Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL, NetBSD and NFS

2003-01-30 Thread Greg Copeland
of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our

Re: [HACKERS] Win32 port powerfail testing

2003-02-01 Thread Greg Copeland
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 00:34, Adam Haberlach wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2003 at 12:27:31AM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 14:36, Dave Page wrote: I intend to run the tests on a Dual PIII 1GHz box, with 1Gb of Non-ECC RAM and a 20Gb (iirc) IDE disk. I will run on Windows

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-02 Thread Greg Copeland
signed and can reasonably verify that the signing key is safe and/or can be verified, confidence should be high in the signed package. I certainly have no problem with people signing my key nor with signing others as long as we can verify/authenticate each others keys prior. Regards, -- Greg

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
signed with a key which can be readily validated from multiple independent sources. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 13:55, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:24:14PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote: On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 20:23, Marc G. Fournier wrote: right, that is why we started to provide md5 checksums ... md5 checksums only validate that the intended package

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
across America and the around the world, surely it's good enough to help propagate key information for signing packages. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-03 Thread Greg Copeland
. Of course, nothing beats meeting in person having valid ID and fingerprints in hand. ;) Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-04 Thread Greg Copeland
generated, it should not leave his eyes until it has been signed. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-04 Thread Greg Copeland
are not, in of themselves, a security mechanism. I can't stress this enough. There really isn't any comparison here. Please stop comparing apples and oranges. No matter how hard you try, you can not make orange juice from apples. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-04 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 16:13, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:04:01PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote: Even improperly used, digital signatures should never be worse than simple checksums. Having said that, anyone that is trusting checksums as a form of authenticity validation

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-05 Thread Greg Copeland
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 00:22, Curt Sampson wrote: On Wed, 4 Feb 2003, Greg Copeland wrote: If three people are required to sign a package prior to release, what happens when one of them is unavailable for signing (vacation, hospital, etc). This is one of the reasons why having a single

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL, NetBSD and NFS

2003-02-05 Thread Greg Copeland
, I'm curious as to why you think adjusting the MTU may have an effect on this. Lowering the MTU may actually increase fragmentation, lower efficiency, and even exacerbate the situation. Is this purely a diagnostic suggestion? Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-06 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 18:27, Curt Sampson wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 16:13, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:04:01PM -0600, Greg Copeland wrote: Even improperly used, digital signatures should never be worse than simple checksums. Having said that, anyone

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
not provide for authentication and even more importantly, verification of authentication. These concepts are key to creating a secure environment. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 21:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Benchmarks

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
between PHP and PostgreSQL. Does anyone know if we can rule out some of the performance loss by pinning it to bad middleware implementation for PostgreSQL? Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Benchmarks

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
, however, I have no idea if MySQL's HEAP supports them. For all I know, transactions are being silently ignored. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing releases

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 18:53, Curt Sampson wrote: On Thu, 5 Feb 2003, Greg Copeland wrote: Who will actually hold the key? Where will it be physically kept? Good question but can usually be addressed. It can be addressed, but how well? This is another big issue that I

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default configuration (was Re: [pgsql-advocacy]

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
. ;) Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/users-lounge/docs/faq.html

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default configuration (was Re:

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 11:23, mlw wrote: Greg Copeland wrote: I'd personally rather have people stumble trying to get PostgreSQL running, up front, rather than allowing the lowest common denominator more easily run PostgreSQL only to be disappointed with it and move on. After it's

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default configuration (was Re:

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
relate to the web. I'm thinking I'm not alone. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command

Re: [HACKERS] Windows SHMMAX (was: Default configuration)

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
/mapped via pagefile. This is the preferred means of memory mapped files unless you have a specific need which dictates otherwise. Meaning, it allows for many supposed optimizations to be used by the OS as it is suppose to bypass some of the filesystem overhead. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing release

2003-02-11 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:27, Curt Sampson wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2003, Greg Copeland wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 18:53, Curt Sampson wrote: [Re: everybody sharing a single key] This issue doesn't change regardless of the mechanism you pick. Anyone that is signing a key must take

Re: [HACKERS] Changing the default configuration

2003-02-12 Thread Greg Copeland
rather see people have to knowingly increase the limit rather than bump into system upper limits and start scratching their heads trying to figure out what the heck is going on. -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast

Re: [HACKERS] PGP signing release

2003-02-12 Thread Greg Copeland
. --- Greg Copeland wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 18:27, Curt Sampson wrote: On Wed, 11 Feb 2003, Greg Copeland wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 18:53, Curt Sampson wrote: [Re: everybody sharing a single key] This issue doesn't change regardless

Re: [HACKERS] Incremental backup

2003-02-14 Thread Greg Copeland
. :-) I do imagine for some people it will register high on their list. -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail

Re: [HACKERS] Detecting corrupted pages earlier

2003-02-18 Thread Greg Copeland
pattern doesn't match it's page number accordingly, you know something is wrong. Storage cost tends to be slightly and CPU overhead low. I agree with you that a CRC is seems overkill for little return. Regards, -- Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Copeland Computer Consulting

Re: [HACKERS] Roadmap for a Win32 port

2002-06-18 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-06-18 at 09:07, Jan Wieck wrote: Dann Corbit wrote: The startup stuff for PostgreSQL is just a few files. It does not seem insurmountable to change it. But it is none of my business. If it is a major hassle (for reasons which I am not aware) then I see no driving

Re: [HACKERS] RAMDISK

2002-07-23 Thread Greg Copeland
Interesting results. You didn't really offer much in how your system was configured to use the ramdisk. Did you use it to simply store a database on it? Was the entire database able to fit into available memory even without the RAMDISK? Did you try only storing indicies on the RAMDISK? There

Re: [HACKERS] CVS server problem!

2002-08-01 Thread Greg Copeland
Seems the CVS server is not working correctly. I just deleted my CVS tree and did a fresh checkout of the pgsql module. Everything seemingly went well. After the check out completed, I did: [gcope@mouse pgsql]$ ./configure --with-tcl --with-java --with-python --with-perl checking build

Re: [HACKERS] cvs checkout pgsql

2002-08-01 Thread Greg Copeland
Looks like I replied to the wrong thread...here's a repeat... Seems the CVS server is not working correctly. I just deleted my CVS tree and did a fresh checkout of the pgsql module. Everything seemingly went well. After the check out completed, I did: [gcope@mouse pgsql]$ ./configure

Re: [HACKERS] CVS server problem!

2002-08-01 Thread Greg Copeland
this), so by the time you receive, a checkout should grab the right structures ... Let me know if it works now for you ... On 1 Aug 2002, Greg Copeland wrote: Seems the CVS server is not working correctly. I just deleted my CVS tree and did a fresh checkout of the pgsql module. Everything

Re: [HACKERS] Why is MySQL more chosen over PostgreSQL?

2002-08-02 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 22:39, Curt Sampson wrote: On 1 Aug 2002, Greg Copeland wrote: For some reason, many of the developers are under the impression that even if code is never touched, it has a very high level of effort to keep it in the code base. That is, of course, completely

Re: [HACKERS] Why is MySQL more chosen over PostgreSQL?

2002-08-01 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:54, Hannu Krosing wrote: On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 16:00, Curt Sampson wrote: On 30 Jul 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 14:51, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: Bruce Momjian: It causes too much complexity in other parts of the

Re: [HACKERS] Why is MySQL more chosen over PostgreSQL?

2002-08-02 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 23:30, Tom Lane wrote: Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to find this argument a lot on the list here. For some reason, many of the developers are under the impression that even if code is never touched, it has a very high level of effort to keep

Re: [HACKERS] WAL file location

2002-08-02 Thread Greg Copeland
On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 22:20, Bruce Momjian wrote: I am wondering why we even want to specify the WAL location anywhere except as a flag to initdb. If you specify a location at initdb time, it creates the /xlog directory, then symlinks it into /data. Does this have any negative implications

Re: [HACKERS] WAL file location

2002-08-02 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-08-02 at 13:46, Thomas Lockhart wrote: I am wondering why we even want to specify the WAL location anywhere except as a flag to initdb. If you specify a location at initdb time, it creates the /xlog directory, then symlinks it into /data. Does this have any negative

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-10 Thread Greg Copeland
On Sat, 2002-08-10 at 00:25, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Ralph Graulich wrote: Hi, just my two cents worth: I like having the files sized in a way I can handle them easily with any UNIX tool on nearly any system. No matter wether I want to cp, tar, dump, dd, cat or gzip the file: Just keep it

Re: [HACKERS] python patch

2002-08-11 Thread Greg Copeland
. --- Greg Copeland wrote: Checking application/pgp-signature: FAILURE -- Start of PGP signed section. Well, that certainly appeared to be very straight forward. pg.py and syscat.py scripts were both modified. pg.py

Re: [HACKERS] [SECURITY] DoS attack on backend possible (was: Re:

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
. IMO, any known buffer overrun is worthy of an emergency fix and corresponding advisory. Greg Copeland On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 12:09, Tom Lane wrote: Justin Clift [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am I understanding this right: - A PostgreSQL 7.2.1 server can be crashed if it gets passed certain

Re: [HACKERS] OOP real life example (was Re: Why is MySQL more

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 00:29, Hannu Krosing wrote: On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 11:52, Curt Sampson wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Don Baccus wrote: [snip] But anyway, I have no particularly huge objection to syntatic sugar alone. I do have objections to it when it's not saving much typing. (It is

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 09:39, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2002 at 09:21:07AM -0500, Greg Copeland wrote: I'm actually amazed that postgres isn't already using large file support. Especially for tools like dump. Except it would only cause confusion if you ran such a program

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 10:30, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 10:15:46AM -0500, Greg Copeland wrote: If by turn...on, you mean recompile, that's a horrible idea IMO. Ah. Well, that is what I meant. Why is it horrible? PostgreSQL doesn't take very long to compile

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 11:04, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 11:44:24AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: keep discussing the issues involved, and I'll see what comes of it. I don't have an direct experience with the largefile support, and am learning as I go with this. I do

Re: [HACKERS] OOP real life example (was Re: Why is MySQL more

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 10:39, Oliver Elphick wrote: On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 15:00, Greg Copeland wrote: How exactly would you create an abstract base class for table type? CREATE TABLE abstract_base ( cols ..., CONSTRAINT No data allowed in table abstract_base! CHECK (1 = 0

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 11:40, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 11:07:51AM -0500, Greg Copeland wrote: Many reasons. A DBA is not always the same thing as a developer (which means it's doubtful he's even going to know about needed options to pass -- if any

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS\

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 11:48, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 11:17:31AM -0500, Greg Copeland wrote: [snip] There are, in any case, _lots_ of problems with these large files. All of those are SA issues. So is compiling the software correctly, if the distinction has

Re: [HACKERS] python patch

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 21:15, Christopher Kings-Lynne wrote: Not a problem. I would rather them be correct. Worth noting that the first patch is what attempts to fix the long - int overflow issue. The second patch attempts to resolve attisdropped column use issues with the python

Re: [HACKERS] OOP real life example (was Re: Why is MySQL more

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 20:34, Curt Sampson wrote: Ok, big bundled up reply here to various people. From: Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] What makes things more confusing is poor understanding of a feature, not the feature itself. Agreed. Just because a feature may not be well

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 18:41, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: On Mon, Aug 12, 2002 at 11:30:36AM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote: The problem is not just a system-level one, but a filesystem-level one. Enabling 64 bits by default might be dangerous, because a DBA might think oh, it supports

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/src

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 23:09, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, seeing as no one voted, and only Tom and I objected originally, we will keep the code as Thomas has applied it, namely that PGXLOG/-X is recognized by initdb, postmaster, postgres, and pg_ctl. We

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/src

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
. Requiring soft links also doesn't strike me as a good portable idea either...not to mention I've been bitten by them before too. Sign, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] OOP real life example (was Re: Why is MySQL more

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 00:33, Curt Sampson wrote: On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Don Baccus wrote: Give it up. You're acting like a turkey. If you aren't, skin yourself a new non-turkey skin. Since he appears not to be able to avoid abusive ad hominem attacks, I'm now sending mail with [EMAIL

Re: [HACKERS] OOP real life example (was Re: Why is MySQL more

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 00:16, Curt Sampson wrote: I will revise my opinion the instant someone shows me something that I can't do relationally, or is easy to implement with inheritance, and difficult with relational methods. Now you know what you need to do, and if you have no example, we can

Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql-server/src

2002-08-13 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 08:15, Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think Tom is on to something here. I meant to ask but never got around to it. Why would anyone need to move the XLOG after you've inited the db? I just determined that disk I/O is terrible, so

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-13 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 12:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 01:04:02PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: On a system where building with large-file support is reasonably standard, I agree that PG should be built that way too. Where it's not so standard, I agree with Andrew

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] Linux Largefile Support In Postgresql RPMS

2002-08-13 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-13 at 12:04, Tom Lane wrote: On a system where building with large-file support is reasonably standard, I agree that PG should be built that way too. Where it's not so standard, I agree with Andrew Sullivan's concerns ... Agreed. This is what I originally asked for. Greg

Re: [HACKERS] OOP real life example (was Re: Why is MySQL more

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
such a description. 4. Thus, we are in other messages here trying to work out the model and come up with such a description. 5. The people working this out at the moment appear to be me, Greg Copeland and Hannu Krosing. OK, great summary. Isn't the bottom-line

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
to help spell this out? Regards, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
? Hmmm...I might have to go do some reading to find out one way or anther... ;) Sign, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 10:17, Ross J. Reedstrom wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 09:39:06AM -0500, Greg Copeland wrote: I completely agree. This is why I want/wanted to pursue the theory and existing implementations angle. In theory, it sounds like a good idea. In practice ... ;-) LOL

[HACKERS] SF moving to DB2...

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
that DB2 can do this for us, and IBM is giving us the resources to make this transition successful. You can read the press release here: http://www.vasoftware.com/news/press.php/2002/1070.html Sign, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
for all replication implementations may be worthwhile. That way, no matter what replication method/tool is being used, as long as it conforms to the defined replication interfaces, generic monitoring tools can be used to keep an eye on things. Think this has any merit? Greg Copeland

Re: [HACKERS] python patch

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
follow up, can we assume that he agrees? In not, please let me know and I'll resubmit patch #2. In the mean time, patches #1 and #3 should be good to go. Bruce, feel free to apply those whenever time allows. Thanks, Greg Copeland On Mon, 2002-08-12 at 18:33, Rod Taylor wrote: All

Re: [HACKERS] python patch

2002-08-14 Thread Greg Copeland
-Original Message- From: Greg Copeland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2002 11:09 AM To: Rod Taylor Cc: Christopher Kings-Lynne; Bruce Momjian; PostgresSQL Hackers Mailing List Subject: Re: [HACKERS] python patch Well, I tend to agree

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Copeland
wrote: Greg Copeland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... it occurred to me that a predefined set of views and/or tables for all replication implementations may be worthwhile. Do we understand replication well enough to define such a set of views? I sure don't ... regards

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 09:47, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 10:15:32PM -0500, Greg Copeland wrote: That way, no matter what replication method/tool is being used, as long as it conforms to the defined replication interfaces, generic monitoring tools can be used to keep

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Copeland
a generic interface to *monitor* be a waste of time? In what way would that prevent someone from producing a *readlly good* replication implementation? I utterly fail to see the connection. Regards, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Copeland
As I said -- I don't really see the need for a bunch of replication implementations, and therefore I don't see the need for a generic API to make the whole mess (slightly) more manageable. I see. So the intension of the core developers is to have one and only one replication solution? Greg

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Copeland
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Re: [HACKERS] Bug/Change in behavior for 7.3 vs 7.2.1

2002-08-15 Thread Greg Copeland
Dang it...meant to mention that the other day when I was working on those python patches. I had to place tick marks (single quote) around the number and it was converted correctly. gcope=# insert into a values ( 99 ) ; ERROR: column a is of type 'bigint' but expression is of type

Re: [HACKERS] Standard replication interface?

2002-08-16 Thread Greg Copeland
documents. While I can see that some specifications are set in stone, I certainly am not so bold as to assert my crystal ball even came with batteries. ;) That is, I assume some level of revision to an initial specification would be required following real-world use. Regards, Greg Copeland

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-08-19 Thread Greg Copeland
feeling is, that's more and an architectural/design issue rather than a fundamental issue with the concept. --Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] @(#) Mordred Labs advisory 0x0001: Buffer overflow in

2002-08-20 Thread Greg Copeland
stability and reliability is very important to them. Perhaps their mantra is the rule of thumb outlined above. Sign, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] @(#) Mordred Labs advisory 0x0001: Buffer overflow in

2002-08-20 Thread Greg Copeland
data. While that's true, data can be restored. It also requires a different personality type. Many people would be willing to DoS a system, however, that doesn't have to mean they are willing to destroy data. Regards, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [HACKERS] @(#) Mordred Labs advisory 0x0001: Buffer overflow in

2002-08-21 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 18:40, Mark Pritchard wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:48, Greg Copeland wrote: On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 00:35, Dann Corbit wrote: Most computer virus problems are caused by buffer overrun. Someone decided it wasn't very important. This is true. IMO, it is extremely

Re: [HACKERS] @(#) Mordred Labs advisory 0x0001: Buffer overflow in

2002-08-21 Thread Greg Copeland
On Tue, 2002-08-20 at 19:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Copeland) wrote At some point in time, you have to stand and say, the buck stops here. I agree here, but at the same time you cannot put 100% of the responsibility on the developers. If you are the dba

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-05 Thread Greg Copeland
to such a concept? Perhaps different types of table inheritance can be considered in our model...has-a, is-a, etc... Regards, Greg Copeland signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-06 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 15:51, Hannu Krosing wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 03:19, Greg Copeland wrote: What about the concept of columns being public or private? That is, certain columns may not be inherited by a child? Any thought to such a concept? Perhaps different types of table

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-06 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 07:53, Hannu Krosing wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 09:53, Curt Sampson wrote: This looks like a classic case of incorrect modelling to me. Does the good itself change when it becomes a campaign_good? No. The price changes, but that's obviously not an integral part of

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-06 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 08:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 07:37, Curt Sampson wrote: On 5 Sep 2002, Hannu Krosing wrote: To elaborate on Gregs example if you have table GOODS and under it a table CAMPAIGN_GOODS then you may place a general overridable constraint

Re: [HACKERS] Inheritance

2002-09-06 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-09-06 at 11:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oops! [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Copeland) was seen spray-painting on a wall: That's a pretty forcible constraint. :-). =20 Is there something broken with your mailer? It's reformatting quotes rather horribly... Hmm...not that I know

Re: [HACKERS] Schemas not available for pl/pgsql %TYPE....

2002-09-12 Thread Greg Copeland
Does anyone know if such effort is also required to pl/python to become schema aware? Regards, Greg Copeland On Wed, 2002-09-11 at 19:24, Bruce Momjian wrote: Patch applied. Thanks. --- Joe Conway

Re: [GENERAL] [HACKERS] PGXLOG variable worthwhile?

2002-09-19 Thread Greg Copeland
I think Marc made a pretty good case about the use of command line arguments but I think I have to vote with Tom. Many of the command line arguments you seem to be using do sorta make sense to have for easy reference or to help validate your runtime environment for each instance. The other side

Re: [HACKERS] Having no luck with getting pgbench to run multiple

2002-09-20 Thread Greg Copeland
Well, you'll probably want to pass in a valid timeval structure if you don't want it to block. Basically, that snippet tells select on the list of sockets, looking for sockets that have data to be read while waiting forever. That means it will block until something appears on one of the sockets

Re: [HACKERS] SCSI Error

2002-09-20 Thread Greg Copeland
Ensure you don't have termination issues. Make sure your SCSI interface is configured correctly for your SCSI environment, especially on matters of termination. Make sure you have enough power to your drive and if possible, make sure your drives are hung off of distinct power segments coming

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Memory Errors...

2002-09-20 Thread Greg Copeland
I'll try to have a look-see by the end of the weekend. Any code that can reproduce it or is it ANY code that uses SPI? Greg On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 11:39, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Tom Lane writes: On looking a little more closely, it's clear that pltcl_SPI_exec() should be, and is not,

Re: [HACKERS] [GENERAL] Memory Errors...

2002-09-23 Thread Greg Copeland
Well, it looks like it was already taken to the mat. ;) Greg On Thu, 2002-09-19 at 16:58, Joe Conway wrote: Nigel J. Andrews wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Joe Conway wrote: I can give it a shot, but probably not until the weekend. I haven't really followed this thread closely, and don't

[HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-14 Thread Greg Copeland
Just curious, and honestly I haven't looked, but is there any form of compression between clients and servers? Has this been looked at? Greg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-14 Thread Greg Copeland
with low bandwidth connectivity to their servers or where bandwidth may already be at a premium. The zlib exploit posting got me thinking about this. Greg On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 12:20, Bruce Momjian wrote: Greg Copeland wrote: Just curious, and honestly I haven't looked, but is there any form

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-14 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 13:35, Bruce Momjian wrote: Greg Copeland wrote: Checking application/pgp-signature: FAILURE -- Start of PGP signed section. Well, it occurred to me that if a large result set were to be identified before transport between a client and server, a significant amount

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-14 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 14:14, Neil Conway wrote: On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 14:35, Bruce Momjian wrote: Greg Copeland wrote: Checking application/pgp-signature: FAILURE -- Start of PGP signed section. Well, it occurred to me that if a large result set were to be identified before

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-14 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 14:29, Tom Lane wrote: Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This may be of value for users with low bandwidth connectivity to their servers or where bandwidth may already be at a premium. But don't slow links do the compression themselves, like PPP over a

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 14:03, Arguile wrote: [snip] I'm sceptical of the benefit such compressions would provide in this setting though. We're dealing with sets that would have to be compressed every time (no caching) which might be a bit expensive on a database server. Having it as a

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Copeland
On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 19:43, Bruce Momjian wrote: Kyle wrote: On the subject on client/server compression, does the server decompress toast data before sending it to the client? Is so, why (other than requiring modifications to the protocol)? On the flip side, does/could the client

Re: [HACKERS] User Level Lock question

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Copeland
Are you trying to do a select for update? Greg On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 13:54, Lance Ellinghaus wrote: I know it does not sound like something that would need to be done, but here is why I am looking at doing this... I am trying to replace a low level ISAM database with PostgreSQL. The low

Re: [HACKERS] User Level Lock question

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 16:24, Neil Conway wrote: On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 14:54, Lance Ellinghaus wrote: I know it does not sound like something that would need to be done, but here is why I am looking at doing this... I am trying to replace a low level ISAM database with PostgreSQL. The

Re: [HACKERS] Client/Server compression?

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 19:44, Kyle wrote: [snip] Wouldn't Tom's suggestion of riding on top of ssh would give similar results? Anyway, it'd probably be a good proof of concept of whether or not it's worth the effort. And that brings up the question: how would you measure the benefit? I'd

Re: [HACKERS] User Level Lock question

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Copeland
On Fri, 2002-03-15 at 21:45, Lance Ellinghaus wrote: The application actually does not want nor need a consistent view of the data. It is expecting that records that are locked will not be viewed at all. The locks are normally held for VERY short periods of time. The fact that the application

Re: [HACKERS] Again, sorry, caching.

2002-03-16 Thread Greg Copeland
I previously replied to you vaguely describing a way you could implement this by using a combination of client side caching and database tables and triggers to allow you to determine if your cache is still valid. Someone came right behind me, Tom maybe??, and indicated that the proper/ideal way

Re: [HACKERS] Again, sorry, caching.

2002-03-16 Thread Greg Copeland
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 08:01, mlw wrote: [snip] If it is mostly static data, why not just make it a static page? Because a static page is a maintenance nightmare. One uses a database in a web site to allow content to be changed and upgraded dynamically and with a minimum of work. Oh ya, I

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