > > I'll just r

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Adrian Howard
On 23 Apr 2006, at 07:02, Andy Lester wrote: [snip] I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have failed. If you rely on the output at the end, it's different now. [snip] I'll just repeat what I left on Andy's blog here in case anybody agrees with me. I don't like the

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:34:12AM +0200, Marcus Holland-Moritz wrote: > On 2006-04-23, at 02:26:54 -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:01:17AM +0200, Marcus Holland-Moritz wrote: > > > The only thing worth mentioning is that with perl 5.003, > > > the following

Re: Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-23 Thread Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 11:01:17AM +0200, Marcus Holland-Moritz wrote: > The only thing worth mentioning is that with perl 5.003, > the following happens: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ perl5.003 Makefile.PL > Can't locate ExtUtils/Command.pm in @INC at Makefile.PL line 4. >

Test me please: P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz

2006-04-22 Thread Andy Lester
I'm approaching the end of this release cycle. I really want to get this released. I've removed the meaningless percentages of tests that have failed. If you rely on the output at the end, it's different now. xoa file: $CPAN/authors/id/P/PE/PETDANCE/Test-Harness-2.57_06.tar.gz size: