Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread Alistair Grant
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 09:50:46PM +0200, Herby Vojk wrote: > stephan wrote: > >On 11-10-17 20:33, Herby Vojk wrote: > >>127 is general, is not sqlite-specific. Fixes any case where primary > >>key is not primitive and has converter. > > > >Should 127 and 129 be merged first, and should

Re: [Pharo-users] Custom URI scheme for Pharo

2017-10-11 Thread Manuel Leuenberger
Sounds like a nice setup you got there :). I want to integrate documents displayed in the system viewer, as they cannot be displayed within Pharo (Web, PDF, …). So hyperlinking is the only way I see to get something close. I created a little demo where I injected hyperlinks in a PDF like

Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread Herby Vojčík
stephan wrote: On 11-10-17 21:50, Herby Vojčík wrote: 129 is from different author, who skipped upload of its 127 and 128 (probably intermediates). 127 is mine, fixes IMO overoptimized case for DirectMapping which unlike its superclass (thus all the other mappings as there is no other

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:08 AM, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Yes sorry for not making this clear. I was wrong in this case. A module > reload will only replace class objects not instance objects. So if you > create a new instance after the reload it will have the updated

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk on Artificial Intelligence & Neural Networks

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I am interested in code analysis so any guidance in this area I love it , AI related of course On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 at 16:12, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > I would like to advertise the TechTalk for colleagues of my lab. > They can join Discord using the invitation link ?

Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread stephan
On 11-10-17 21:50, Herby Vojčík wrote: 129 is from different author, who skipped upload of its 127 and 128 (probably intermediates). 127 is mine, fixes IMO overoptimized case for DirectMapping which unlike its superclass (thus all the other mappings as there is no other specialization),

Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread Herby Vojčík
stephan wrote: On 11-10-17 20:33, Herby Vojčík wrote: 127 is general, is not sqlite-specific. Fixes any case where primary key is not primitive and has converter. Should 127 and 129 be merged first, and should current development be promoted to release? And why is 128 missing? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread stephan
On 11-10-17 20:33, Herby Vojčík wrote: 127 is general, is not sqlite-specific. Fixes any case where primary key is not primitive and has converter. Should 127 and 129 be merged first, and should current development be promoted to release? And why is 128 missing? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] X11 options on Ubuntu VM / Athens rendering problems

2017-10-11 Thread Hilaire
We tested it on P6.1 64bits, and this Cairo crash seems to be gone. It may need more testing though. Is it thanks to P6.1 or the 64bits image/VM? It looks strange because it looked like a lib Cairo crash, but in the other hand the faulty C function did not appear to be called from Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread Herby Vojčík
stephan wrote: On 06-10-17 17:22, Herby Vojčík wrote: Any chance of incorporating fixes 127 / 129? Sure, as soon as someone tells me they are safe to add. I am just testing Glorp with P3 and Postgres now, and don't have the capacity to verify these changes other than by just reading the

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Well there is a move towards Pillar for class and method commands so who knows maybe we will have that soon enough ;) There is a solution, not a great solution but it can do this. You can kinda do this via metacello and filetree, because when you export to git , it coverts class and method

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
major mistake i meant to say "providing a full live enviroment it would NOT be easy because I would have to find a mechanism to accomodate for tons of Python code that does not follow live coding standards " On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 8:08 PM Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Yes

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Yes sorry for not making this clear. I was wrong in this case. A module reload will only replace class objects not instance objects. So if you create a new instance after the reload it will have the updated version but your old instance would not. I try to test something before I make a claim but

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Pierce Ng
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 01:41:17AM +, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > execution. Hence live coding, the Python VM replaces objects lively. Python > can also compile any size of code including individual methods. > That happens with one line of code importlib.reload(mymodule) AFAIK in Python when

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Seaside for html live docs browsing seems a good idea. How do you create something like [1]?: [1] http://files.pharo.org/doc/4.0/#packageList=package.html=package/Kernel.html=welcome.html Cheers, Offray On 11/10/17 10:31, Marcus Denker wrote: > > >> On 11 Oct 2017, at 17:18, Thierry Goubier

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Marcus Denker
> On 11 Oct 2017, at 17:18, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > What about a seaside-based system browser oriented towards code > documentation? That would fit both paradigms: html-like reference + live > browsing. > > You could even make it buzzword compliant: have a REST

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 11 Oct 2017, at 17:18, Thierry Goubier wrote: > > What about a seaside-based system browser oriented towards code > documentation? That would fit both paradigms: html-like reference + live > browsing. > > You could even make it buzzword compliant: have a REST

Re: [Pharo-users] Error loading Seaside Gettext support

2017-10-11 Thread Trussardi Dario Romano
Excuse me.. it's for Seaside problematic and relative mails ... Sorry, Dario > Ciao, >> Ciao, >> >> i load correctly the Gettext support into: Pharo 6.1-64 Latest >> update: #60510 >> >> In the image was load the Seaside 3.2 >> Now i

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Thierry Goubier
What about a seaside-based system browser oriented towards code documentation? That would fit both paradigms: html-like reference + live browsing. You could even make it buzzword compliant: have a REST interface to documentation and code. Note how the panes in a system browser could make for a

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Yes. I know them. I mean API docs as static files. I don't really sold on them compared with a live system and I don't think static API docs are critical for Pharo success. Cheers, Offray On 11/10/17 09:52, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Ah and my static website was built with Pillar and

Re: [Pharo-users] Error loading Seaside Gettext support

2017-10-11 Thread Trussardi Dario Romano
Ciao, > Ciao, > > i load correctly the Gettext support into: Pharo 6.1-64 Latest > update: #60510 > > In the image was load the Seaside 3.2 > Now i do: > > (ConfigurationOfSeaside3 project version: #stable ) > load: #( 'Seaside-Gettext-Core'

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Ah and my static website was built with Pillar and Bootstrap, using bootstrap templates was easy because Pillar supports mustache that makes html manipulation much easier http://www.kilon-alios.com Pillar of course is not made for generating websites but it’s an awesome Pharo library that allows

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
Docs are available in static online html format , at least the book I was working on Pharo By Example You can find those links here https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/UpdatedPharoByExample Our documentation system , Pillar , outputs pdf , html and markdown files. If the book in

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Christophe Demarey < christophe.dema...@inria.fr> wrote: > Hi Vitor, > > Le 10 oct. 2017 à 19:00, Vitor Medina Cruz a écrit > : > > « Program » folder is the default location where to install apps on >> Windows. >> If a user does not have

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
The more I use Pharo, the less I use web documentation. For me seems pretty suboptimal compared to live environment with code browser and GT-Spotter. Regarding the comment on Medium, it also took me little to find #raisedTo:, so the millage can vary. What I was missing was proper books for

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-11 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 11 oct. 2017 à 12:10, stephan a écrit : > > On 06-10-17 13:26, Christophe Demarey wrote: >> For those wanted more info on how the adequate VM is computed, here is the >> process: >> determine the image format version >> find (and optionnaly fetch) a compatible VM (a VM

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Mark Bestley
horrido wrote: > Interestingly, I'm getting a fair amount of pushback on this. Personally, I > think it would be very helpful to have a live (updatable, so as to keep it > current) reference page for the class library, something that developers can > easily look up

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] TechTalk on Artificial Intelligence & Neural Networks

2017-10-11 Thread Serge Stinckwich
I would like to advertise the TechTalk for colleagues of my lab. They can join Discord using the invitation link ? http://discord.gg/Sj2rhxn On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > Dear All, > > A TechTalk on Artificial Intelligence is soon

Re: [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] 17th Oct: Artificial Intelligence

2017-10-11 Thread Marcus Denker
It should use Youtube live Streaming again, so yes. (like the ones here: http://pharo.org/TechTalk ) > On 11 Oct 2017, at 14:19, jtuc...@objektfabrik.de wrote: > > Will this TechTalk be recorded? I will most likely not have time at that > time... > > Joachim > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
for me it is a yes and no situation, yes its very coold to have your entire system in your fingertips but Pharo has serious issues with code organisation and I find the lack of namespaces quite inconvenient. You have to be careful how to name your classes which does not sound to me very OOP

Re: [Pharo-users] [TechTalk] 17th Oct: Artificial Intelligence

2017-10-11 Thread jtuc...@objektfabrik.de
Will this TechTalk be recorded? I will most likely not have time at that time... Joachim Am 11.10.17 um 09:47 schrieb Marcus Denker: Pharo TechTalk: Artificial Intelligence A regular chat about Pharo. Happens on Discord. Topic: Artificial Intelligence. This is an

[Pharo-users] TechTalk on Artificial Intelligence & Neural Networks

2017-10-11 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Dear All, A TechTalk on Artificial Intelligence is soon approaching. The talk will be about implementing a neural networks in Pharo. It is scheduled on Tuesday 17Oct, 2017 (5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+02:00)) I need your input. Which example to you want me to use? - Data manipulation, or

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-11 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
I dunno, maybe I’m weird, but I find the System Browser a fantastic way to explore the class library. If you find a class or method that isn’t well documented, write a comment and send a change request. Stef told me this ages ago. I might add, if you find a bug you should write a test that

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-11 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Hi Christophe, Yes, but: 1- I can’t execute it if I don’t have administrative rights — I have tried with the provided link. Before I get to the installation directory choice, windows prompt me an error telling me I must be an admin. It is probably some windows policy for all exe files, I know it

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-11 Thread stephan
On 06-10-17 13:26, Christophe Demarey wrote: For those wanted more info on how the adequate VM is computed, here is the process: determine the image format version find (and optionnaly fetch) a compatible VM (a VM able to run this image format) and run the image to get its Pharo version number

Re: [Pharo-users] Update of ConfigurationOfGlorp

2017-10-11 Thread stephan
On 06-10-17 17:22, Herby Vojčík wrote: Any chance of incorporating fixes 127 / 129? Sure, as soon as someone tells me they are safe to add. I am just testing Glorp with P3 and Postgres now, and don't have the capacity to verify these changes other than by just reading the delta. Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Videos ESUG17 Day1 online

2017-10-11 Thread Tudor Girba
Thanks, Marcus! Doru > On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > Hi, > > The videos of the first day are online: > > https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ5nSnWzQXi_THfKwhzxFwbXy00YTi0uv > > > More coming soon. > > Marcus > > --

[Pharo-users] Videos ESUG17 Day1 online

2017-10-11 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi, The videos of the first day are online: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ5nSnWzQXi_THfKwhzxFwbXy00YTi0uv More coming soon. Marcus

[Pharo-users] [TechTalk] 17th Oct: Artificial Intelligence

2017-10-11 Thread Marcus Denker
Pharo TechTalk: Artificial Intelligence A regular chat about Pharo. Happens on Discord. Topic: Artificial Intelligence. This is an interactive mini lecture about AI by Alexandre Bergel. 17 Oct 2017 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+02:00) This is 17h Paris time. you can

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-11 Thread Christophe Demarey
Hi Vitor, > Le 10 oct. 2017 à 19:00, Vitor Medina Cruz a écrit : > > « Program » folder is the default location where to install apps on Windows. > If a user does not have admin rights, he can simply install it under its home > directory. > >> Also there is the UAC

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] PharoLauncher v1.0.1 released!

2017-10-11 Thread Christophe Demarey
> Le 9 oct. 2017 à 15:56, Peter Uhnák a écrit : > I guess I hate when applications are throwing their garbage into my $HOME > (this also goes for VirtualBox, Eclipse, and everyone else). Perfectly understandable. > If I am not accessing the files directly, but they are

Re: [Pharo-users] Embedded PDF viewer?

2017-10-11 Thread Ben Coman
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Manuel Leuenberger > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I want to view a PDF within Pharo. I found that Athens has a PDF > canvas, but I have no idea how to use

Re: [Pharo-users] Embedded PDF viewer?

2017-10-11 Thread Ben Coman
> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Manuel Leuenberger > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I want to view a PDF within Pharo. I found that Athens has a PDF canvas, but I have no idea how to use it. Is there a way to view a PDF within Pharo, so that I can scroll, zoom, click links