Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo in OpenShift

2012-04-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Excellent I'm doing some efforts to make Pharo work in OpenShift (the cloud initiative of Red Hat) using the DIY (do it yourself) cartridge. I started trying with Swazoo, but looks like SwazooServer is ignoring the ip address specified and binding to all interfaces (0.0.0.0) (Was an

[Pharo-project] Hello newcomers on Pharo lists...

2012-04-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
The pharo mailing-list is regularly attracting some newcomers and I would like to welcome them :) So welcome! We really want to improve the system so your contribution are welcomed. Now the first contribution you can do is to sign the license

[Pharo-project] about http://sleepycoders.blogspot.fr/2012/04/peer-to-peer-networking-in-pharo.html

2012-04-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Cool! We need more of such blog. It would be great to have a look at the gossiping protocol on squeaksource to have real P2P structure. http://www.squeaksource.com/P2P.html and also DGV project http://www.squeaksource.com/DGV.html I could not understand how to add a comment on the web site so

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Edgar J. De Cleene
On 4/15/12 2:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek pavel.kriva...@gmail.com wrote: We may be happy that this two forks share the same virtual machine. I didn't see any real Squeak vision and nothing changed from that time. You may try to change it and convince Squeak community about some. Cheers, --

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Edgar J. De Cleene
On 4/15/12 2:59 PM, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: I think that pharo serves a need. The need for something solid and free from restrictions related to software. Got interested in Smallatalk and Squeak quite a long time ago. But never moved past the toy-stage with them.

Re: [Pharo-project] Fuel, FuelMetalevel, FuelPackageLevel and code serialization Re: Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Edgar J. De Cleene
On 4/15/12 3:48 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: No problem. I was thinking to add this explanation to the Fuel website Having the Fuel website high in my bookmarks. Very good show.. Edgar

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Erwan Douaille
Hi, Maybe we can show us in some weeks my project ? I'm using NBOpenGL ;) That's not a game but that can show what we can do with pharo 2012/4/15 Lawson English lengli...@cox.net I went ahead and plugged my videos and so on in my response. L. On 4/15/12 7:12 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: On

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Edgar J. De Cleene
On 4/15/12 6:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: there are halos in Pharo. Can you as stupid example grab a Browser window , duplicate and rotate it in no more as two clicks? Maybe I do not know Pharo well... Give me a Pharo image which behave as Squeak for Morph in

[Pharo-project] [update 1.4] #14428

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
14428 - Issue 5603: Too short text input controls in the setting browser http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5603 Issue 5595: EllipseMorphcornerStyle: is missing statement terminator http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5595 -- Marcus Denker

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Frank Shearar
On 15 April 2012 18:53, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Well, ever tried to setup a proper maven repository in Java? Metacello looks pretty clean in comparison to iBiblio and friends. Do you mean a maven _repository_ or a maven _build_? frank Modularization is hard, no matter

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
You can get the halos but not all the time in your face. Click + shift + option on mac bring the halos. We do value direct manipulation but only when we want it, not all the time Stef On Apr 16, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: On 4/15/12 6:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Edgar J. De Cleene
On 4/16/12 7:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: You can get the halos but not all the time in your face. Click + shift + option on mac bring the halos. We do value direct manipulation but only when we want it, not all the time Stef Mmmm. Yes, you select some

Re: [Pharo-project] For Testing: 1.4 one-click

2012-04-16 Thread Norbert Hartl
Am 15.04.2012 um 11:20 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: Philippe, On 14 Apr 2012, at 23:37, p...@highoctane.be wrote: OSX Lion ProductName: Mac OS X ProductVersion: 10.7.3 BuildVersion:11D50d Darwin PhilMac.local 11.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 11.3.0: Thu Jan 12

[Pharo-project] Trello board for 1.4 items...

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
... we are experimenting using Trello for coordinating the last stuff needed to be done for 1.4: https://trello.com/board/pharo-1-4/4f8561e7aba027145b7f8ed0 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] Trello board for 1.4 items...

2012-04-16 Thread Tudor Girba
Good idea. Doru On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: ... we are experimenting using Trello for coordinating the last stuff needed to be done for 1.4: https://trello.com/board/pharo-1-4/4f8561e7aba027145b7f8ed0        Marcus -- Marcus Denker --

Re: [Pharo-project] Hello newcomers on Pharo lists...

2012-04-16 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Yes, welcome! This is a great, open community. Any answers you may seek can be found on these lists... ask away... Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Hello-newcomers-on-Pharo-lists-tp4560696p4561441.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Edgar J. De Cleene-3 wrote Yes, you select some submorph, not the root one. And a preference could do the trick... A hack to bring back Squeak halo behavior can be found here: http://forum.world.st/How-turn-on-Halo-s-td2227309.html#a4196786 I too prefer the original Squeak behavior. As

[Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
For those interested in VM implementations this paper published by Kasper V. Lund might be interesting: http://kasper.verdich.dk/RES.pdf If you dont know what it is, you can get more context info on my blog: http://astares.blogspot.de/2012/04/inside-oovm.html Bye T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL

[Pharo-project] Help with RPackage and FuelPackageLoader

2012-04-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Hi guys. I have spent several hours trying to find a problem with Fuel and RPackage and I couldn't. We have a test where we create a package, we create a class and we compiled some methods. Then we serialize the package, we remove it, and then we materialize it. In a clean Pharo 1.4 image this

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Repository proxy. Le 16 avr. 2012 12:02, Frank Shearar frank.shea...@gmail.com a écrit : On 15 April 2012 18:53, p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be wrote: Well, ever tried to setup a proper maven repository in Java? Metacello looks pretty clean in comparison to iBiblio and friends. Do

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Torsten, On 16 Apr 2012, at 15:22, Torsten Bergmann wrote: For those interested in VM implementations this paper published by Kasper V. Lund might be interesting: http://kasper.verdich.dk/RES.pdf If you dont know what it is, you can get more context info on my blog:

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 15 April 2012 16:50, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: Sig, Not intending to give you a hard time, but I went to the page, saw a -X package, and started to wonder if that might be linux support.  But FWIW, I can't load any of it.  The instructions failed, so I tried #load,

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: If you dont know what it is, you can get more context info on my blog: http://astares.blogspot.de/2012/04/inside-oovm.html Thanks for the pointer. Yes, Resilient and OOVM were/are cool projects, but did anything come from them

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 16 Apr 2012, at 15:56, Marcus Denker wrote: On Apr 16, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: If you dont know what it is, you can get more context info on my blog: http://astares.blogspot.de/2012/04/inside-oovm.html Thanks for the pointer. Yes, Resilient and OOVM were/are

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
Esmertec itself merged with a french company and is now Myriad Group: http://www.myriadgroup.com/ And all the people involved went to Google to do V8 JavaScript and (I guess) now Dart. Marcus I knew most of that (except the Myriad merger), but my (implicit) question was,

[Pharo-project] Machine Learning

2012-04-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Hello, Are there any machine learning tools or libraries available or portable to Pharo? I am not knowledgeable about the field and am just learning and exploring. Any pointers greatly appreciated. Thanks. Jimmie

[Pharo-project] Integrate SS3 on planetmisc.squeak.org

2012-04-16 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi, since squeaksource.com is closed for new projects and new projects now move to ss3.gemstone.com would it be possible to add the new Sqeaksource 3 also to http://planetmisc.squeak.org This way one could easily see the new SS3 commits as well. Thx T. -- Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren

Re: [Pharo-project] Machine Learning

2012-04-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Guille will answer you about the ObjectBrowser. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Jimmie Houchin jlhouc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Are there any machine learning tools or libraries available or portable to Pharo? I am not knowledgeable about the field and am just learning and exploring.

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Javier Pimás
Thank's to igor's debugging help it works in linux too. Gofer new squeaksource: 'NBOpenGL'; package: 'ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL'; load. (ConfigurationOfNBOpenGL project version: '1.0.3') load. (notice the 1.0.3 instead of 1.0.2) Please test that it works. There may be some random crashes, be

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:08, Marcus Denker wrote: Yes... we should try do it differently with Pharo ;-) And we will, there is a lot of good momentum, we just have to stick to it. There are lots of examples of lesser known languages or technologies that became popular along with some successful

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:08, Marcus Denker wrote: Yes... we should try do it differently with Pharo ;-) And we will, there is a lot of good momentum, we just have to stick to it. There are lots of examples of lesser known

Re: [Pharo-project] Machine Learning

2012-04-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Yes, Guille, you are correct. My apologies Mariano. I did not realize any ambiguities in the expression. Thanks. Jimmie On 4/16/2012 9:37 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote: Hehe, he's talking about /machine/ learning software, not /people /learning software :). On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:23 PM,

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Ignacio Vivona
What about getting the code of this? On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote: On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:34 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:08, Marcus Denker wrote: Yes... we should try do it differently with Pharo ;-) And we

Re: [Pharo-project] OOVM details

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:50 PM, Ignacio Vivona wrote: What about getting the code of this? It is not publicly available, as much as I know. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

[Pharo-project] Domain pharo.org

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
... we do have the domain pharo.org now (configured to forward to pharo-project.org) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Ben Coman
Sean P. DeNigris wrote: Edgar J. De Cleene-3 wrote Yes, you select some submorph, not the root one. And a preference could do the trick... A hack to bring back Squeak halo behavior can be found here: http://forum.world.st/How-turn-on-Halo-s-td2227309.html#a4196786 I too prefer the

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
On Ubuntu Lucid, it blows up in #forCurrentPlatform - can't find a suitable implementation. From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Javier Pimás [elpochodelage...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday,

Re: [Pharo-project] Trello board for 1.4 items...

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Smith
Very cool :). That makes it easier to see what's going on. On 16 Apr 2012, at 13:32, Marcus Denker wrote: ... we are experimenting using Trello for coordinating the last stuff needed to be done for 1.4: https://trello.com/board/pharo-1-4/4f8561e7aba027145b7f8ed0 Marcus --

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Tomi Neste
Is it supposed to work with the 1.3 one click package? I tried it with 1.3 on Ubuntu 10.04, copied over the Unix CogNB files, and while loading NativeBoost-Core-IgorStasenko.56 I get a ContextPart doesNotUnderstand: #simulatePrimitive:module:with:. -- tomppa

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Schwab,Wilhelm K
I thought I read it was 1.4 only?? From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of Tomi Neste [tomi.ne...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 11:54 AM To:

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Igor Stasenko
On 16 April 2012 17:58, Schwab,Wilhelm K bsch...@anest.ufl.edu wrote: I thought I read it was 1.4 only?? yes, the NativeBoost version past 1.0.9 (IIRC) are no longer supports Pharo 1.3. This is because of fixes/improvements to primitive simulation code done in 1.4. actually you can ignore

Re: [Pharo-project] Domain pharo.org

2012-04-16 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
finally! great! On Apr 16, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: ... we do have the domain pharo.org now (configured to forward to pharo-project.org) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Smith
I'd second (or third ;)) making this a system-level preference. On 16 Apr 2012, at 12:12, Edgar J. De Cleene wrote: On 4/16/12 7:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: You can get the halos but not all the time in your face. Click + shift + option on mac bring the

Re: [Pharo-project] Domain pharo.org

2012-04-16 Thread Mark Smith
:) much nicer! Good work. On 16 Apr 2012, at 16:20, Marcus Denker wrote: ... we do have the domain pharo.org now (configured to forward to pharo-project.org) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Re: [Pharo-project] gamedev.net post asking about Smalltalk

2012-04-16 Thread Tomi Neste
Right, got it loading just fine with the 1.4. The TTRendering demo is having some problems with initializing the GL context but that's probably a driver issue, I'll have to try something simpler. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 April 2012 17:58,

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo in OpenShift

2012-04-16 Thread garduino
Hi Sven: That is great news indeed. Thanks! An alternative to getting the environment variables with OSProcess would be to pass their values to the image via the command line. I have a script to control an image in the way unix expects it, it is part of this demo:

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo in OpenShift

2012-04-16 Thread garduino
Thanks, I hope can polish all the details in the next weeks, to publish a complete recipe And still best if Red Hat can offer a way of use Smalltalk as a supported language. Cheers. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-in-OpenShift-tp4560365p4562083.html Sent from the

Re: [Pharo-project] Domain pharo.org

2012-04-16 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:20, Marcus Denker wrote: ... we do have the domain pharo.org now (configured to forward to pharo-project.org) Yes! (And we also have pharo.st - my favorite). smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [Pharo-project] Stupid question about Fuel

2012-04-16 Thread Edgar J. De Cleene
On 4/16/12 12:40 PM, Ben Coman b...@openinworld.com wrote: The additional longer term answer might be to have PharoGames as a customised distribution based on Pharo. +1 Edgar

Re: [Pharo-project] Trello board for 1.4 items...

2012-04-16 Thread Mariano Martinez Peck
Excellent. Marcus, what about adding it to http://www.pharo-project.org/community ? or somewhere there. ... And maybe also add it here: http://www.symbaloo.com/mix/pharo what else can we add there? it is really nice that symbaloo thing. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Mark Smith

Re: [Pharo-project] Trello board for 1.4 items...

2012-04-16 Thread Marcus Denker
On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:03 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Excellent. Marcus, what about adding it to http://www.pharo-project.org/community ? or somewhere there. ... Yes, and maybe even on http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/beta-1-4 -- Marcus Denker --

Re: [Pharo-project] Domain pharo.org

2012-04-16 Thread Yanni Chiu
On 16/04/12 12:56 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: On 16 Apr 2012, at 17:20, Marcus Denker wrote: ... we do have the domain pharo.org now (configured to forward to pharo-project.org) Yes! (And we also have pharo.st - my favorite). pharo.st and www.pharo.st forwarded to

Re: [Pharo-project] Trello board for 1.4 items...

2012-04-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Added to the webmix Philippe 2012/4/16 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com Excellent. Marcus, what about adding it to http://www.pharo-project.org/community ? or somewhere there. ... And maybe also add it here: http://www.symbaloo.com/mix/pharo what else can we add there? it is

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo in OpenShift

2012-04-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Send me the link once it is ready so that I can add it to the symbaloo webmix http://www.symbaloo.com/mix/pharo Philippe 2012/4/16 garduino gardu...@gmail.com Hi Sven: That is great news indeed. Thanks! An alternative to getting the environment variables with OSProcess would be to

Re: [Pharo-project] Block questions

2012-04-16 Thread Eliot Miranda
On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:22 AM, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: b := [ |a| a:=2 ]. b asContext tempNames - #('a') b asContext tempNamed: 'a' - Boom in MethodContext#tempAt: primitive tempAt: in Method context uses primitive: 210, which is failing. Maybe there is a new

[Pharo-project] Image locked with Display fullscreenOn.

2012-04-16 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Hello, Got my image unusable after doing a Display fullscreenOn on Win XPSP3 with a 1.3 image. Never had the issue on the Mac. Weird. Any idea on how to solve this without shuttling my image on OSX, changing, saving, and bringing it back on Windows? I made a do.st file with Display

Re: [Pharo-project] Broken Pharo 1.4 and windows VM

2012-04-16 Thread Eliot Miranda
Hi Hilaire, I guess you're running Windows 7 and that the VM is quite correctly answering something like 7.1 for Smalltalk vm getSystemAttribute: 1002 a.k.a. Smalltalk os osVersion. So I suspect the preferencesRootPath method needs to be updated to take into account Windows 7. On Fri, Apr