Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On mån, 2009-08-17 at 14:29 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Since I'd need to install haskell on my system before installing pandoc, > I've attached my "final" edit of the RST file so that I don't hold > things up. committed that -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org)

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Since I'd need to install haskell on my system before installing pandoc, I've attached my "final" edit of the RST file so that I don't hold things up. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com .. -*- mode: rst -*- = Release 8.5alpha1 = Overv

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On mån, 2009-08-17 at 10:39 -0700, Josh Berkus wrote: > Peter, > > Attached is a new draft of the "release notes". > > What I've done in this version is added more subsections and arranged > stuff into groups by funcitonality area. I think this makes the notes > vastly easier to scan; having 25

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus writes: > Also, does the ADD/DROP COLUMN plpgsql patch fix any cases other than > RETURNS QUERY? I can't tell from the patch. Yes, I believe it does, but hadn't bothered to work up any test cases. The places it touched in plpgsql are * returning a single composite value

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
Tom, > Actually, present tense is our general style for the release notes, and > I had carefully made them all present tense ;-). It doesn't appear to > me that you've been consistent about it here anyway. OK, switching back to present tense then. Does anyone else see anything missing? Also, d

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus writes: > Particularly, we seemed to vacillate between present and past tense for > the patch descriptions. I have changed all to past tense. Actually, present tense is our general style for the release notes, and I had carefully made them all present tense ;-). It doesn't appear to

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus writes: > On 8/17/09 11:51 AM, Tom Lane wrote: >> I went over this quickly, and attach an updated version. This is >> updated to current CVS HEAD, and wordsmithed a little bit, and I removed >> some things that didn't seem worth documenting. In particular, the >> introduction claims

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
All, New version, incorporating Tom's changes and some additional reordering. Particularly, we seemed to vacillate between present and past tense for the patch descriptions. I have changed all to past tense. Also, should we be adding patch author names to these notes? -- Josh Berkus PostgreS

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
On 8/17/09 11:51 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > I went over this quickly, and attach an updated version. This is > updated to current CVS HEAD, and wordsmithed a little bit, and I removed > some things that didn't seem worth documenting. In particular, the > introduction claims that back-patched bug fixes

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Tom Lane
Josh Berkus writes: > Attached is a new draft of the "release notes". I went over this quickly, and attach an updated version. This is updated to current CVS HEAD, and wordsmithed a little bit, and I removed some things that didn't seem worth documenting. In particular, the introduction claims

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-17 Thread Josh Berkus
Peter, Attached is a new draft of the "release notes". What I've done in this version is added more subsections and arranged stuff into groups by funcitonality area. I think this makes the notes vastly easier to scan; having 25 items generically under "server" wasn't helpful at all to find featu

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Bruce Momjian
Tom Lane wrote: > "Massa, Harald Armin" writes: > > within source code, build options there is: > > - Reserve the shared memory region during backend startup on Windows, > > so that memory allocated by starting third party DLLs doesn't end up > > conflicting with it. Hopefully this solves the

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera writes: > Tom Lane wrote: >> In any case, it is not the function of the alpha release notes to >> discuss changes in earlier release branches. The reason the commit >> log points out the back-patch is to make it easier to extract the >> information when we prepare release notes for

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Tom Lane wrote: > In any case, it is not the function of the alpha release notes to > discuss changes in earlier release branches. The reason the commit > log points out the back-patch is to make it easier to extract the > information when we prepare release notes for the back-branch updates. Hm

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Tom Lane
"Massa, Harald Armin" writes: > within source code, build options there is: > - Reserve the shared memory region during backend startup on Windows, > so that memory allocated by starting third party DLLs doesn't end up > conflicting with it. Hopefully this solves the long-time issue with >

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Thursday 13 August 2009 17:07:38 Alvaro Herrera wrote: > I wonder if this format can be converted to SGML DocBook automatically. Yes, that's why I used it. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mai

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Dimitri Fontaine wrote: > > Hi, > > Josh Berkus writes: > > Will do. Teaching myself RST now > > I've been doing a lot of RST editing before, and found it pretty > straightforward. Except for default table handling, where ascii-art > maintenance is a pain, or you have to use extended tool

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Massa, Harald Armin
within source code, build options there is: - Reserve the shared memory region during backend startup on Windows, so that memory allocated by starting third party DLLs doesn't end up conflicting with it. Hopefully this solves the long-time issue with "could not reattach to shared memory" er

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-13 Thread Dimitri Fontaine
Hi, Josh Berkus writes: > Will do. Teaching myself RST now I've been doing a lot of RST editing before, and found it pretty straightforward. Except for default table handling, where ascii-art maintenance is a pain, or you have to use extended tools, like emacs table mode and such. Or use

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Josh Berkus
On 8/12/09 11:13 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On Wednesday 12 August 2009 19:27:06 Josh Berkus wrote: >>> Can you export DocBook from that? >> Not without writing some custom perl code, no. >> >> Should we stick your release notes on git somewhere? I'd like to expand >> the and add a couple of th

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 19:27:06 Josh Berkus wrote: > > Can you export DocBook from that? > > Not without writing some custom perl code, no. > > Should we stick your release notes on git somewhere? I'd like to expand > the and add a couple of things. I say just take the file and edit it. --

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Josh Berkus
> Can you export DocBook from that? Not without writing some custom perl code, no. Should we stick your release notes on git somewhere? I'd like to expand the and add a couple of things. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. www.pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-h

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-12 Thread Peter Eisentraut
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 03:34:22 Josh Berkus wrote: > On 8/11/09 3:27 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > > OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release > > notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. > > Actually, the "consensus" was that Br

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas writes: > Hmm, I thought we had some examples in there, but now that I look we > only have an example for COSTS OFF, not for FORMAT. That does seem > like an oversight. I thought about adding one when I committed the patch, but concluded that there was no point until the output forma

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Robert Haas
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > Mike wrote: > >> The thing that caused me the most trouble was that the "," wasn't very >> noticeable sitting near the end of this line: >> >> EXPLAIN [ ( { ANALYZE boolean | VERBOSE boolean | COSTS boolean | >> FORMAT { TEXT | XML | JSON } }

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Josh Berkus
On 8/11/09 3:27 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release > notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. Actually, the "consensus" was that Bruce was not going to share, so Robert and I didn't want to bothe

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Mike wrote: > The thing that caused me the most trouble was that the "," wasn't very > noticeable sitting near the end of this line: > > EXPLAIN [ ( { ANALYZE boolean | VERBOSE boolean | COSTS boolean | > FORMAT { TEXT | XML | JSON } } [, ...] ) ] statement > > It may just be me, but I read that

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Mike
If I didn't read this email I would still be trying to figure out how to use the explain XML patch. Thanks Albert. I found the syntax for the explain xml format to be quite difficult to understand at first, it would be nice to give an example or two, ie: EXPLAIN (ANALYZE, FORMAT XML) SELECT * FRO

Re: [HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dimecres, 12 d'agost de 2009, Peter Eisentraut va escriure: > OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release > notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. > > (reStructuredText, if you want to play around) Maybe I'd be interesting to add d

[HACKERS] Alpha 1 release notes

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Eisentraut
OK, since there was no clear consensus or volunteer for preparing release notes for alpha 1, I have started something. Let me know what you think. (reStructuredText, if you want to play around) .. -*- mode: rst -*- = Release 8.5alpha1 = .. last commit: Simplify an