In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], herbert breunung
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
currently just used for compile time constants like $?LINE allright so
far so good.
but why not use that for all constants like
my $?constant = 5;
The $? is telling us where the value came from, not that it's a
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's what made me come to the conclusion that it's really The Parrot
Foundation.
It's not The Parrot Foundation. It's that NLNet gave a very large
targeted grant for Parrot. It's a single big donation that's driving
that.
I'm working
In article
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Conrad Schneiker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So over the next few months, I'm planning to learn about
fundraising, and see what I can accomplish on behalf of Perl
6 development. To that end, I'm
This is actually a bug from Perl 5, but Perl 5's given is supposed to
act like Perl 6's given. The long post is in use.perl:
http://use.perl.org/~brian_d_foy/journal/35682
I was playing with a when condition that used a logical operator to see
if the topic was both an element of an array and
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:given( $foo ) {
: when( ( scalar @array and scalar %hash ) ~~ $_) ) { ... }
: }
which is exactly what I would expect from Perl 5, unless when is
really a very intelligent macro of some sort. As far as I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Smylers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
brian d foy writes:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:28:48AM -0800, brian d foy wrote:
: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
: [EMAIL PROTECTED
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
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On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:28:48AM -0800, brian d foy wrote:
: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: : Later in the Literals section of S02, there's a chart of the
: : corresponding forms
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In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], cdumont
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oh, it might not be relevant in many ways but :
http://iamseb.com/seb/2007/12/perl-on-rails-why-the-bbc-fails-at-the-internet/
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
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: Later in the Literals section of S02, there's a chart of the
: corresponding forms for fat arrow, pair, and paren notation. It has
:
:a = 'foo' :afoo :a(foo)
:
: That looks like it might mean that these are
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], TSa
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The only operator that can be used to investigate these values should
be ~~ and the given/when statement that uses it.
Why should that be true? What's wrong with treating it as an object
like anything else?
The trick is limiting the
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Moritz Lenz
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brian d foy wrote:
* If I can match $x to NaN (or its stand-in), what happens when $x is
undef?
undef is a property of the container variable (that it holds no value),
whereas NaN is a property of the content (like 1/0
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Duncan
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At 3:20 PM -0500 10/6/07, brian d foy wrote:
For comparisons, how are we going to use Inf and NaN? Are those going
to be special flyweight objects, so:
$x = 1 / 0;
$x == Inf;# is it the same value
$x
I'm thinking about how to explain Perl 6's numbers to the beginners
just picking up Learning Perl 6. I had some questions about NaN and Inf
(which I can't just try since neither Parrot or Pugs appear to know
about these yet).
* In S02's table of Immutable types, it mentions that Int allows Inf
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian d foy
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I'm thinking about how to explain Perl 6's numbers to the beginners
just picking up Learning Perl 6. I had some questions about NaN and Inf
(which I can't just try since neither Parrot or Pugs appear to know
about these yet
This is basically the same question I had about file test operators
earlier
(http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.language/2007/04/msg27415.htm
l). I never got an answer on my syntax question and the discussion went
off to talk about file tests instead of pair notation.
From S02 The general
that
would be, but it might be a good idea to join some of them in turns and
ask brian d foy to publish them in TPR as well.
Yes, I'd publish them. :) However, I don't want to publish something
that's already on Perl.com.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Smylers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Juerd Waalboer writes:
Smylers skribis 2007-06-21 21:33 (+0100):
I disagree. perldoc.perl.org was started by JJ, gained popularity,
and then got awarded the official blessing of the onion. Over the
years there have
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian
Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Overmeer wrote:
[...yet another honest and heartfelt plea for Pod 6 to be something
entirely different from what it is currently designed to be.]
The solution is simple, you know, Mark. Why not just write up your
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Chaddaï
Fouché [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Learning Perl 6 argument seems
equally contrived to me since anyway you don't need POD to understand
programming in Perl and I never actually learned POD until I wanted to
do a real module and document my little console
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian Conway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[writing publicly to head off any notions there's a personality problem
here]
brian wrote:
I know you think it's easier to teach and explain, but that's because
you came up with it.
I hope I'm not that shallow.
I
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian d foy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are other things to consider, and to me it looks like this design
decision isn't based on what's easier for the Perl 6 programmer but
what's easier for the implementors.
My comment here was offensive to Damian
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian Conway
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[ First, I should note that whatever we end up with, that's the party
line and that's what I teach, but before we end up there, I know from
my years of experience teaching that certain sorts of questions are
going to come up.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Smylers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
brian d foy writes:
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian
Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. It's Pod. *Any* line that begins with '=begin' always starts a Pod
block. Always.
As you know, one of the biggest
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Damian
Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. It's Pod. *Any* line that begins with '=begin' always starts a Pod
block. Always.
As you know, one of the biggest complaints about Perl is that you have
to have a lot of special rules knowledge to figure some things out.
I was thinking about default filehandles yesterday. select() doesn't
seem to be around except as an Unfiled function in S16.
Then, as I was looking at
.say( Hello World );
and
$ERR.say( Hello standard error );
I figured this might work, and does. Topicalizing a filehandle kinda
acts
Is there going to be a Perl 6 equivalent to $ARGV (the current filename
for the ARGV filehandle)?
This is something I wanted to use in an example in the Learning Perl 6
filehandles chapter:
http://www.learningperl6.com/Chapters/11.filehandles.html
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 01, 2007 at 10:04:50AM -0500, brian d foy wrote:
: Is there going to be a Perl 6 equivalent to $ARGV (the current filename
: for the ARGV filehandle)?
Hmm, well, we did away with unsigiled filehandles, and renamed
At the moment the file test operators that I expect to return true or
false do, but the true is the filename. I expected a boolean, for no
other reason than Perl 6 has them so it might as well use them. The
section on Smart Matching in S03 says that the ~~ doesn't have to
return a boolean, but
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Vergin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
on 4/11/2007 10:29 AM brian d foy said the following:
The $*ARGS variable shows up in this file, which looks like it's still
maintained:
http://svn.pugscode.org/pugs/docs/AES/S28draft.pod
That's a typo (mine
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brandon
S. Allbery KF8NH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 12, 2007, at 14:52 , brian d foy wrote:
At the moment the file test operators that I expect to return true or
false do, but the true is the filename. I expected a boolean, for no
other reason than Perl
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Moritz Lenz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
brian d foy wrote:
At the moment the file test operators that I expect to return true or
false do, but the true is the filename.
that helps chaining of file test:
$fn ~~ :t ~~ :x
or something.
That's fine
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brandon
S. Allbery KF8NH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
File tests are supposed to return something which:
- behaves as a Bool
- stringifies as a filename
- numifies as a file size or as a time, if appropriate
- propagates a stat object (obviating perl5's magic _)
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Moritz Lenz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
At the moment the file test operators that I expect to return true or
false do, but the true is the filename.
that helps chaining of file test:
$fn ~~ :t ~~ :x
or something.
I thought
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Larry Wall
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:52:50PM -0500, brian d foy wrote:
: Here's my code example that motivates this question. For a Llama6
: exercise with file test operators, I wanted to create a little table:
:
:for @files
So far (eep!), the documentation talks about file test operators as
working with pairs, which will be a weird thing to explain, I guess.
I'm wondering if this matters to the mere user at all, and if we should
even talk about them in terms of pairs. I don't want a different set
of terms in the docs
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mark J.
Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I need to reread the docs. What's the colon in the method calls for?
(That is, why is it $stat_obj.:r instead of just $stat_obj.r ?)
I can't answer the why question, but the stuff in S02 might help you.
Look for
In article
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Luke
Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However, now we have stat($file).size.
That's sorta fine with me. That makes it even easier to explain to
newbies, although I'd need method names for the other tests.
However, junctive tests are a mighty attractive feature
Randal and I are starting work on Learning Perl 6, and now
that I've completed a lot of other things, I can actually start
paying attention to Perl 6. Here's the first of my stupid, where
have you been for the past 2 years you moron questions. :)
I'm working on the chapter on I/O (Chapter 5 in
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Moritz Lenz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
brian d foy wrote:
Under the section The for Statement in S04, it says that the diamond
operator
while( ) { ... }
becomes in Perl 6
for =$*ARGS { ... }
Some time ago I read that too
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