Re: [Pharo-dev] Losing instance variable addition

2013-11-01 Thread Frank Shearar
On 1 November 2013 03:36, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, if you remember, i already proposed how to solve 'extending object's state with arbitrary state' , mainly by changing the object format to

Re: [Pharo-dev] Questions about Athens

2013-11-01 Thread kilon alios
Igor I got Athens-Tutorial but it gives me a MNU: AthensViewMorphlayout: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:23 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: ShivaVG looks definitely as a way to ease the pain of porting to OpenGL. Some notes on the matter. The Cairo backend for OpenGL is opengl but yet

Re: [Pharo-dev] Questions about Athens

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
On Nov 1, 2013, at 10:02 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Igor I got Athens-Tutorial but it gives me a MNU: AthensViewMorphlayout: strange tell us more. You know which image …. Stef On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:23 AM, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Questions about Athens

2013-11-01 Thread kilon alios
Again I am following Igor instructions, loaded Athens-Tutorial from smalltalkhub , opened a new workspace, AthensTutorial open. I am using a pharo 3 that downloaded just yesterday. (Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30532) here is the full stack AthensViewMorph(Object)doesNotUnderstand: #layout:

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-11-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Can you give me write access to the repo? Phil On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: the pdf that I sent and that you can find on git hub https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english down down down at the bottom On

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires Nov 7th

2013-11-01 Thread Guillermo Polito
Hey! I created a doodle :) http://doodle.com/8yhztyhfhapz4rii I think it will be good to know the people that is coming for logistics :). On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, we are organizing a Pharo Sprint in Bs As: When: November

Re: [Pharo-dev] Losing instance variable addition

2013-11-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi Stef, On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: On Oct 31, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: I completely disagree with this point of view :). We should assume an open world, not a close one. From this point of view,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Questions about Athens

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Ok now the explanation :) Spec changed recently in 30. Stef Again I am following Igor instructions, loaded Athens-Tutorial from smalltalkhub , opened a new workspace, AthensTutorial open. I am using a pharo 3 that downloaded just yesterday. (Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30532) here is the

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
sure what is your git account. Stef On Nov 1, 2013, at 2:01 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: Can you give me write access to the repo? Phil On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: the pdf that I sent and that you can find on git hub

Re: [Pharo-dev] Losing instance variable addition

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
This is not the same :) What is not the same? :) By override I meant the problem induced by two packages that define the same method, and that are being loaded at the same time. ah that yes but it will probably never happen in reality :) I thought more about method extensions Stef

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-11-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
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[Pharo-dev] Strange primitive failure

2013-11-01 Thread Benjamin
Hello guys, is it expected that 1 perform: #gcd: withArguments: {2} works while 1 perform: #gcd: withArguments: {2} asOrderedCollection fails ? Ben

Re: [Pharo-dev] Strange primitive failure

2013-11-01 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Nothing surprising here for me. The reason is that an array is really simple (e.g., fixed size, easy to access element, which does not require to send message from the VM), while an ordered collection is more complex and the VM does not support direct operations on it. The VM knows how to deal

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add HTTPRequest plugin to CI

2013-11-01 Thread Paul DeBruicker
Hi Camillo, thanks for following up. Yes I thought to use the URLTrigger to monitor the Monticello repos. The reason to use the HTTPRequest plugin instead of just a bash oneliner with curl or something is that for the POST that triggers the Travis build to succeed you need to include github

Re: [Pharo-dev] Add HTTPRequest plugin to CI

2013-11-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-11-01, at 15:48, Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Camillo, thanks for following up. Yes I thought to use the URLTrigger to monitor the Monticello repos. The reason to use the HTTPRequest plugin instead of just a bash oneliner with curl or something is that for the

[Pharo-dev] Debugging Morphs (was Re: Questions about Athens)

2013-11-01 Thread btc
kilon alios wrote: About the problem to recreate it all it takes is a demo := AthensDemoMorph new openInWorld . It opens the morph with the Athens grey box, I save the image , close pharo, open pharo which reloads the image automagically and BOOM Red Box of Doom :) My other tries also are based

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging Morphs (was Re: Questions about Athens)

2013-11-01 Thread Camillo Bruni
On 2013-11-01, at 16:44, b...@openinworld.com wrote: kilon alios wrote: About the problem to recreate it all it takes is a demo := AthensDemoMorph new openInWorld . It opens the morph with the Athens grey box, I save the image , close pharo, open pharo which reloads the image automagically

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core] f091ea: 30534

2013-11-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/heads/3.0 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core Commit: f091ea34309d163ad6a6f4ba8342bad3117fc2d1 https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core/commit/f091ea34309d163ad6a6f4ba8342bad3117fc2d1 Author: Jenkins Build Server bo...@pharo-project.org Date:

[Pharo-dev] [pharo-project/pharo-core]

2013-11-01 Thread GitHub
Branch: refs/tags/30534 Home: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-core

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging Morphs (was Re: Questions about Athens)

2013-11-01 Thread btc
Camillo Bruni wrote: On 2013-11-01, at 16:44, b...@openinworld.com wrote: kilon alios wrote: About the problem to recreate it all it takes is a demo := AthensDemoMorph new openInWorld . It opens the morph with the Athens grey box, I save the image , close pharo,

Re: [Pharo-dev] Questions about Athens

2013-11-01 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 1 November 2013 14:32, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote: Ok now the explanation :) Spec changed recently in 30. then i need help on that.. what is needs to be changed. btw, i noticed that monticello configuration browser also having problems with spec. Stef Again I am

Re: [Pharo-dev] Debugging Morphs (was Re: Questions about Athens)

2013-11-01 Thread kilon alios
Thanks guys, I already tried Stephane and now Camillo's suggestion with debug morph and works like a charm :) . Definetly makes my life a lot easier. btc self halt inserts a breakpoint to your code, so that execution stops there and debugger pops up. I find all this highly fascinating because its

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
done :) On Nov 1, 2013, at 2:48 PM, p...@highoctane.be wrote: philippeback

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-11-01 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Cool. I've tried to use the toolkit on Windows but it is a PITA. OSX Lion is fine. There are some socket errors and Worldstate messages when compiling a chapter: [PhilMac:/Volumes/Public/Dev/DevPharo/PharoForTheEnterprise-english philippeback$] ./compile.sh NativeBoost/NativeBoost.pier

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal for a Topic for the bachelor/master list [safe-image for teaching]

2013-11-01 Thread Max Leske
I think that’s a good idea. Obviously that’s something that none of us developers want in the system but it would be good to have it from a promotional point of view I guess. Could applications like Dr. Geo benefit from such an environment? Max On 01.11.2013, at 19:56, Gisela Decuzzi

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal for a Topic for the bachelor/master list [safe-image for teaching]

2013-11-01 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Another similar project is a real working Image Locker for deploying... but not sure how much important it is... On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I think that’s a good idea. Obviously that’s something that none of us developers want in the system but it

Re: [Pharo-dev] About BitBlt current - BitBlt (Fuel)

2013-11-01 Thread Max Leske
Wow… Form is mindnumbing… On 30.10.2013, at 23:00, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: hehehe sorry, it was #hackBits: :) On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you find that method? I couldn’t find any implementors or references…

[Pharo-dev] Update Fuel documentation

2013-11-01 Thread Nicolas Cellier
This page http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel/Version1.9/Documentation/Installationhas obsolete information, at least for Squeak installation. This is because ConfigurationOfFuel-MaxLeske.178 still points to old repository http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Fuel.html which has been

[Pharo-dev] setting fonts in pharo 3.0

2013-11-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I am porting Moose to Pharo 3.0. I could get the image code to load rather painlessly, and that is great. The first thing I notice is that something changed in the font management: I cannot seem to be able to set non-bitmap fonts anymore. I also noticed that the base Pharo image does not

Re: [Pharo-dev] setting fonts in pharo 3.0

2013-11-01 Thread Nicolas Cellier
For me, enabling the Settings FreeType/update fonts at startup, saving then restarting the image did the trick 2013/11/1 Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com Hi, I am porting Moose to Pharo 3.0. I could get the image code to load rather painlessly, and that is great. The first thing I notice

Re: [Pharo-dev] Using Gutenberg

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Lots of interesting material in the chapters. Artefact is of particular interest to me (creation of invoices). Now digesting the Pier syntax. Is there any Vim highlighting? I've downloaded the Wikipedia one, should be close to tweak in case there is no Vim plugin. the emacs one is

Re: [Pharo-dev] setting fonts in pharo 3.0

2013-11-01 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
nothing changed, but there is a bug around that prevents the loading at startup (unless you do what Nicolas says). now, I'm on vacations and I will not have time to look at it until 18Nov+ :( Esteban On Nov 1, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.n...@gmail.com wrote: For

Re: [Pharo-dev] setting fonts in pharo 3.0

2013-11-01 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 01 Nov 2013, at 21:51, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I am porting Moose to Pharo 3.0. I could get the image code to load rather painlessly, and that is great. The first thing I notice is that something changed in the font management: I cannot seem to be able to set

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal for a Topic for the bachelor/master list [safe-image for teaching]

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi mariano Benjamin did a User and locking package for Pharo 20 and 30. Stef Another similar project is a real working Image Locker for deploying... but not sure how much important it is... On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Max Leske maxle...@gmail.com wrote: I think that’s a good idea.

[Pharo-dev] Fuel: fix for Squeak trunk

2013-11-01 Thread Nicolas Cellier
I have an easy fix for Fuel on Squeak trunk. It concerns the FuelCompatibility layer, so I hesitate to publish on Pharo fogbugz... Is there a dedicated bug tracker? What is the preferred procedure? Nicolas

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal for a Topic for the bachelor/master list [safe-image for teaching]

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Gisela I will add this idea to the topics list :) Thanks for the reminder. Stef On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I don't know where to send the proposal and I think that the list would be a good place to talk about it. The main idea is to have a

[Pharo-dev] how to set another inspector/explorer

2013-11-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I am trying to set the GTInspector as the default explorer. However, I see that the inspector registration has changed. It seems to me that registering to #objectExplorer has no effect. Instead, we are now sending #inspect: and #explore to the #inspector: Objectexplore ^Smalltalk tools

Re: [Pharo-dev] setting fonts in pharo 3.0

2013-11-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Oh, I see. The previous code relied on the assumption that the free types are not enabled: FreeTypeSystemSettings loadFt2Library: true. This implicitly triggered the fonts update. So, now I am doing: FreeTypeFontProvider current updateFromSystem. and it works just fine. Thanks. Doru

Re: [Pharo-dev] Fuel: fix for Squeak trunk

2013-11-01 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
I have an easy fix for Fuel on Squeak trunk. It concerns the FuelCompatibility layer, so I hesitate to publish on Pharo fogbugz... Is there a dedicated bug tracker? check because may be there is a fuel subproject in fogbugz What is the preferred procedure? Nicolas

[Pharo-dev] flatCollect:

2013-11-01 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, I see that Pharo 3.0 has a CollectionflatCollect:. This is great as the method proved to be very valuable in the context of Moose. However, the current Pharo implementation is less ideal: CollectionflatCollect: aBlock ^ Array streamContents: [:stream | self do: [:ea | stream nextPutAll:

Re: [Pharo-dev] flatCollect:

2013-11-01 Thread Gabriel Cotelli
I don't have a Pharo at hand now,but if species returns the class of the collection, be carefull with SortedCollection because in that case the sortBlock could not work with the collected objects. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote: Hi, I see that Pharo

Re: [Pharo-dev] flatCollect:

2013-11-01 Thread Sebastian Tleye
Hi, flatCollect: is called by Collectiongather: instead of renaming gather: what we did is add flatCollect: to keep compatibility. Take into account that if you change what flatCollect: returns it will affect all the methods that use gather: 2013/11/1 Gabriel Cotelli g.cote...@gmail.com I

Re: [Pharo-dev] Proposal for a Topic for the bachelor/master list [safe-image for teaching]

2013-11-01 Thread btc
Stef Mariano, Any links to more info by these... ? Stéphane Ducasse wrote: Hi mariano Benjamin did a User and locking package for Pharo 20 and 30. Stef Another similar project is a real working Image Locker for deploying... but not sure how much important it is... On Fri,