[HACKERS] extract(timezone_hour) problem

2003-03-28 Thread Key88 SF
I understand that internally, Postgres converts timestamps to a GMT format and then redisplays them in the local timezone. cf: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.LNX.4.30.0110100104320.672-10%40peter.localdomain&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain However --> doesn't this make the extract(timezone

Re: [HACKERS] Changing behavior of BEGIN...sleep...do something...COMMIT

2003-03-28 Thread Jon Jensen
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Tom Lane wrote: > It seems to me that it'd be fairly easy to make BEGIN cause only > a local state change in the backend; the actual transaction need not > start until the first subsequent command is received. [snip] > In a very real sense, the transaction snapshot defines "wh

[HACKERS] Changing behavior of BEGIN...sleep...do something...COMMIT

2003-03-28 Thread Tom Lane
A conversation with Andrew Sullivan led me to the following idea: We have a number of frontends that like to issue BEGIN immediately after COMMIT; so that if the client does nothing for awhile after finishing one transaction, the backend nonetheless sees it as being in a transaction. This creates

Re: [HACKERS] updateable cursors & visibility

2003-03-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Hiroshi Inoue wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Hiroshi Inoue wrote: > > > > > If the cursor is INSENSITIVE, it mustn't see the row ? > > > > > > > > Right. > > > > > > If so, isn't the difference between SENSITIVE and INSENSITIVE ext

Re: [HACKERS] updateable cursors & visibility

2003-03-28 Thread Hiroshi Inoue
> -Original Message- > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hiroshi Inoue wrote: > > > > If the cursor is INSENSITIVE, it mustn't see the row ? > > > > > > Right. > > > > If so, isn't the difference between SENSITIVE and INSENSITIVE extreme ? > > Yes. > > > Why do you or P

Re: [HACKERS] updateable cursors & visibility

2003-03-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Hiroshi Inoue wrote: > > > If the cursor is INSENSITIVE, it mustn't see the row ? > > > > Right. > > If so, isn't the difference between SENSITIVE and INSENSITIVE extreme ? Yes. > Why do you or Peter refer to ASENSITIVE little ? Not sure --- ASENSITIVE seems to be "do whatever you want", which

Re: [HACKERS] updateable cursors & visibility

2003-03-28 Thread Hiroshi Inoue
> -Original Message- > From: Bruce Momjian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hiroshi Inoue wrote: > > > > I don't understand what you two are discussing. > > > > What's is SENSITIVE, INSENSITIVE or ASESNSITIVE ? > > > > > > In SQL99 standard, I see: > > > > > > - If the cursor is i

Re: [HACKERS] What's a good PostgreSQL guide book?

2003-03-28 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
"Gary Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm thinking of buying "Practical PostgreSQL" from O'Reilly. > > Has anyone got any comments on this book? As Christopher Browne pointes out, some of the information is outdated. My real criticism, though, would be that *far* too much of a book abou

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread Steve Wampler
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 14:39, mlw wrote: > I was thinking of using SOAP over HTTP as the protocol, and a > minimalist version at best. If the people want "more" let them add it. > > I have an HTTP service class in my open source library. It would br > trivial to accept a SQL query formatted as a G

Re: [HACKERS] Detecting corrupted pages earlier

2003-03-28 Thread Tom Lane
Kris Jurka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is zeroing the pages the only / best option? It's the only way to avoid a core dump when the system tries to process the page. And no, I don't want to propagate the notion that "this page is broken" beyond the buffer manager, so testing elsewhere isn't an

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread mlw
Jason M. Felice wrote: First, a SOAP query should be posted in SOAP message format, not using the query string as you do. Second, I like the idea of calling external SOAP services, but consider creating a language 'soap' you could do with a CREATE FUNCTION type thing. e.g. CREATE FUNCTIO

Re: [HACKERS] Detecting corrupted pages earlier

2003-03-28 Thread Kris Jurka
On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Tom Lane wrote: > Hiroshi Inoue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How about adding a new option to skip corrupted pages ? > > I have committed changes to implement checking for damaged page headers, > along the lines of last month's discussion. It includes a GUC variable > to

[HACKERS] EXPLAIN ANALYZE in comparable units

2003-03-28 Thread Jason M. Felice
I'm curious if anyone's considered adding logic to count actual disk/cache hits to report for EXPLAIN ANALYZE so that we get a more apples-to-apples comparison? The other question is whether anyone has got scripts or tools or what not for testing and getting accurate numbers for the following tuni

Re: [HACKERS] Detecting corrupted pages earlier

2003-03-28 Thread Tom Lane
Hiroshi Inoue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about adding a new option to skip corrupted pages ? I have committed changes to implement checking for damaged page headers, along the lines of last month's discussion. It includes a GUC variable to control the response as suggested by Hiroshi. Giv

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread Jason M. Felice
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 01:36:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Of course, CORBA has actually been quite formally standardized, suffers > from many fairly interoperable implementations, and is rather a lot less > bloated than any of the XML-based schemes. It might be worth trying, > too... T

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread cbbrowne
Jason wrote: > If you can support xmlrpc instead, you'll save yourself a lot of headaches. XML-RPC has three merits over SOAP: 1. It's a simple specification, and thus readily implemented. 2. Microsoft and IBM aren't fighting over control over it, so it's not suffering from the "we keep

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread Jason M. Felice
First, a SOAP query should be posted in SOAP message format, not using the query string as you do. Second, I like the idea of calling external SOAP services, but consider creating a language 'soap' you could do with a CREATE FUNCTION type thing. e.g. CREATE FUNCTION "foo" (TEXT) RETURNS INTEGER A

Re: [HACKERS] ECPG thread-safety

2003-03-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Yep. I need someone who knows these OS's to get some tests together. --- Shridhar Daithankar wrote: > On Friday 28 March 2003 21:45, you wrote: > > For testing the library, I think it is enough to init an thread attr. like

Re: [HACKERS] ECPG thread-safety

2003-03-28 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Friday 28 March 2003 21:45, you wrote: > For testing the library, I think it is enough to init an thread attr. like > pthread_init_attr, that should be enough to test header and library. And compiler flags, I forgot.. -pthread on freeBSD/gcc and -D_REENTRANT on linux at least. FreeBSD needs _T

Re: [HACKERS] ECPG thread-safety

2003-03-28 Thread Shridhar Daithankar
On Friday 28 March 2003 21:30, you wrote: > Would someone take those patches and hunt around for proper 'configure' > tests? I can do the configure coding, but I don't know what tests to > make. > > http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ I also need configure tests for thread for one of my o

Re: [HACKERS] ECPG thread-safety

2003-03-28 Thread Lee Kindness
I must have spent at least a day looking at configure threads tests the past few months. Look at the tests in Python, OpenLDAP, MySQL, Apache 2.0, Perl, ... each and everyone of them is different! Ouch. Way above my experience in configure. One of the packages (sorry cannot find my notes on which

Re: [HACKERS] updateable cursors & visibility

2003-03-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
Hiroshi Inoue wrote: > > > I don't understand what you two are discussing. > > > What's is SENSITIVE, INSENSITIVE or ASESNSITIVE ? > > > > In SQL99 standard, I see: > > > > - If the cursor is insensitive, then significant changes are not > > visible. > > > > - If

[HACKERS] new release of contrib/tsearch V2

2003-03-28 Thread Oleg Bartunov
Hi there, we just released new version of tsearch V2. It's available for testing form http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/postgres/gist/ Changes: * new function reset_tsearch() - reset all tsearch's caches on dictionary, parser and config. Useful for debugging. * It's possible to get words st

[HACKERS] PostgreSQL and SOAP, version 7.4/8.0

2003-03-28 Thread mlw
I have been working on moving some of my software to a more SOAP compatible interface. As I was doing it, it occured to me that a generic function could be written, in PostgreSQL's new function manager that allows multiple columns to be returned, that is a generic SOAP interface. All one would

Re: [HACKERS] DEFAULT in

2003-03-28 Thread Rod Taylor
I'll look into it... On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 20:14, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: > > (the list of SET expressions in an UPDATE statement; > > section 14.12) allows a on the > > right-hand side of SET assignments. One of the possibilities for a > > is DEFAULT (section 6.5). > > > > In other word

[HACKERS] ECPG thread-safety

2003-03-28 Thread Lee Kindness
Philip, You can find the "patch so far" at: http://services.csl.co.uk/postgresql/ along with a libpq thread-safe patch. The thread referenced by Bruce's email details some of the issues still to be looked at. The main work is integration with the build system (testing for and linking in POSIX