Yes, that is *very* strange (latest 2.0, latest VM).
Thanks a lot for reporting an intermittent bug, Sean ;-)
On 27 Jun 2012, at 05:33, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
The following all intermittently return nil. When I do the same thing in
Safari, I always seem to get the correct answer (plain
On 25/06/2012 13:30, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
we do not know (at least I do not know what happened with the old progress
bar).
Now in 2.0 it is fixed (yes I know that you need a 1.4 version).
Great. DrGeo 12.07 will survive to it, later release will move to 2.0
anyway.
Hilaire
--
Dr. Geo
James
sorry but I'm at home stopped for 10 days because of a burnout (linked partly
to pharo and the business I want to spawn for the community).
We talked endlessly about namespaces and so far we lived happily without. Right
now I will not talk about that. Read subsystem the paper of
Anyway, Hilaire, if you want to get rid of that progress bar, you only have
to evaluate:
SystemProgressMorph reset.
So maybe adding that line at the end of your script can be a workaround...
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:03 AM, Hilaire Fernandes
hilaire.fernan...@edu.ge.ch wrote:
On 25/06/2012
Hey, thanks! This comes handy for my app as well :^)
Hilaire, a question: what do you recommend as VM to run DrGeo on an android
system? (I am doing a maths app with my wife. It runs fine on iOS/iPad but
I'd like to try it out on android systems).
Question: did you had any issues with loading
Hi guys
I'm checking magritte 30 to write a updated chapter for the seaside book on
magritte and the configurationOfMagritte30 seems wrong to me
the stable declaration is
stable: spec
symbolicVersion: #stable
spec for: #'common' version: '3.0'.
while it should be
Of course I meant
stable: spec
symbolicVersion: #stable
spec for: #'1.3.x' version: '3.0'.
spec for: #'1.3.x' version: '3.0'.
Now dale what is the meaning of common when we have?
Does metacello know automatically that it should load common + pharo?
On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:24 AM, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
Stephane,
Wow, there is a limit to your utter awesomeness... Take care!
On this namespace thing... Well, in fact, I found that nice with Java but at
the end of the day, what matters is the modular bit. And we have that with
Ok and I'm happy since I wrote a complete section (section 1.11) on that in the
Metacello book chapter and everything is explained.
I just totally forgot and was sleepy (too many decontracting pills do not help
my mind).
so forget the post.
Now I found some bugs in the chapter before that
On 27/06/2012 09:09, Guillermo Polito wrote:
Anyway, Hilaire, if you want to get rid of that progress bar, you only have
to evaluate:
SystemProgressMorph reset.
So maybe adding that line at the end of your script can be a workaround...
I did that in my own code (but now I am using
On 27/06/2012 09:14, p...@highoctane.be wrote:
Hilaire, a question: what do you recommend as VM to run DrGeo on an android
system? (I am doing a maths app with my wife. It runs fine on iOS/iPad but
I'd like to try it out on android systems).
I am using the stack version of Dimitry. Therefore,
Yes, finishing things up is the hardest part. It is also the part that
makes people and great art remembered.
As I wrote yesterday on Twitter: Execution is everything. Ideas are nothing.
I should add: and everything gets better with late binding :-p
Phil
2012/6/27 Stéphane Ducasse
I am doing something on Produits remarquables
It is too ugly to show right now. But I have got the exercises set
generated, and all the touch interaction working with morphs and some help
screens.
Now I am working on making it look nicer and checking the student answers
with the right ones.
20163
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Issue 5972: Clean in perform: aSelector orSendTo: another
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5972
Issue 6175: Spec example has Undeclared reference
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6175
Issue 6176: Add Zodiac
14445
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Issue 5742: BallonMorph shows flyover help using an extra line
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=5742
Issue 6150: During snapshot: Send cr after Transcript message for 1.4
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6150
BUILD FAILUREBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/pharo-2.0-tests/./Architecture=32,OS=win/164/Project:Architecture=32,OS=winDate of build:Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:17:10 +0200Build duration:6 min 49 secCHANGESNo ChangesCONSOLE OUTPUT[...truncated 724 lines...] ctx := each isActiveProcess
BUILD FAILUREBuild URLhttps://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/pharo-2.0-tests/./Architecture=32,OS=mac/164/Project:Architecture=32,OS=macDate of build:Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:17:10 +0200Build duration:8 min 43 secCHANGESNo ChangesCONSOLE OUTPUT[...truncated 1073 lines...] ifTrue: [thisContext
It's a testcase without tests :). Seems to have a template to validate
package dependencies... but no subclasses either...
And it's in SUnit-Core-Tests :/
For now I'll submit an issue to recategorize it.
Select the three statements at once and evaluate them:
NonInteractiveTranscript stdout install.
Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true.
Transcript show: 'hello'.
Then reopen your image... Bump! stdout is closed.
Of course, It got closed when the image quitted, but the
NonInteractiveTranscript
Hi Denis,
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Denis Kudriashov dionisi...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello.
What is responsibility of environments (russian, japanese) classes.
Why its needed? Why converter classes not enough?
For example, I can write russian text at workspace without setting any
Hi Guillermomo,
On 27 Jun 2012, at 14:50, Guillermo Polito wrote:
Select the three statements at once and evaluate them:
NonInteractiveTranscript stdout install.
Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true.
Transcript show: 'hello'.
Then reopen your image... Bump! stdout is closed.
Of
The trigger for 1.4 is broken too. It seems that it's an authentication
error, but the pages that the trigger (the update lists) is checking does
not require permissions - I can view them in safari without logging in. If
someone will just remove the authentication info from the triggers, I think
Dario Trussardi wrote
i work with Pharo1.4Latest update: #14445 on MacBook.
I'm interested to do TLS with Zodiac.
Funny, literally 5 minutes ago I was thinking maybe Zodiac should be
included in 1.4...
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On 27.06.2012 15:54, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Dario Trussardi wrote
i work with Pharo1.4Latest update: #14445 on MacBook.
I'm interested to do TLS with Zodiac.
Funny, literally 5 minutes ago I was thinking maybe Zodiac should be
included in 1.4...
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Sven,
i'm not expert about VM.
Dario,
On 27 Jun 2012, at 15:29, Dario Trussardi wrote:
Hi,
i work with Pharo1.4Latest update: #14445 on MacBook.
I'm interested to do TLS with Zodiac.
I load the relative Zodiac 1.0 version
In the
Dario Trussardi wrote
Ok, i download it for MAC and paste it into Pharo-1.4-one-click content.
If you want to use the one-click (which contains the VMs for
Windows/Mac/Linux and the image), just download the pre-made one for Pharo
1.4 at
20164
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Issue 6186: fix Delay initialization
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6186
Issue 6178: All test jobs fail due to error in Zodiac tests
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6178
Issue 6183: Unicode initialization
On 27 Jun 2012, at 16:21, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
Well, there's for sure no SqueakSSL so's or dll's in the downloads.
I assumed it might be set to build as internal, in which case it doesn't seem
to be working as intended (at least on Windows)
It is there the latest Mac OS and Linux
Stef,
I'm sorry to hear about your burnout and I understand that you are not prepared
to seriously discuss the issues that others have raised. I hope when the issue
is raised again (it does seem to come up every year or so!) we can correct some
of the misunderstandings that exist.
Best
Ciao
Dario Trussardi wrote
Ok, i download it for MAC and paste it into Pharo-1.4-one-click content.
If you want to use the one-click (which contains the VMs for
Windows/Mac/Linux and the image), just download the pre-made one for Pharo
1.4 at
20165
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Issue 6184: Clean LanguageEnvironment initialization and startup
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6184
Issue 6177: Refactor in ClassSearch
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6177
Issue 6179: InMidstOfFileinNotification
20166
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Issue 6185: Number#@ should not be part of Graphics
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6185
Issue 6143: MIME decoding and Unicode not working
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6143
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ok but how can we build a concrete roadmap.
What are the steps that we can take and perform one by one.
Stef
On Jun 27, 2012, at 3:11 PM, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
On 25.06.2012 18:06, Denis Kudriashov wrote:
Hello.
What is responsibility of environments (russian, japanese) classes.
On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:44 PM, James Foster wrote:
Stef,
I'm sorry to hear about your burnout and I understand that you are not
prepared to seriously discuss the issues that others have raised. I hope when
the issue is raised again (it does seem to come up every year or so!) we can
I've spent 3 hours on trying to understand deeply the Multilingual mess,
but I'm dying in the process... It mixes environments with charsets...
Some charsets and converters are for really old OS versions... Sometimes it
uses unicode, some times not... argggdsdsa
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM,
Dario Trussardi wrote
OK, but how i can integrate the new VM with my hold image ?
...
For now i copy the:
PharoV10.sources
*.image
*.change
into the new CogVM / Contents / Resources
You got it! You actually just need the image and changes files.
If
Germán Leiva wrote
OT: Late binding rocks!
Yes, and the latest binding would be to lookup at runtime. I have no idea
what the performance hit would be, or if we would use all that power, but
the idea is exciting :)
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I'd like to update the URL Trigger plugin to the latest version before
proceeding with Issue 6076:Pharo Jenkins build triggers not working. Is
it alright if I do that and restart through the web UI? That's how I do it
on my personal Jenkins, but wanted to check first with the Jenkins team...
Guys,
All Zodiac tests on the build server fail because there seems to be no SSL
plugin (or maybe the right SSL libs 32bit are not installed).
Error Message
primitive #primitiveSSLCreate in ZdcPluginSSLSession failed
Stacktrace
ZdcPluginSSLSession(Object)primitiveFailed:
On 27/06/12 18:05, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Germán Leiva wrote
OT: Late binding rocks!
Yes, and the latest binding would be to lookup at runtime. I have no idea
what the performance hit would be, or if we would use all that power, but
the idea is exciting :)
With proper caching at VM
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote
All Zodiac tests on the build server fail because there seems to be no SSL
plugin (or maybe the right SSL libs 32bit are not installed).
The plugin is included and working for Mac, only 1 failure:
Zinc.Zodiac.ZnHTTPSTests.testWikimedia (from Zinc-Zodiac)...
On 27 Jun 2012, at 19:52, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote
All Zodiac tests on the build server fail because there seems to be no SSL
plugin (or maybe the right SSL libs 32bit are not installed).
The plugin is included and working for Mac, only 1 failure:
On 27 June 2012 19:57, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be wrote:
On 27 Jun 2012, at 19:52, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:
Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote
All Zodiac tests on the build server fail because there seems to be no SSL
plugin (or maybe the right SSL libs 32bit are not installed).
The
On 27 June 2012 19:10, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
I'd like to update the URL Trigger plugin to the latest version before
proceeding with Issue 6076: Pharo Jenkins build triggers not working. Is
it alright if I do that and restart through the web UI? That's how I do it
on
Igor Stasenko wrote
It should be there out of the box.
CHeck the version of VM you using
I verified the primitive error on Windows XP with a 1.4 one-click I
downloaded this morning. Here's the VM report:
Virtual Machine
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Z:\Pharo-1.4-one-click.app\CogVM.exe
CoInterpreter
On 27 June 2012 16:38, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be wrote:
On 27 Jun 2012, at 16:21, Henrik Sperre Johansen wrote:
Well, there's for sure no SqueakSSL so's or dll's in the downloads.
I assumed it might be set to build as internal, in which case it doesn't
seem to be working as
On 27 Jun 2012, at 20:05, Igor Stasenko wrote:
It should be there out of the box.
CHeck the version of VM you using
Smalltalk vm version.
If something is broken, then it should be fixed :)
But i am not sure about that, because i am certainly not using SSL
daily, so good testing
and
On 27 Jun 2012, at 20:37, Igor Stasenko wrote:
Right, we got SSL only for mac and linux.
For windows, AFAIK someone told that it has never worked. I think if
you search mailing list archive for SSL and windows you will find it
quickly.
It does/should work, whether it works headless
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
I verified the primitive error on Windows XP with a 1.4 one-click I
downloaded this morning. Here's the VM report...
I used the same VM on Ubuntu and got PrimitiveFailed: primitive
#primitiveSSLCreate in ZdcPluginSSLSession failed error when evaluating
ZnClient new
Maybe zodiac can suggest you to have a look at that into the exception
(according to the os you're using)? :)
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.bewrote:
On 27 Jun 2012, at 20:05, Igor Stasenko wrote:
It should be there out of the box.
CHeck the version of
We should really shift the paradigm of assuming that plugins is there towards
having a nice error handling/presenting the reason why it fails, like
in this case
it should try and detect that plugin is not found/cannot be loaded and
produce correct error message
instead of very informal primitive
On 27 Jun 2012, at 22:48, Igor Stasenko wrote:
We should really shift the paradigm of assuming that plugins is there towards
having a nice error handling/presenting the reason why it fails, like
in this case
it should try and detect that plugin is not found/cannot be loaded and
produce
On 27 June 2012 23:53, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@beta9.be wrote:
On 27 Jun 2012, at 22:48, Igor Stasenko wrote:
We should really shift the paradigm of assuming that plugins is there towards
having a nice error handling/presenting the reason why it fails, like
in this case
it should try and
+20 :)
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To: Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr
Subject: Re:
Seeing another thread about is XYZ plugin there or not or what may
cause prim fail
i REALLY suggest that we should stop and think..
This plugin's usage logic is inherently flawed.. (or i would say outdated)
What i would like to see one day is when i installing new code into
image, it pops up a
Jan Vrany-3 wrote
With proper caching at VM level, the performance overhead would be
negligible.
Good to know. Thanks!
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Late binding, yes. But please stop using Global word :)
The Global word pins you to a little piece of dust floating in
gazillion times bigger space.
Think about it every time you think you found solution, which requires
having some global state/functionality in your model.
:)
On 27 June 2012
I want to second Stef's word.
Coming from C++ world with namespaces at some point i felt like i
really miss that.
But my practice shows that what i miss is not a mere syntactic sugar
or tool support of having multiple namespaces.
No.
What i miss is the true modular system, where modules are
I agree, except for silent updates. One should at know what is happening, and
further be able to run a broken mixture, if only for debugging.
From: pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr
[pharo-project-boun...@lists.gforge.inria.fr] on behalf of
What i would like to see one day is when i installing new code into
image, it pops up a message:
Your VM missing an XYZ plugin for running this cool code, would you
like to download and install it? Yes No
The first problem is that there is no consolidated way to find
the plugins. Or am I'm
Camillo Bruni-3 wrote
That was a quick hack to support a decent menu item entry when adding a
repository.
Well, it's not necessarily a bad design. If we can keep them, I'd like to
add class inst vars to MCHttpRepository for user and password, so we can
supply credentials to be used for
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