Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

Hi Thierry, On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Thierry Goubier wrote: > Hi Esteban, > > Le 28/10/2016 à 11:56, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : > >> VM here: http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/ >> > > What is the difference between the various x86_64

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

2016-10-29 0:12 GMT+02:00 Denis Kudriashov : > Because if Kernel packages are tested using mocks it means that to be able > to test the system we need to: > - build bootstrap > - load SUnit > - load mocks > - which will load probably a proxy framework > - then, just

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

2016-10-28 21:07 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito : > > You're somehow neglecting how difficult it is to build and maintain the > system as it is. > I am not. > > Because if Kernel packages are tested using mocks it means that to be able > to test the system we need to: >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

2016-10-28 21:07 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito : > And again i'll hold my position: whoever wants to load it can do it. There >>> is no need to put it there by default. >>> >> Do you know how much easier it would be to design and test FileSystem >> with mocks. Code and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

It seems to me that there perhaps needs to be more clarity here ... I think there is perhaps a difference in between "kernel tests should have fewer depencies" and "mocks missing from Pharo". Is "Pharo" and "kernel" synonymous? I imagine that there is a minimal/minimum kernel image that has

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

2016-10-28 16:07 GMT-03:00 Guillermo Polito : > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Denis Kudriashov > wrote: >> And there is another story. Imaging Ruby guys join Pharo development (not >> real story :)). Many years In Ruby people use mocks and

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > > 2016-10-28 18:58 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito : > >> No, please, kernel test should have the fewer dependencies as possible! >> > I would say this dependency is needed. > You're somehow

Re: [Pharo-dev] GitHub code analytics tools

Dale Henrichs-3 wrote > Guillermo, > > Apparently you don't like the github browser-based code review tool? > > What are your objections? > > Do you know of a better tool that is out in the wild or do you just have > visions that code review could be better? Let me add some thoughts on review

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

2016-10-28 18:58 GMT+02:00 Guillermo Polito : > No, please, kernel test should have the fewer dependencies as possible! > I would say this dependency is needed. > And again i'll hold my position: whoever wants to load it can do it. There > is no need to put it there by

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

Hi Esteban, Le 28/10/2016 à 11:56, Esteban Lorenzano a écrit : VM here: http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/ What is the difference between the various x86_64 versions? I chose the itimer one for my tests. The threaded one is the "run external calls in their own thread" vm?

Re: [Pharo-dev] GitHub code analytics tools

On 10/28/16 2:07 AM, Guille Polito wrote: Hi! Original Message Guillermo, Apparently you don't like the github browser-based code review tool? What are your objections? Do you know of a better tool that is out in the wild or do you just have visions that code review

Re: [Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

No, please, kernel test should have the fewer dependencies as possible! And again i'll hold my position: whoever wants to load it can do it. There is no need to put it there by default. Le 28 oct. 2016 18:52, "Denis Kudriashov" a écrit : > We always said that smalltalk is

[Pharo-dev] Mocks are missing in Pharo (from thread OSProcess is missing)

We always said that smalltalk is the best for TDD. But we not have mocks by default in Pharo while mocks is fundamental part of TDD. So no kernel tests could benefit from them. And more important TDD is design process and without mocks we can't apply it to kernel with full power. What you think

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

awesome thank you guys On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 7:05 PM stepharo wrote: > > > Le 28/10/16 à 16:59, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : > > does 64 bit means that we can now take full advantage of the memory of our > system > > > yes > > > and not have to adhere to a specific limit ? >

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

Le 28/10/16 à 16:59, Dimitris Chloupis a écrit : does 64 bit means that we can now take full advantage of the memory of our system yes and not have to adhere to a specific limit ? well probably the one of your OS :) Is that something the current build does or is it planned for future

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

does 64 bit means that we can now take full advantage of the memory of our system and not have to adhere to a specific limit ? Is that something the current build does or is it planned for future releases ? On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 4:19 PM Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > > On 28

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

> On 28 Oct 2016, at 14:22, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > apart from the missing SSL support which makes loading complex stuff from > github a bit painfull, it seems to be usable enough. I should work on this :) Esteban

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

I faced an issue that FFI calls fail with arguments of type size_t or the value that was passed to C function was completely wrong. For example you pass 1 but get 29834693165 Cheers, Alex On 28 October 2016 at 14:22, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > > 2016-10-28 12:29

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

2016-10-28 12:29 GMT+02:00 Thierry Goubier : > > > 2016-10-28 11:56 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > >> VM here: http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/ >> Image here: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip >> > > Thanks. > > >>

Re: [Pharo-dev] GitHub code analytics tools

2016-10-28 11:07 GMT+02:00 Guille Polito : > Hi! > > Original Message > > Guillermo, > > Apparently you don't like the github browser-based code review tool? > > What are your objections? > > Do you know of a better tool that is out in the wild or do

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

2016-10-28 11:56 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano : > VM here: http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/ > Image here: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip > Thanks. > > this is still not official (that’s why is not in official place) so there > are a

Re: [Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

VM here: http://bintray.com/estebanlm/pharo-vm/build#files/ Image here: http://files.pharo.org/get-files/60/pharo-64.zip this is still not official (that’s why is not in official place) so

Re: [Pharo-dev] GitHub code analytics tools

Hi! Original Message Guillermo, Apparently you don't like the github browser-based code review tool? What are your objections? Do you know of a better tool that is out in the wild or do you just have visions that code review could be better? Better tools are always

[Pharo-dev] Instructions for Pharo 6 64bits

Hi all, anybody knows how to get (and test) the 64bits version of the Pharo vm and image? Thanks, Thierry

Re: [Pharo-dev] CI's down ?

I added an issue: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/19245/Pharo-Contribution-CI-slaves-Config-missing-32bit-libs > On 25 Oct 2016, at 13:41, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >