In ruby world the tools I like most for TDD are:
- autotest: when you save a file, autotest detects it are run automatically
associated unit tests.
http://ph7spot.com/musings/getting-started-with-autotest. For PHPUnit
there's a light autotest-like http://gist.github.com/287950. I really like
it
Hello, No I dont. Who is it?
2010/6/3 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
do you happen to know tim mckinnon?
Stef
On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:13 AM, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
I use Mockery - my implementation SSpec idies. It is realy more
powerfull, transparency and flexibility.
With
Yes, it will be, in addition to other packages of Metacello.
See thread:
http://forum.world.st/What-packages-to-load-from-Metacello-in-PharoDev-tp2225874p2225874.html
cheers
Mariano
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote:
I hope :)
Stef
On Jun 2,
Jochen Riekhof wrote:
The only thing I use projects for is to separate the different tasks I am
working on at the same time (like spaces on the Mac), so I can have one
world where I'm working on a client project, and a whole other world if
I...
Yep, thank you Sean - this more or less
What Hernán did is here: http://www.squeaksource.com/TDDFacilities.html
That was for Pharo 1.0.
For those that want to help in this subject I think the first step could be
to load such package in a PharoCore1.1 and fix it in case it doesn't work.
Then, it can be integrated as part of
2010/6/2 Germán Leiva leivager...@gmail.com
I'm thinking out load here ...
In the debugger when a DNU is raised, for speeding up the programming in *TDD
mode**:*
- The create button must add the method in the class of the receiver,
the possibility to choose a superclass of the
2010/6/3 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com
Yes, it will be, in addition to other packages of Metacello.
See thread:
http://forum.world.st/What-packages-to-load-from-Metacello-in-PharoDev-tp2225874p2225874.html
Cool, thanks (so many mails, I forgot this thread :)
Laurent Laffont
I think we should not reinvent the wheel in Pharo. I mean, Morphic is nice,
although I would like to have native windows so that I can use my Mac expose
features. But no, I have only one window. Then, I have something similar but
implemented in Pharo using Mac + narrows.
Then, you can have more
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
I think we should not reinvent the wheel in Pharo. I mean, Morphic is
nice, although I would like to have native windows so that I can use my
Mac expose features. But no, I have only one window. Then, I have
something similar but implemented in Pharo using Mac
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
but is it not just using SSpec?
SSpec is not bad, but needs some work.
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Did SSpec still loads?
It loads, but most of the tests fail - even though the project itself mostly
works.
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Does it load in pharo well?
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
what is important for me is that we distinguish what is related to the UI
flow from the loading of a specific
tests libraries.
RIght now I would like to concentrate on UI flow and tools interaction.
Oh, okay - got it. In that case:
+1 for autotest-like
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
there is a key point in all this thread.
we are not against ideas.
Ha ha, I never thought otherwise :)
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
We loved etoys and I did more presentations about it than probably 95%
of
the squeakers population
now we do not
On 2 June 2010 16:59, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Some news (sources at www.squeaksource.com/Athens):
About having a first 'minimal' version, working with RomePluginCanvas and
RomeReferenceCanvas, it seems to be ok.
I retrieve the tests from Sophie and all are green.
Thanks for all the great feedback! It's great to discuss because it makes me
think about what's really important and why...
Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
I think we should not reinvent the wheel in Pharo. I mean, Morphic is
nice,
although I would like to have native windows so that I can
On 3 juin 2010, at 14:24, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
what is important for me is that we distinguish what is related to the UI
flow from the loading of a specific
tests libraries.
RIght now I would like to concentrate on UI flow and tools interaction.
Oh,
You may have a lot of noise.
I guess that Ruby uses files as a unit of development/deployment. The closest
Smalltalk/Pharo has is the class and the package.
I would suggest that TestCase which would use this feature use some
pragma/method to identify/declare which classes/packages this
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27077/PharoCore-1.1-11383-Beta.zip
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On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexan...@bergel.euwrote:
You may have a lot of noise.
I guess that Ruby uses files as a unit of development/deployment. The
closest Smalltalk/Pharo has is the class and the package.
I would suggest that TestCase which would use this
On 3 June 2010 10:24, Geert Claes geert.wl.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
Jochen Riekhof wrote:
The only thing I use projects for is to separate the different tasks I am
working on at the same time (like spaces on the Mac), so I can have one
world where I'm working on a client project, and a whole
Lukas,
I am glad that it works for you, but it strikes me as a very poor approach. I
prefer to have all of my code in one place so that additions and fixes apply to
and can be tested with everything of interest to me. That said, I can easily
leave w/o Squeak projects, especially given how
Hello,
My task very simple. I need set some font for TextMorph instance
programmatically.
I found TextStylenamed: familyName . But it search font in TextConstants
that not include my font.
By my font exists in visual font chooser from halo menu in text morph.
How I can get font instance that I
Juan Vuletich wrote:
Yes, that would be cool. I also thought about multi user multi touch
tables, where I need to handle input form several fingers
simultaneously, that can belong or not to the same hand (user). Also
multiple standard and MIDI keyboards, continuous MIDI controllers, pen
Hi. ImageSegment uses GC to compute the out pointers. Basically, to a given
array of roots (a graph) it does:
1) It marks the rootArray and all root objects by turning on the Garbage
Collector bit in the object header of those particular objects.
2) Then does a mark pass over all objects. This
The idea is excellent.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 3 Jun 2010, at 10:22, laurent laffont wrote:
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Alexandre Bergel alexan...@bergel.eu wrote:
You may have a lot of noise.
I guess that Ruby uses files as a unit of development/deployment. The
closest
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
Today's debugger (and all pharo indeed), is extremely dependant on the
mouse... I would love to do all the same with just the keyboard :(
me too.
Now if you want to help in this direction we should check the packages for
keybindings and
Where should I look? :D Is something written somewhere? :P
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.frwrote:
On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:42 PM, Guillermo Polito wrote:
Today's debugger (and all pharo indeed), is extremely dependant on the
mouse... I would love to
Hi Mariano, Hi All,
response below. But does anyone have any tests for the image segment
primitives? I'm refactoring them and would like some tests.
2010/6/3 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com
Hi. ImageSegment uses GC to compute the out pointers. Basically, to a given
array of
Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
finishing something is always taking time and this is great to see you making
progress on that front.
For the PhD it could be full time job to sell that.
Did you identify potential research group?
Stef
I'm trying to contact a research group on graphics at my
Below are some fonts that I set as part of my image build process; the comment
above them is Shamelessly stolen from Lukas. They might need to be changed
to take advantage of bitmap fonts??
tinyFont := LogicalFont familyName:'DejaVu Sans'
fallbackFamilyNames:nil pointSize:8
On 3 juin 2010, at 18:55, Eliot Miranda wrote:
Hi Mariano, Hi All,
response below. But does anyone have any tests for the image segment
primitives? I'm refactoring them and would like some tests.
I don't have tests, but it's cool that you take care of this.
The code I saw was
On 3 juin 2010, at 07:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Germán Leiva wrote:
I'm thinking out load here ...
In the debugger when a DNU is raised, for speeding up the programming in
TDD mode:
• The create button must add the method in the class of the
Ok, found time to hack up a /very preliminary/ test class that allows me to
switch between PasteUpMorphs by name. It would be nice if someone could tell me
if what I did is reasonable (I did not use Squeak/Pharo for looong time).
It might e.g. well be that I use methods intended for Project that
-Suggest to delete accessors when deleting an IV
You cannot delete an inst-var with the refactoring engine if there are
references.
-Be able to generate accessors for multiple IVs at the same time (like in
eclipse!)
This is built-in for several years now: refactor class | create accessors
I'd like to add to my whishlist : an automated execution of lint when all tests
are green.
Noury
On 3 juin 2010, at 21:07, Noury Bouraqadi wrote:
On 3 juin 2010, at 07:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
On Jun 2, 2010, at 11:22 PM, Germán Leiva wrote:
I'm thinking out load here ...
In
Thank you very much
2010/6/3 Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu
LogicalFont familyName:'DejaVu Sans' fallbackFamilyNames:nil pointSize:8
stretchValue:0 weightValue:400 slantValue:0.
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Juan Vuletich wrote:
My work is not about creating svg files but about rendering them. The
links are the same because they point to the original svg (vector
graphics) file used to render both in Inkscape and in Morphic 3. If you
want to save the rendered versions, your web browser should allow
On 2 June 2010 15:16, Juan Vuletich j...@jvuletich.org wrote:
Lukas Renggli wrote:
Hi Juan,
This looks really exiting!
How do you get the actual pixels drawn? Is this implemented in
Smalltalk? Did you write primitives to do that? Are you using external
libraries? How does it compare
Hi all,
this is a cool thread! :-)
What I did are changes to the tools to make more easy to run tests and
implement what is needed. For example:
1) When you are in the browser writing a test method, you can press ctrl + t
to save the method and run the test. If the test runs, it will show the
Hi,
I've written a proof-of-concept for Autotest. Draft/crappy code and no tests
(exploration mode :) but it loads on PharoCore-1.1-11383-beta image.
Load it:
Gofer new
squeaksource: 'Autotest';
package: 'Autotest';
load
Open it:
AutotestView open
(there's en entry in WorldMenu Tools)
And
That sounds great. Clearly on my to-try list
On 3 juin 2010, at 23:04, Hernan Wilkinson wrote:
Hi all,
this is a cool thread! :-)
What I did are changes to the tools to make more easy to run tests and
implement what is needed. For example:
1) When you are in the browser writing a
On mine too...
Can't wait to try it.
Great work Hernan!
Cheers,
Mariano.
2010/6/3 Simon Denier simon.den...@inria.fr
That sounds great. Clearly on my to-try list
On 3 juin 2010, at 23:04, Hernan Wilkinson wrote:
Hi all,
this is a cool thread! :-)
What I did are changes to the
The list is quite promising.
How exactly do I load it?
Cheers,
Doru
On 3 Jun 2010, at 23:34, Mariano Abel Coca wrote:
On mine too...
Can't wait to try it.
Great work Hernan!
Cheers,
Mariano.
2010/6/3 Simon Denier simon.den...@inria.fr
That sounds great. Clearly on my to-try list
On
Tim Mckinnon is creator SMock for Dolphin. I see his work. And his work will
be stimul for me to implement mock-famework in VW and squeak (that I used)
with more user friendly and powerfull features.
2010/6/3 Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.com
Hello, No I dont. Who is it?
2010/6/3 Stéphane
I'm pleased to announce that the ConfigurationOfMagma now includes
support for loading version 1.1r1 of Magma.
In a Pharo or PharoCore 1.0 image evaluate:
Gofer it
squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';
package: 'ConfigurationOfMagma';
load.
To install the Magma Client evaluate:
more thoughts about this...
I think that the Smalltalk debugger is the best tool we have, the tool that
allow us to be really dynamic (or agile, depending on the buzz you like
the most :-)) and that we should take more advantage of when doing tdd (and
not only tdd). People used to use other
Hi Doru!
if you are asking about the package I wrote, just install the latest
version of TDDFacilities on a pharo 1.0 image and then evaluate:
OBTextMorphEditorWithShout initialize
Bye!,
Hernan.
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Tudor Girba tudor.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
The list is quite
We run the lint tests (and other we wrote like are the visitor patterns
implemented correctly?, is the code you wrote following the design and
coding conventions? etc. before sending the package to integrate of making
a new version of it...
When doing tdd, having all test green does not mean you
OBSUnitIntegration is already providing some of those:
1) When you are in the browser writing a test method, you can press ctrl + t
to save the method and run the test. If the test runs, it will show the
green dot in the browser, if it does not, it popups the debugger directly on
the error.
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