BAD sig (was: Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database...)

2003-01-23 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
The keep-annoying-everybody-until-it-really-works caompain gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) gpg: Signature made Mit 22 Jan 2003 18:43:21 CET using DSA key ID 8C3ABF0C gpg: BAD signature from Rod Taylor (Database Developer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mit, 2003-01-22 at 18:43, Rod

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-22 Thread greg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is this very different from how it's done at present? Yes. :) I'd like to play Devil's Advocate a bit on the whole backward-compatible psql issue. First, I have not seen a lot of clamor for this sort of thing. Second, psql comes bundled with

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-22 Thread Daniel Kalchev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'd support making psql 7.3 and forward be aware of the backend they are connecting to, and support them being able to work against all 7.3+ servers, but I still fail to see the pressing need for a backward-compatible version when the correct one is always

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-22 Thread Rod Taylor
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 11:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is this very different from how it's done at present? Yes. :) I'd like to play Devil's Advocate a bit on the whole backward-compatible psql issue. First, I have not seen a lot of

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-18 Thread Justin Clift
Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: With ever more larger businesses adopting PostgreSQL, and that leading on to more places having several versions of PostgreSQL in operation simultaneously (i.e. development vs production) we're probably going to need to give psql the ability to handle whichever

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-17 Thread Justin Clift
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I have strongly considered doing this, and even started on the project some time ago. (I've stopped now). At first I wanted to add 7.3 and 7.4 features to a 7.2 psql. Then I considered writing a master psql that could handle any backend. In the end, however, I

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-17 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
With ever more larger businesses adopting PostgreSQL, and that leading on to more places having several versions of PostgreSQL in operation simultaneously (i.e. development vs production) we're probably going to need to give psql the ability to handle whichever version of the PG backend it

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-16 Thread greg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message Well, it is open source, so there's no reason why someone couldn't make these changes for 7.4 and also release a binary version in the mean time. I have a copy of a 7.2 psql binary for linux

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-11 Thread Robert Treat
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:34:22 -0500, Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2003, Lamar Owen wrote: On Friday 10 January 2003 23:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote: That was the aspect I feared ... almost an argument in itself for why psql should be in gborg as a seperate project ;) You've got

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-11 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
these changes for 7.4 and also release a binary version in the mean time. I have a copy of a 7.2 psql binary for linux that that has some of the 7.3 psql improvments in it, sometimes it comes in very handy. I'd be interested in helping out with this, though Christopher would probably start

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Treat
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 12:30, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Is there any way of fixing the following? 164_459_openacs= \d ERROR: parser: parse error at or near . 164_459_openacs= We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Marc G. Fournier writes: We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards compatible? The meta-commands are not, because they now need to be schema aware. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards compatible? The meta-commands are not, because they now need to be schema aware. How

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards compatible? The meta-commands are not, because they now

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Bruce Momjian wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: We've started to upgrade the client machines, before upgrading the server itself, but it looks like the psql client isn't backwards

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Bruce Momjian
Marc G. Fournier wrote: How hard would it be to add in a simple version check, like Robert Treat suggested? Where, when you type in \d, it uses a pre-v7.3 schema if attached to a pre-v7.3 server? With the changes that have gone in since v7.3.1, we're going to need to do a v7.3.2

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday 10 January 2003 23:50, Marc G. Fournier wrote: That was the aspect I feared ... almost an argument in itself for why psql should be in gborg as a seperate project ;) You've got to be kidding. The main command-line interface NEEDS to be part of the main package. The solution is to

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Christopher Kings-Lynne
Right. It is just the _cruft_ factor that has prevented us from doing it in the past. Well, you could always have the function library for each different version in a different shared lib which you load on demand. Alternatively, follow the phpPgAdmin3 style and have a class 'Postgres71' and

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right. It is just the _cruft_ factor that has prevented us from doing it in the past. We've never before attempted to make psql cope with back-version servers. It might be a good idea in future --- but it strikes me as a new feature (and not a trivial

Re: [HACKERS] v7.3.1 psql against a v7.2.x database ...

2003-01-10 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Right. It is just the _cruft_ factor that has prevented us from doing it in the past. We've never before attempted to make psql cope with back-version servers. It might be a good idea in future --- but it