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Spoofed again. Nothing to see here.
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written FAQ
lists.
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TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose
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http
PROTECTED] (Trond Eivind Glomsrd)
To: Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Friday 25 May 2001 15:04, you wrote:
Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I also intend to kill the output from database initialization.
I thought you had, at least in the RedHat 7.1
once again apologize for not doing that for 7.4
and 7.4.1. For 7.5 this will be JDBC, right? (The JDBC RPM is pretty broken
anyway, and downloading the proper jar from jdbc.postgresql.org and making a
separate postgresql-jdbc RPM that is not a subpackage won't be hard).
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error in the RPM distribution. Lamar Owen
would be the man to talk to about that ... Lamar, any thoughts about
this?
Well, my first instinct is to throw out the python client RPM entirely. Then
package the python client in a separate RPM. My original plan was not to
ship a python subpackage
in for a couple of hours. So I'll transfer them across
then.
Many thanks!
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TIP 4: Don't
on,
and unstripped.
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TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command
have installed, started, and restarted successfully with the 0.2PGDG set on
Fedora. It isn't breaking for me as yet.
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and multiple compilations
Can you send me a complete stderr and stdout log of the build? (nohup usually
works the best to do this, as it catches everything).
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/init.d/postgresql with the attached script.
Rename it from postgresql.init to postgresql and put in /etc/rc.d/init.d
My apologies. I'll rebuild shortly.
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On Friday 21 November 2003 09:33 pm, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Friday 21 November 2003 09:15 pm, milimeter wrote:
errors: -
An old version of the database format was found.\nYou need to upgrade
the data format before using PostgreSQL.\nSee
/usr/share/doc/postgresql-7.4/README.rpm-dist
On Friday 21 November 2003 09:33 pm, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Friday 21 November 2003 09:15 pm, milimeter wrote:
errors: -
An old version of the database format was found.\nYou need to upgrade
the data format before using PostgreSQL.\nSee
/usr/share/doc/postgresql-7.4/README.rpm-dist
this mail and gets the time to build them, as he has already asked to help do
this. I have RH 8.0 at my disposal, and will build those. I will also be
building Aurora 1.0 packages.
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On Friday 21 November 2003 01:13 pm, Lamar Owen wrote:
I have uploaded a first cut at the RPM's to ftp.postgresql.org. While I am
not 100% convinced of the need to do so, I have restructured the
directories, and await comment on that.
I expect RH 7.3, RH9, and RH 6.2 packages shortly from
previously been set
for naming RPM releases (regardless of the source).
And then you neglected to put group write permissions on the directory so that
other binaries could be uploaded.
So now I wouldn't be able to upload RPMs in the customary place. Many thanks.
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.
On ftp.postgresql.org? I'm only talking about ftp.postgresql.org.
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-postgresql-server built and included. Does
RHEL3 not include this package?
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(debian-style) are fully supported in later Red Hat
(and the new Fedora Core) releases, a scheme that uses alternatives would be
ok.
Be sure to post to the pgsql-ports list instead of pgsql-general, though. If
the list server will accept it, reply-to has been set to pgsql-ports.
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up with what's going on. But you must be willing
to take the e-mail volume that that entails. Or use the archive web
interface. But -hackers is the place, and has been since the beginning.
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You know, I don't mind owning up to my own bugs. But this bug ain't mine.
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their
data.
K, looking back through that it almost sounds like a ramble ... hopefully
you understand what I'm asking ...
*I* should complain about a ramble? :-)
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Formerly of WGCR Internet Radio, and the PostgreSQL RPM
is a
significant amount of downtime for a large DB.
I have harped on this at length. Maybe one day we'll get real upgrading.
Search the archives for the discussions; there are many, and they are long
threads.
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I'm back on my T1.
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http://archives.postgresql.org
that?
No.
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http://archives.postgresql.org
and determine why it doesn't work
(again). If you want to help troubleshoot, look at the
filter-requires-perl-Pg.sh script (Source16) and see where it needs to be
invoked
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On Thursday 26 June 2003 18:34, Manuel Sugawara wrote:
Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you want to help troubleshoot, look at the
filter-requires-perl-Pg.sh script (Source16) and see where it needs
to be invoked
But ... contrib *depends* on perl (see contrib/rserv
optimizations -- so I
ship the default file.
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TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate
subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your
message
will be affected by the war that is likely to
result from these cowardly acts. :-(
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TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
, www.foxnews.com, or some other news web site
(if you can get through). While this is a horrendous thing, it isn't a
PostgreSQL thing
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is then directly affected...
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, all you would need installed would be the main postgresql RPMand the
postgresql-libs RPM. You would not need the postgresql-server RPM installed
for to do a pg_dump.
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TIP 2
- Hardware: dual / quad Intel class
The ultimate would be an IBM S/390 mainframe running some distribution of
Linux S/390. I/O bandwidth on mainframe DASD is incredible, the memory is
robust and fast, and the CPU is trememdous.
The price is also trememdous.
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behind a firewall'd system?
Anyone with half a security clue is behind a firewall. Our firewall here
won't pass ANY IRC for security reasons.
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TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9
whatsoever.
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TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
on (48MB RAM). (That machine went on
the mission field)
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-- but I cannot at present do that.
And, once a Red Hat 7.2, or 8.0, or whatever Red Hat comes out with next
materializes, I will likely migrate my servers to it as well.
My apologies.
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TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html
for -devel subpackage.
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On Wednesday 18 July 2001 10:42 pm, Tom Lane wrote:
Lamar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
While I understand Oliver's reasons for having the Debian stuff on the
debian server, I believe it would be appropriate to have the patchfile
and the various Debian README's available on the main
line to use python2 by default.
Is there a need for a whole separate binary RPM for Python 2 clients?
But I will reiterate that the prebuilt binary RPMs are built for _stock_
RedHat (and hopefully the systems used to build the non-RedHat binaries are
stock, as well).
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On Friday 13 July 2001 14:47, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
Lamar Owen writes:
But I will reiterate that the prebuilt binary RPMs are built for _stock_
RedHat (and hopefully the systems used to build the non-RedHat binaries
are stock, as well).
Maybe the directory naming on the ftp site should
will be when making
backups using pg_dump or pg_dumpall. You may need to pipe the output of
those commands into a file splitting utility, and then you'll have to pipe
through a reassembly utility to restore.
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should not
do this to postmaster.
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by this time
tomorrow.
/etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql start by now should succeed.
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David Pieper wrote:
I'm trying to build 7.1 from source on a RedHat box.
Here's what I keep ending up with:
From the gcc version it appears you are on a RedHat 6.x box.
It seems like I'm missing something, but what?
kernel-headers?
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? Satisfy those
dependencies, and properly set up for client-server communications with
a postgresql server, and it _should_ just _work_.
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substantially changed for glibc
2.2.2. It is a glibc 2.2.2 issue, not a PostgreSQL one -- as the same
codein PostgreSQLO (strcoll) is being used. We will see how things pan
out with locale on glibc 2.2.2, as, like I said, there are big changes,
apparently.
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jars to ship as part of
the RPM, or get time to install the pieces necessary to build JDBC on
RH6.2, RH7.0, and RH7.1.
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on
the reporter to elaborate what was meant by '..the locale
supportbroken...'.
Which case-sensitivity issue? The one about table and column names? Or
a different one? (sitting confused in Pisgah Forest)
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and servers moved this week and next.
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', 'postgresql-libs-7.1-1',
and 'postgresql-server-7.1-1'. The reasons for this are explained in
the README.rpm-dist file found on the website as well as in the RPM.
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Tulio Oliveira wrote:
Please, is any configuration more to make on 7.1, or exist a new postdrv.exe
???
See http://www.greatbridge.org/project/psqlodbcplus/projdisplay.php
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. That of course means that
there is no copyright associated with it; thus no license at all.
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the python package by:
rpm --define "python 0" -ba postgresql.spec
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t actively using the old PostgreSQL, and have the RPMset
files to reinstall, you should be safe in issuing an 'rpm -e' for each
postgresql rpm that 'rpm -qa|grep postgresql' returns.
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would you recommend)? Thanks.
Oh, and BTW: when you rpm-e postgresql, you have to put all of the rpms
on one line, or the circular dependencies that sometimes have been
present will bite you.
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On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Bruce Momjian wrote:
Lamar Owen wrote:
As a matter of fact, I am an ordained Baptist minister. Don't
know about Bruce -- other than I like his catchy .sig... :-)
Wow, pretty cool. I am just an underling. :-)
Well, we're all underlings. At most I can
I remember having this problem. You need to pass the '-i' switch.
Try: '-B 1024 -i'
Add the line '-B 1024' to /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_options along with the
-i that is there already, then restart with '/etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql
restart'.
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"Poul L. Christiansen" wrote:
H, don't you mean /var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.opts ?
Yes, I do. Monday morning. :-) GUC is much nicer in 7.1..one
file.
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at you. You do need a complete
development system, including the python developmet libraries, and at
least version 3.0.5 of RPM.
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as an exercise for the reader :-).
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release will definitely have
RH 7 binaries) is to rebuild from the source RPM on all BUT RedHat 6.2.
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site lists a couple of archives, but neither have
PostgreSQL 7 RPM's. The latest Qube RPM for PostgreSQL that I have
found is for 6.5.3.
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, is in the backend itself and is fully automatic.
Hardcoded row limits on the amount of data per row (there is still a
limit on the number of _columns_ in a row, but not on the size of each
column) are gone in 7.1.
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is first brought up on the
table in question, or even a standalone migration utility that doesn't
require an old version of the backend to read the old version files),
but I wouldn't hold your breath.
Yes, the existing scheme is a little baroque -- but it's better than it
used to be.
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server has 7.1beta3 installed.
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reasons.
Seems there was a great deal of Postgres-bashing from the MySQL side not
long ago.
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Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
Will there be RPMs for this beta? (Whoever makes the RPMs ;))
I do, and am working on them. There are a few changes I have to
integrate from various sources, as well as stress-testing the build,
etc. Look for RPM's Sunday, possibly sooner.
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in KFM and the GNOME file manager -- they were trying to open
the README with kpackage or GNoRPM
Thanks for the quick answers, Peter.
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Alfred Perlstein wrote:
Lamar Owen wrote:
But, then again, if the default settings are so bad performance-wise,
why _are_ they the default anyway? There should be good reason, of
course, but I think maybe the defaults could or should be revisited as
to applicability.
I can understand
inations with certain programs.
Mandrake is known for aggressive -O settings.
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.
But, unless you do chunking, it _does_ affect dumpfile size. Someone
posted awhile back a script that did dumpchunking. Should be in the
archives.
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tiple full
processes for older Apache's.
Multithreading is a big win for clients that generate multiple
connections -- it's not a big win for backends that serve multiple
connections. IMHO.
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Rich Shepard wrote:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000, Lamar Owen wrote:
The result of 'rpm -qa|grep postgres' would be educational here.
[root@salmo rshepard]# rpm -qa | grep postgres
postgresql-server-6.5.3-1
postgresql-test-6.5.3-1
postgresql-7.0.3-2
"Aha, I said. The rpm database t
/init.d/postgresql start' and it will both
initdb and start the postmaster for you.
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place -- I
guess a -2 RPMset is in order.
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bug, the 7.0.3-2
RedHat-style RPMset has experimental build support for ia64, as well as
better build support for PowerPC, which prevents building with too high
an optimization level.
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permissions, you will get an error.
To correct this problem, set your permissions appropriately in the
directory you wish to use.
Hope that helps!
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using?
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hasn't yet released a 7.0.3 patch.
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error on my part, really.
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a Red Hat mailing list, rather than sent
here? Thanks!
pgsql-ports for PostgreSQL related stuff. I will announce soon some
exciting news related to the RPM's, as well as a dedicated
'postgresqlrpms' mailing list, and the RPM spec files, patches, etc,
under a public CVS server.
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Adam Lang wrote:
But it don't help if you downloaded the OS. ;)
If you downloaded the RedHat CD ISO images, OR the ftp dirs, you got the
postgresql RPM's, unless you specifically excluded them.
And you can certainly get them from RedHat's ftp site, as busy as it is.
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ure switch (it exists both in CURRENT and
REL7_0_PATCHES in CVS).
so the question is: if I put syslog = 2 in pg_options, it will work
in a rh7 with postgres out of the box ?
Yes, it should. The patch was necessary for 7.0.2, but not for later
than that.
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to get it to run, send the patches my way so we
can make it just a simple --rebuild for most folks.
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/390 and Apache.
However, if you want to see the architecture of a _large_
database-backed website, see the story behind Digital City at
www.aolserver.com. While they're using Sybase instead of PostgreSQL,
the architecture is the same.
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me know.
The relevance is that most who use it don't really care where the stuff
is. They just want to upgrade.
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when libpq.so.2.1 came on the scene). I think the answer is no, but I
haven't checked the details yet.
Not just libpq, though -- libpgtcl.so has also been problematic.
Of course, the file format on disk changes (again!), which is a whole
'nother issue for RPM's..
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by Unix standards, but is according
to ISO standards.
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(and always had) a BSD
license -- which means there is no license restriction on
'proprietizing' PostgreSQL code.
But, as many others have said, the core team seems to have a good hold on
reality and their ethics, so it probably won't come to an issue. :)
This is the real safeguard.
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phasize how important a smooth upgrade is to a distribution maker
like Red Hat.
I am looking at the feasibility of the upgrade utility I mentioned a few
weeks ago, and am finding it rough going. But, we'll see.
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'policy' is the lack of assigning developer time to fixing the
problem. Smooth upgrades could easily be sold as a major feature.
IMHO.
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Mset, grab the source RPM for php, rebuild
it using (as root) rpm --rebuild php*.src.rpm, and install the freshly
built packages with rpm -i from /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386. Of course,
that rebuild will require a relatively complete development machine...
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Tressens Lionel wrote:
Le 07.09.00 a 14:23, "Lamar Owen" m'ecrivait :
It is coming back with a dependency for libpq.so.2.0
I had this problem. I created a symlink for this file and a told rpm not
to check dependies, and it worked.
rpm --nodeps -ivh ...
And, i
ux looking for good database for use in linux
to switch over from using access..
PostgreSQL comes with a nice front end called pgaccess that will do most
if not all of what you need under linux. You will be setting it up
client-server -- just having the client and the server on the same
machine.
t-in upper()?
Is there a type mismatch problem I'm not seeing? Why do you need to do
this?
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as upper
should also work with varchar by default.
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to simply
relink in this way. It may work for you (as it does for me with
pl/perl, and for Karl DeBisschop), but it is highly unlikely it will
work for everyone, and it is likely to cause performance issues even if
it does work.
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