[Pharo-users] Inspector #send: has vanished

Returning to Pharo after some time away and it seems the inspector API has changed a bit. In particular, I can't seem to find the #send: method that used to allow a list presenter to intercept and modify selected objects before they were displayed in the next panel of the inspector: inspectItems:

[Pharo-users] Audio Capture in Pharo

Hello, Does anyone know if it is currently possible to capture sound from the microphone in Pharo? I found this blog post that seemed to suggest that it wasn't possible in 2020: https://thepharo.dev/2020/11/17/how-to-play-sound-in-pharo/ Thanks, Evan

[Pharo-users] ABBench: Lightweight Microbenchmarking Library

Hello, I've just released a utility I've been using for the past few years to help optimize Pharo code. It's a library that makes it easy to check whether an optimization has improved performance by wrapping the optimization and the old code in an if block and executing the optimized and

[Pharo-users] Roassal3 Popups

Hello, Just returning to Pharo after 1000 years and have discovered that Roassal has upgraded to Roassal3. Trying to update my inspector integrations and can't seem to figure out how to get popups working. How can I get popups for the y values in a scatter plot such as the following: RSChart new

[Pharo-users] MetaLinks for Dynamic Contracts

Hello, I am returning to some work in Pharo after about ~2.5 years and reminding myself of what I was working on before I got sidetracked. It appears I had mostly finished for release a dynamic contracts library for run time type checking based on Racket's contract library.[1] However, it relied

[Pharo-users] Cargo & Future Proofing Releases

Hi, I will have a few general interest packages to release in the near future, for performance testing, contracts, and the like, and I'm wondering what the current story is for package release. I've heard some things about an upcoming "Cargo" package manager, so I'm wondering what the timeline on

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher & Stored Settings

Hmm, the only things I'm trying to accomplish are 1) use Pharo Launcher and 2) have each new image keep its repositories separate, as advised by others on the list, so that different images can check out different branches. Does that set up require custom scripting to adjust the repo path? The

[Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher & Stored Settings

Is there a way to handle settings that should be different for every image when using Pharo Launcher? In particular, Settings > Software Configuraiton > Monticello > Default Local Repository & Local Cache Directory should be specific to the new image, but if I ever store settings for any reason,

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

Try: Metacello new githubUser: 'jmari' project: 'JupyterTalk' commitish: 'master' path: 'repository'; baseline: 'JupyterTalk'; load -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Monticello default repositories & Iceberg

Thanks to these replies I found the issue, but I'm not sure how to solve it. I found the start up script. I have never consciously set it, but I assume some process in the distant past automatically created it for me. The issue was that the settings for: #monticello#cacheDirectory and

[Pharo-users] Monticello default repositories & Iceberg

I am using Pharo Launcher. Currently, if I create a new image and go to Settings > Software Configuration > Monticello, I see a "default local repository" and a "local cache directory" that point to old obsolete paths from years ago on my machine. As a result, I'm having trouble using iceberg

[Pharo-users] Loading Local Repositories with Iceberg

I'm using the Pharo 6.1 image with the Pharo Launcher. I have committed changes to several local github repos through Iceberg. I would like to be able to clone a new 6.1 image and load all the locally committed packages. I have "Share repositories between images" checked in both images, and the

Re: [Pharo-users] Reverting changes in Iceberg

Thanks. Command line didn't occur to me. Functional fixedness. Evan -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] looking for another iterator :)

It is also worth mentioning that there is now also the Cons library available through the Pharo6 catalog browser. Cons is a lazy linked list that can be used like a normal linked list, but can also be used as an iterator over streams or infinite-sequence-generating blocks, using the usual Pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg Branching

Hi, I think it's ok. I had accidentally gotten a 70 alpha version. Workflow seems fine on 61 and 70 stable versions. I tried to go in again and see what the error message was on the alpha version, but something else went wrong, and then I discovered that it had somehow found my actual working

[Pharo-users] Iceberg Branching

What's the current status of branching? I can create, switch, and commit to branches, but my attempts to load code from other branches throws errors. Since branching isn't thoroughly documented in the readme yet afaict, I just wanted to check whether it was known to be 'under development' and I

[Pharo-users] Removing contents-changed marker from Rubric on save

Currently, if you add a "composite text" view using gtInspector, the editor lets you use ctrl+s to save changes to the local inspector. However, if you intercept ctrl+s to implement an actual save function, as FileReference does, the text editor no longer knows to remove the contents-changed

Re: [Pharo-users] Releasing to Catalog

Ok, that works. Thanks. My last question is about adding a development symbolic version. Can I use my existing BaselineOf class somehow as a baseline from within my ConfigurationOf "" method, or should I define a redundant "baseline: spec" method in the Configuration of the old fashioned way?

[Pharo-users] Pharo Catalog Submission

Hi, I have just finished making a BaselineOf and ConfigurationOf for submitting my github-based project to the Pharo catalog. If my ConfigurationOf is with my code on github (via Iceberg), what Metacello command should I run to test that it works correctly before submitting to the catalog (to

[Pharo-users] Getting Iceberg Commits Back to Github

Hi, Once I have cloned my github repository and committed changes locally, how do I actually get those changes back to github? I went to synchronize repository > push > publish all, and it has a loading bar for a few seconds that says "pushing local commits to origin," but github reflects no

[Pharo-users] Roassal Axes

Does anyone know how to change the min/max of the axes? I'm trying to figure out how to make x and y not start at 0. data := #(1000 1001 1002). b := RTGrapher new. ds := RTData new. ds points: data. ds x: [ :c | c ]. ds y: [ :c | c ]. b add: ds. b minX: 999. b maxX: 1003. b minY: 999. b maxY:

Re: [Pharo-users] Iceberg: Code directory missing

Got it. I didn't realize the code subdirectory wasn't automatically created by Iceberg if it didn't exist. I deleted the subdirectory name in the repo config and my code seems to have made it to github. I submitted a pull request with some clarifications to the iceberg readme. Thanks, Evan --

[Pharo-users] Iceberg: Code directory missing

Hi, I'm trying to push a local project to github via iceberg. I just pulled the stable 70 threaded image & vm pair (70+vmT) and tried to follow the instructions on the iceberg github page, but after successfully cloning the new empty repo on github (I can see the README), the iceberg browser just

[Pharo-users] Package Discoverability

Hello, I was wondering what the current story was for releasing packages so that they can be discovered. I'm trying to get into the habit of finishing and releasing all those 90% complete projects lying around, and so I wanted to know what the standard process should be for releasing a package of

[Pharo-users] deselecting individual items with beMultiple

If I have a gl fast table with #beMultiple enabled, is there a way for me to select non-contiguous items? Eg - item 1 - item 2 - item 3 Using shift, I can highlight items 1&2 or 1-3, but not 1&3, excluding 2. Some listing interfaces in non-pharo applications allow control clicking to deselect

[Pharo-users] Stream API

I've heard mention once or twice on this list and in some release notes of what sounded like possible coming changes to the stream API. Could anyone point me to any concrete details about that? I haven't been able to dig anything up myself by searching. I'm about to write something that I'd like

Re: [Pharo-users] LiteratureResearcher - where graphs, PDFs, and BibTex happily live together

This looks great. What would it take to get it running on Ubuntu? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] gtInspector override default select behavior

Perfect. Do you know if these methods are systematically documented anywhere? I feel like if I understood Glamour better these things might be more obvious, but I can never manage to infer the gtInspector calls from the Glamour docs. Thanks. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-users] Best Practices for Bundling Documentation

Gracias, pronto lo reviso. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Best-Practices-for-Bundling-Documentation-tp4958788p4959140.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] Best Practices for Bundling Documentation

Ok, thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Best-Practices-for-Bundling-Documentation-tp4958788p4959139.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Pharo-users] gtInspector override default select behavior

Hello, I have a gtInspector extension a tree-structured object. By default, when I click on one of the objects in the gtInspector, the inspector opens up another inspector on that node (using the finder-style display). What I would like to know is, is it possible to override the default click

Re: [Pharo-users] Best Practices for Bundling Documentation

Hello, The projects are a logic programming and machine learning system respectively, so they probably warrant more involved tutorial-style documentation. I will take a look at the Pillar docs, but just to think ahead a bit, assuming I write up some docs in Pillar, what would be the best way to

[Pharo-users] Best Practices for Bundling Documentation

Hello, I'm working on cleaning up a couple of projects for release, and I was wondering what the best practices were for including appropriate documentation with projects. Should I just drop a text blob in a prominent class comment? Is there a tool for structuring documentation? Is documentation

[Pharo-users] Performance Testing Tools

Hi, I've been doing a lot of performance testing lately, and I've found myself wanting to upgrade my methods from ad hoc use of bench and message tally. Is there any kind of framework for like, statistically comparing improvements in performance benchmarks across different versions of code, or

Re: [Pharo-users] Prolog in Pharo

Hi, Yes, I am planning to move it to github, which is part of why I didn't get around to keeping the sth version synced. I have just managed to get iceberg working, so hopefully I won't have any trouble uploading it. That said, I am still a little unclear on how to specify dependencies on other

Re: [Pharo-users] Prolog in Pharo

Hi, just saw this. Smallkanren is complete and under very active development, I just haven't put a new version up in a while because I didn't think that anyone was using it. I'm currently cleaning up a new release and was planning to upload that in the next few days. It should have full support

Re: [Pharo-users] Wandering Through Dependency Hell

Ok, I think this case is closed. Having gotten my code out of the image with Monticello and manual recompile, I can use versionner for upload if and only if I do it in Pharo6. Likewise, I can use it for download if and only if I do it in Pharo6. Pharo5 breaks in strange ways on both ends, even

[Pharo-users] Basic Iceberg First Commit

Hello, I am trying to get Iceberg working. I have a new Pharo 6 image as of about 5 minutes ago, and I am following the tutorial here: https://github.com/pharo-vcs/iceberg I get as far as cloning the repository, but when I enter my github ssh url and hit "Create repository" I get

Re: [Pharo-users] Wandering Through Dependency Hell

Thanks for the replies. With Juraj's help, I figured out the first layer of my problem. I needed to recompile all the methods after loading the code with Monticello, because their bytecode was all messed up. Now I can get code out of the image via plain Monticello. Tests were failing not because

[Pharo-users] Wandering Through Dependency Hell

Hello, I was wondering if there was a resource somewhere that laid out a best practice for how to manage version control in Pharo. I know *how* to use Monticello and Versionner, but something about the way I use them inevitably dooms my efforts to the darkest circles of dependency hell, where

Re: [Pharo-users] What is the craziest bug you ever face

Yeah, that sounds right. The debugger needed to be able to step through lines of code like normal (to debug the logic framework) as well as to step through search steps (to debug programs written in the framework) defined in terms of the system semantics (since bugs could be in either program or

Re: [Pharo-users] What is the craziest bug you ever face

I should add that users of the logic framework from non-smalltalk languages were very impressed by the potential. Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-is-the-craziest-bug-you-ever-face-tp4937984p4938040.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive

Re: [Pharo-users] What is the craziest bug you ever face

I actually have a whole class of bugs and elements of a very Pharo-y solution. I do a lot of work in a logic programming framework. Being a logic programming framework, it does not execute the code you write in a start-to-finish manner, but executes a few lines here, then jumps around and

Re: [Pharo-users] Socket, network, testing and coding

Hi, Depending on what exactly you are doing, you could either use or look at the source of: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~EvanDonahue/P2P It is basically a simple API for setting up image-to-image networked communication. You make a server object, set it running, and then open a connection from

Re: [Pharo-users] Japanese Fonts

Hi, thanks for the reply. FreeType disable/reenable seems to have done the trick. It loaded up my system fonts, and I was able to select Noto Sans CJK JP, which seems to do the trick. For reference, this is on Pharo 6 #60334. I also installed this for text entry:

[Pharo-users] Japanese Fonts

Hello, I am trying to get Japanese characters to show up in my Pharo image. Following some advice I found on google, I have set my font to something that I think should handle Japanese characters: defaultFont := LogicalFont familyName: 'Droid Sans Fallback' pointSize: 18. StandardFonts

[Pharo-users] Contributing code

Hello, I wanted to ask if there was a good resource I could use to learn how to find out about current bugs and submit patches/code/contributions to the core Pharo classes (or other major Pharo projects). I'd like to be able to fix the things I encounter, I've just never gotten around to learning

Re: [Pharo-users] CodeGenerator, your opinions?

So this isn't a specific out-of-the-box solution to any of the code-generation use cases people have been discussing, but I thought it was relevant enough to toss it out there. I'm currently doing some work on program synthesis using a Pharo port of the miniKanren logic programming language

Re: [Pharo-users] What should I name my nested packages?

Yes, that looks like it. Thanks. Relatedly, do I correctly infer that tags only organise /within/ packages, and so cannot be downloaded separately? Thank you, Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-should-I-name-my-nested-packages-tp4898193p4898399.html Sent from

[Pharo-users] What should I name my nested packages?

Hello, Just a quick question as I work on refactoring and cleaning up a project I've been working on. I notice that packages like Fuel appear in nice, nested hierarchies in my code browser, with 'Core' nested under 'Fuel' even though 'Core's package name is actually Fuel-Core. I'm wondering what

Re: [Pharo-users] Is lazy evaluation of infinite series possible?

Hello, Other people are probably better qualified to weigh in on the best ways to manage packages in a Pharo image, but this is what I do: 1) Left click on the "desktop" to bring up the "world menu" and select "Monticello Browser." 2) Click the "+Repository" button and select "smalltalkhub.com"

Re: [Pharo-users] Is lazy evaluation of infinite series possible?

Hello, I know infinite series are mentioned in the numerical methods book, although I haven't worked with those classes specifically. http://files.pharo.org/books/numerical-methods/2016-04-NumericalMethods.pdf You could also use a LazyList, depending on what you were doing, from

Re: [Pharo-users] Machine learning in Pharo

Hello, I added a "MachineLearning" repository to Smalltalkhub a while back, but I got sidetracked before adding anything beyond a naive KNN classifier, which was really just to help prototype the testing framework. That said, my plans involve expanding the library extensively this summer in

Re: [Pharo-users] Nesting Builders in Roassal

Hello, I got that working, and a bit more besides, and things are starting to look pretty good. However, I've run into another issue I'm not sure how to resolve. Recognizing that, as you mentioned, nested builders are something of a bleeding edge feature, I'm happy to try to contribute code if

Re: [Pharo-users] Nesting Builders in Roassal

Hello, Many thanks for the reply. This indeed solves part of my problem, and does what I expect (although in the smalltalkhub / ObjectProfile / development code, only RTView has #asElement, not RTBuilder). Given this, I think I can give an example of the real stumbling block I'm facing (although

[Pharo-users] Nesting Builders in Roassal

Hello, I am working with Roassal and trying to write a cell-layout builder that uses RTPieBuilders internally as its nested objects. The nesting docs cover nesting RT elements, but not builders. The composition docs cover composing builders, but not nesting them. I have a partial solution, but it

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal2 on Ubuntu 64

Aha, I followed the Quick Start at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/AgileVisualization/QuickStart/0101-QuickStart.html and didn't notice anything there. Cheers, Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Roassal2-on-Ubuntu-64-tp4883675p4884245.html Sent from the

Re: [Pharo-users] Roassal2 on Ubuntu 64

D'oh. Yep, this did it. I think I've been bitten by 32 bits before both on sound and on file opening. One day I'll learn, and on that day, Pharo will be 64 bit. Thanks, Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Roassal2-on-Ubuntu-64-tp4883675p4883840.html Sent from the Pharo

[Pharo-users] Roassal2 on Ubuntu 64

Hello, I'm trying to learn Roassal, but I can't seem to get the first visualization from https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/31543901/AgileVisualization/QuickStart/0101-QuickStart.html working on any combination of image and vm. I've tried the vm+40 and vm+50 from get.pharo and the moose 6.0

[Pharo-users] Machine Learning in Pharo

I saw a post on pharo-dev a little while ago about adding some machine learning libraries to pharo, and I was just wondering if there have been any developments on that front. I'm about to do some machine learning work myself, so it might make sense to coordinate with anyone out there already

Re: [Pharo-users] distributed peer2peer sharing app in Pharo

Hello, Just to follow up on Juraj's reply: Trantor is a framework for distributed applications. The basic idea is that you can establish a p2p network between various images, and then build applications using a set of specialized distributed collections that can be plugged into the p2p network

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

Ah, yes, by 'offline' I did mean outside of the mailing list, but that was purely out of consideration for the list. If the list wants to hear it, far be it from me to keep it from them. For my part, I am a graduate student working on my dissertation, and I have been trying to build tools to

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal wiki / information manager

Seems that Pharo is a magnet for this kind of project. I've been writing one as well and using it to organize my research notes. Does anyone working on personal info mgmt tools want to talk offline? I expect we're running into some of the same issues, both conceptual and technical. Evan

Re: [Pharo-users] Rule engine

I would be curious to hear more about the various projects mentioned in this thread. I am working on a constraint logic system that has been used as a backend for a variety of inference systems in other languages. Thanks, Evan -- View this message in context:

[Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

Hello, I'm trying to get sounds working in Pharo and I seem to be unable to locate a combination of PharoExtras/Sound and image/vm version that add up to audible sound. The best I've done so far is pharo3/sound6.1, which lets me beep, and write sounds to wav files, but the primitive for playing

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

That did the trick. Thanks. Evan -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Sound-of-Silence-tp4801562p4801633.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

64-bit Arch linux 3.17.6-1-ARCH I seem to be running pulse-audio with alsa, and I believe I have all the 32-compadibility libraries installed, but my experience with linux sound is limited. What is Pharo expecting? Thanks, Evan -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-users] issue with and/or inlining

Hmm, so that works when I annotate my test class, but I probably shouldn't be exporting pragma concerns to my end users. Was your other suggestion about dealing with the warning itself something I could do, or were you referring to a change to pharo itself? In case it's relevant, the warning also

[Pharo-users] issue with and/or inlining

Hello, I'm currently working on an embedding of the miniKanren logic programming language in Pharo (http://minikanren.org/) and I have run into an issue with the method compilation internals I was hoping someone could shed some light on: miniKanren has an operator, fresh, that basically

[Pharo-users] Building 64-bit pharo VM

Hello, I am working on building a 64-bit pharo vm to open large files, as per a previous question to the list. I have gone down a few roads from different dates and with different basic strategies and met with little success so far. Could someone recommend the best place to look for the vm build

[Pharo-users] Glamour stream presentations

Hello, I was just wondering if it was possible to use list/table presentations (or an analogous presentation) in Glamour to display streams that load on demand as you page through them (rather than loading all entries into memory before displaying the first page). If not, does anyone have any

Re: [Pharo-users] Trouble opening large files

a small file with the same name, the same command successfully finds the file. I am not sure how large a file must be to cause this issue, but A 1.5G file works fine. On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote: 2014-10-14 6:38 GMT+02:00 Evan Donahue emdon...@gmail.com: Hi

Re: [Pharo-users] Trouble opening large files

is still valid on recent squeak vm. http://bugs.squeak.org/view.php?id=7522 2014-10-14 17:43 GMT+02:00 Evan Donahue emdon...@gmail.com: The OS is Arch Linux. I can read the file with less. The problem, insofar as I can trace it, seems to stem from this line in UnixStore: Primitives

Re: [Pharo-users] Trouble opening large files

On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-10-13 21:27 GMT-03:00 Evan Donahue emdon...@gmail.com: Hello, I've run into some odd behavior and wanted to check whether I might be missing something: I have downloaded a copy of the english

[Pharo-users] Trouble opening large files

Hello, I've run into some odd behavior and wanted to check whether I might be missing something: I have downloaded a copy of the english wikipedia as an xml file and am hoping to (sax) parse it. However, I can't even seem to get pharo to recognize that the file exists. If I open FileSystem disk

Re: [Pharo-users] Trouble opening large files

the outcome is: 'path/to/your/large/file.xml' asFileReference humanReadableSize ? Cheers, Doru On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 2:27 AM, Evan Donahue emdon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've run into some odd behavior and wanted to check whether I might be missing something: I have downloaded

Re: [Pharo-users] Versionner and issue tracking

Halos! Of course! Thanks, new smalltalker here. Your advice in the other message proved key. I had set the ConfigurationOf's repo, but didn't realize I had to manually set the repo for each package on the commit screen. I have now uploaded and downloaded to a new image and everything works.

[Pharo-users] Versionner and issue tracking

Hello, I am working on figuring out how to upload my first project to smalltalkhub. I am using Versionner and when I commit, I am presented with a prompt for Retrieve Slice title with a field for issue number and title. Since I have no issue tracking for my project that I am aware of, I am unsure

Re: [Pharo-users] Versionner and issue tracking

pharo --version returns 3.9-7 and the image's about pane lists Latest update: #30848 Is either of those the relevant statistic? I should also note that I can't seem to find a way to dismiss the issue tracker window one way or another and ended up killing the vm process. Probably missing something

[Pharo-users] Monticello vs Metacello dependency management

Hello, I am working on getting a project into Monticello, and I am trying to understand the difference between letting Monticello handle package dependencies and setting up a metacello configurationOf class. In particular: PBE2 describes a technique of adding a MyProject-All package that