I gave the talk at OSSBarcamp in Dublin last weekend and it went well.
My sincere thanks to everyone who contributed.
The slides are available at:
http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/perl-myths-200909
The graphs and stats charting the continuing growth of perl and the perl
community were
Moritz Lenz wrote:
Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim ():
Anything else I should add, change or remove? I'm especially interested
in verifyable metrics showing effort, progress, or use. Ideally graphical.
Any interesting nuggets that fit with the theme will be most welcome.
Moritz++ and I were talking
Tim (), Raphael ():
Some XML related stuff:
XML parser:
http://github.com/fperrad/xml/
Tree manipulation:
http://github.com/wayland/Tree/tree/master
Thanks. Any reason they're not known to proto?
The latter I wasn't really aware of. It's now added to the list, and
wayland has been given
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:05PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
You can find my current draft at http://files.me.com/tim.bunce/65oikg (2.3MB
PDF)
page 73 - Haskell should be spelled with two Ls
-kolibrie
2009/9/16 Carl Mäsak cma...@gmail.com:
Tim (), Raphael ():
Some XML related stuff:
XML parser:
http://github.com/fperrad/xml/
No Perl6.
Only Parrot PCT.
François Perrad
Tree manipulation:
http://github.com/wayland/Tree/tree/master
Thanks. Any reason they're not known to proto?
The
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim (), Raphael ():
Some XML related stuff:
XML parser:
http://github.com/fperrad/xml/
Tree manipulation:
http://github.com/wayland/Tree/tree/master
Thanks. Any reason they're not known to proto?
The latter I wasn't really aware of. It's now added
Timothy S. Nelson wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim (), Raphael ():
Some XML related stuff:
XML parser:
http://github.com/fperrad/xml/
Tree manipulation:
http://github.com/wayland/Tree/tree/master
Thanks. Any reason they're not known to proto?
The latter I wasn't
Am Mittwoch, den 16.09.2009, 10:30 +0200 schrieb François Perrad:
2009/9/16 Carl Mäsak cma...@gmail.com:
Tim (), Raphael ():
Some XML related stuff:
XML parser:
http://github.com/fperrad/xml/
No Perl6.
Only Parrot PCT.
Yes, I know.
But your XML grammar is Perl 6 syntax anyway ;)
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:07:40PM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote:
pp 22-23 - You might want to update the screen captures related to Moose,
both its search.cpan page and dependency graph, since its moved a long way
from 2008; on the other hand, the existing captures are still quite
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 09:40:46AM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
Darren Duncan wrote:
So another proposal I have is to add to the slideshow mentions of the
Enlightened and Modern Perl movements and where one can go to read more,
this being supplemental to PBP.
With that suggestion I'd
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 03:46:54PM +0200, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim ():
I'd be grateful for feedback on any of the slides, but I'm especially
interested in updates for:
page 73 - Perl 6 implementations
I've added Mildew, with links, to the SMOP line
Tim (), Carl (), Tim ():
I'd be grateful for feedback on any of the slides, but I'm especially
interested in updates for:
page 73 - Perl 6 implementations
I've added Mildew, with links, to the SMOP line
anything I should add / change / remove?
Am Dienstag, den 15.09.2009, 16:46 +0200 schrieb Carl Mäsak:
Tim (), Carl (), Tim ():
I'd be grateful for feedback on any of the slides, but I'm especially
interested in updates for:
page 73 - Perl 6 implementations
I've added Mildew, with links, to the SMOP line
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 04:46:33PM +0200, Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim (), Carl (), Tim ():
I'd be grateful for feedback on any of the slides, but I'm especially
interested in updates for:
page 73 - Perl 6 implementations
I've added Mildew, with links, to the SMOP line
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:15:10PM -0400, Nathan Gray wrote:
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:05PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
You can find my current draft at http://files.me.com/tim.bunce/65oikg
(2.3MB PDF)
page 73 - Haskell should be spelled with two Ls
Thank you! I kept wondering if that
Tim ():
I'd be grateful for feedback on any of the slides, but I'm especially
interested in updates for:
page 73 - Perl 6 implementations
I've added Mildew, with links, to the SMOP line
anything I should add / change / remove?
What's the
For the slides on Rakudo, I would suggest adding the modules that are
associated with proto as measure of code written in perl6. There is a
list of 27 projects. proto in itself is an interesting installer.
Also, the number of tests written for perl6 is substantial (18,000 vs
1,400 for Ruby -
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:15:05PM +0100, Tim Bunce wrote:
page 73 - Perl 6 implementations
I've added Mildew, with links, to the SMOP line
anything I should add / change / remove?
What's the status of KindaPerl6?
I think it's stalled or
A few other interesting metrics could be for example:
* Work done on the Specification (Synopses):
svn log docs/Perl6/Spec/
* TimToady hacking ;)
svn log src/perl6/
svn log src/perl6/STD.pm
* Work done on the Official Testsuite:
svn log t/spec/
* Work done on the Testsuite:
svn log t/
(It's
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 05:49:41PM +0400, Richard Hainsworth wrote:
For the slides on Rakudo, I would suggest adding the modules that are
associated with proto as measure of code written in perl6. There is a list
of 27 projects. proto in itself is an interesting installer.
I wasn't aware of
Carl Mäsak wrote:
Tim ():
Anything else I should add, change or remove? I'm especially interested
in verifyable metrics showing effort, progress, or use. Ideally graphical.
Any interesting nuggets that fit with the theme will be most welcome.
Moritz++ and I were talking about making a graph
Tim Bunce wrote:
You can find my current draft at http://files.me.com/tim.bunce/65oikg (2.3MB
PDF)
I'd be grateful for feedback on any of the slides, but I'm especially
interested in updates for:
First off, the slideshow looks very good in general, and I'll look forward to
using it myself
Darren Duncan wrote:
pg 36 - About the Perl Best Practices book, you should be clear to
mention that what is considered best practices has evolved significantly
since that book came out, so teams can't simply agree on We'll just follow
PBP guidelines and call it a day, but should study more
Damian Conway wrote:
Darren Duncan wrote:
pg 36 - About the Perl Best Practices book, you should be clear to
mention that what is considered best practices has evolved significantly
since that book came out, so teams can't simply agree on We'll just follow
PBP guidelines and call it a day,
Darren Duncan wrote:
So another proposal I have is to add to the slideshow mentions of the
Enlightened and Modern Perl movements and where one can go to read more,
this being supplemental to PBP.
With that suggestion I'd whole-heartedly concur.
My own opinion is that the modern best way to
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