Hi Ted,
Don't worry and take your time. I tend to write looong (this list should
be thankful of English not being my first language and I mostly self
learned after crappy courses, if not, you will have me writing even
longer ;-P).
About entry points, one of the things I like about Pharo is that
Hi Offray,
Just wanted to let you know that I enjoyed your several responses, and that
I'm working on following-up to them.
But first I wanted to look at all your links and make as thoughtful a reply
as you have, and that takes a while...
I think what you've been working on could be a good
> One more thought on this... I assume you've seen Jupyter Notebooks?
> They're starting to see some use where I work (we now have our own
> 'enterprise server'). I recently took an intro class to see how it works,
> and how to use them.
>
> How much of a "Jupyter-style" notebook capability
> >>> I've been thinking lately that it would be nice to expand the number of
> >>> Pharo tutorials we have available. But rather than (or along with)
> >>> creating
> >>> more "beginner" level tutorials, I'd like to see some good
> "intermediate"
> >>> level Pharo tutorials.
> >>
> >> Me
Hi again :-),
I forgot to mention about the Spec2 migration plans, so a (hopefully)
short comment on that.
Last ESUG I talked with Guille and Esteban about combining Spec(1) and
Spec2 in a single interface. The idea is to be able to embed Spec old
widgets into Spec2, as they are progressively
Hi,
On 5/08/20 9:43 a. m., tbrunz wrote:
>>> Okay, I'll do that. But this brings up a more general question...
>>>
>>> If I wanted to add a diagram, or maybe a document with equations
>> (rendered
>>> in LaTex), then a class comment wouldn't work.
>>>
>>> ...Unless that's intended to be part
Hi Offray,
I think you're addressing many of the same concerns as I am, with more of a
web/browser orientation perhaps...
Which is good. Pharo can make nice, interactive web sites as well as nice,
interactive documents, can it not?
> I think that we still can make a compelling case for wider
> > Okay, I'll do that. But this brings up a more general question...
> >
> > If I wanted to add a diagram, or maybe a document with equations
> (rendered
> > in LaTex), then a class comment wouldn't work.
> >
> > ...Unless that's intended to be part of the newer format??
>
>
> Microdown
> Okay, I'll do that. But this brings up a more general question...
>
> If I wanted to add a diagram, or maybe a document with equations (rendered
> in LaTex), then a class comment wouldn't work.
>
> ...Unless that's intended to be part of the newer format??
Microdown supports latex via
Hi,
Is nice to see this thread.
Our approach to building documentation is a problem/local first one. So
we go from particular problems/projects as need of the community
dictate them. We do workshops and create the documentation while the
workshop is happening and then we compile such
Okay, I'll do that. But this brings up a more general question...
If I wanted to add a diagram, or maybe a document with equations (rendered
in LaTex), then a class comment wouldn't work.
...Unless that's intended to be part of the newer format??
-t
> I would put it in class comment.
>
>
I would put it in class comment.
We are about to release a nicer rendering of comments.
S.
> On 4 Aug 2020, at 06:46, tbrunz wrote:
>
> I wrote a "theory of operation" document for my app,
> https://github.com/tbrunz/logic-puzzle
>
> But then I realized, "Where do I put it??"
>
> I
I wrote a "theory of operation" document for my app,
https://github.com/tbrunz/logic-puzzle
But then I realized, "Where do I put it??"
I thought of a few possibilities:
* Commit it to the git repo, but then it wouldn't be easy to access from
Pharo,
* Add it to a top-level Pharo class comment,
Hi
Thanks I was planning to implement it.
I asked Esteban to take the time to integrate my PR.
Now can you send some PRs to the version of esteban like that we will get a
better version.
And you can open issues on his repo
We will fix them.
S
> On 2 Aug 2020, at 20:22, Russ Whaley wrote:
Well, the very next step in the tutorial says:
How does this look?
Now we can open our task list manager as follows:
TODOApplication new run.
However, TODOApplication has not yet been connected to anything...
displaying the UI that is depicted in the tutorial is not achievable at
this point...
Here are a couple of items with my first 5 minutes with the TODO tutorial...
TODOListPresenter >> initializePresenters
todoListPresenter := self newTable
addColumn: ((SpCheckBoxTableColumn evaluated: [:task | task
isDone])
width: 20);
addColumn:
>> Let's do it, then. I'll volunteer to do most of the work. :^)
>
>I will review anything you write :)
I'll write well and add lots of comments to make that easy for you. :^D
>> My hope is that participating in this will make me capable of creating
>> advanced tutorials all by myself.
>
>I
> On 2 Aug 2020, at 19:51, tbrunz wrote:
>
>>> I've been thinking lately that it would be nice to expand the number of
>>> Pharo tutorials we have available. But rather than (or along with)
>>> creating
>>> more "beginner" level tutorials, I'd like to see some good "intermediate"
>>> level
>> I've been thinking lately that it would be nice to expand the number of
>> Pharo tutorials we have available. But rather than (or along with)
>> creating
>> more "beginner" level tutorials, I'd like to see some good "intermediate"
>> level Pharo tutorials.
>
>Me too :)
Let's do it, then.
> On 2 Aug 2020, at 15:33, Russ Whaley wrote:
>
> EXACTLY!, Stéphane, thank you! I will go through this tutorial today.
>
> Has anyone written any documentation or maybe a tool that would help
> understand what each ‘widget’ is capable of? I review all example code, read
> all class
EXACTLY!, Stéphane, thank you! I will go through this tutorial today.
Has anyone written any documentation or maybe a tool that would help
understand what each ‘widget’ is capable of? I review all example code,
read all class comments and peruse the class hierarchy, but when a widget
capability
> On 29 Jul 2020, at 05:06, Russ Whaley wrote:
>
> Back on the 'Intermediate Tutorials' question...
>
> I would love to see intermediate tutorials on Spec2 and Seaside and
> perhaps how to best adapt an (Sp)Application to serve both 'presenters' with
> guidelines on what responsibility
> On 28 Jul 2020, at 05:38, tbrunz wrote:
>
> tl;dr: I have some ideas about more advanced Pharo tutorials, and I have an
> example that I would like to have reviewed/critiqued before I develop it any
> further.
>
> I've been thinking lately that it would be nice to expand the number of
>
Hi Russ,
I added an "Examples" package tag, with several methods that lead through
the Zebra Puzzle solution, step by step.
It still doesn't do the entire solution by itself, but each example method
displays the solution state up to that point, allowing you to examine the
results and infer
I also would love to see intermediate tutorials on Spec2 and Seaside. (And
Zinc and Teapot, too, for that matter.)
And the example/tutorial I'm working on really *should* have a Spec2 _and_ a
Seaside/Teapot interface. But that's a bit over my head... Which is
frustrating; I want to know how to
Back on the 'Intermediate Tutorials' question...
I would love to see intermediate tutorials on Spec2 and Seaside and
perhaps how to best adapt an (Sp)Application to serve both 'presenters'
with guidelines on what responsibility goes where on the
presenter/component, application, and model(s).
So I decided to write an application to solve the Zebra Puzzle, by solving
this type of problem in general. In Pharo, of course.
I worked out a few basic algorithms for making deductions and inferences,
and coded them, along with tests, in Pharo 8. Now I've reached the point of
having a
Having solved a number of these problems in my youth, I tried to solve this
one "by hand". But with 6 attributes of 5 properties each, the
"bookkeeping" task was too difficult to deal with while trying to find a
consistent solution.
It turns out that it's very easy to make an inconsistent
Recently, I came up with one such project that might work here, and I spent
some time prototyping it. The project is to create an application in Pharo
that can solve the "Zebra Puzzle".
What's the Zebra Puzzle? It's an example of a "constraint satisfaction
problem", which are also known as
tl;dr: I have some ideas about more advanced Pharo tutorials, and I have an
example that I would like to have reviewed/critiqued before I develop it any
further.
I've been thinking lately that it would be nice to expand the number of
Pharo tutorials we have available. But rather than (or along
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