[RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Elsayed
While lurking in IRC, I've seen several discussions of what CPAN 6 should look like. Honestly, wayland76++'s idea for packaging seems the best to me. Most of the suggestions so far, especially those based on alien, apt, yum, or other existing package managers have a few major problems: * Alien

Re: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Elsayed
On Thursday 28 May 2009 4:04:28 pm Daniel Carrera wrote: > * We were mainly looking at Alien as a source of Perl code we could borrow. Ah, I was lumping it in with the previous proposals to actually use .deb as the official P6 package format. My mistake. > * The point of wayland76's proposal was

Re: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Elsayed
On Thursday 28 May 2009 4:22:00 pm Larry Wall wrote: > I support the notion of distributing binaries because nobody's gonna > want to chew up their phone's battery doing unnecessary compiles. The > ecology of computing devices is different from ten years ago. I agree. My ideal situation would be t

Re: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-28 Thread Alex Elsayed
On Thursday 28 May 2009 4:54:50 pm Daniel Carrera wrote: > On the other hand, distributing Parrot bytecode (or PIR, or PASM) seems > fine. But I don't know what to suggest for modules that require a C > compiler. The problem with that is that Rakudo isn't the "Official" impelentation, and never wi

[RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-29 Thread Alex Elsayed
While lurking in IRC, I've seen several discussions of what CPAN 6 should look like. Honestly, wayland76++'s idea for packaging seems the best to me. Most of the suggestions so far, especially those based on alien, apt, yum, or other existing package managers have a few major problems: * Alien

Re: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-29 Thread Alex Elsayed
On Friday 29 May 2009 1:51:40 am Mark Overmeer wrote: > I would really like to see a split in terminology being used for the > various seperate problems. The traditional confusion about what CPAN is: > an archive or an install tool. Package manager discussions are in the > process AFTER the insta

Re: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-29 Thread Alex Elsayed
> I believe he is arguing that whatever we end up doing needs to make it > easy for an external package-manager to find out what files CPAN6.pm > is going to install, and where, and what the dependencies were (both > Perl and system libraries). So that the various distributions can > make native p

Re: [RFC] CPAN6 requirements analysis

2009-05-29 Thread Alex Elsayed
> I know that Rakudo is not the official implementation. The problem is > that you misunderstood my post. I did not say to distribute PIR to the > exclusion of Perl source. You know that I was replying to Larry's > comment that he supported the notion of distributing binaries. Surely > you didn't t

Fwd: Ideas for a "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model

2010-05-12 Thread Alex Elsayed
Forgot to send this to the list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alex Elsayed Date: Wed, May 12, 2010 at 8:55 PM Subject: Re: Ideas for a "Object-Belongs-to-Thread" threading model To: Daniel Ruoso You may find interesting a paper that was (at one point) listed in the

Re: Re: Parallelism and Concurrency was Re: Ideas for a"Object-Belongs-to-Thread" (nntp: message 4 of 20) threading model (nntp: message 20 of 20 -lastone!-) (nntp: message 13 of 20)

2010-05-18 Thread Alex Elsayed
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 3:19 AM, wrote: > The guts of the discussion has been kernel threading (and mutable shared > state) is necessary. The perception being that by using user-threading (on > a single core at a time), you avoid the need for and complexities of > locking and synchronisation. And

Re: Help mechanism in REPL?

2016-09-09 Thread Alex Elsayed
On Wednesday, 7 September 2016 17:57:32 PDT Parrot Raiser wrote: > This isn't a request for a feature, merely a thought experiment. We're > still in the phase where it's more important to ensure that existing > features work properly than add new ones. > > How difficult would it be to include a me