Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-25 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
So, we're going to have Markdown for the wiki and probably for documentation (via GitBooks)..., which is not surprising considering the vast amount of support such documentation format has and the extensions for a complete documentation toolchain and features. As I said, I think that is an

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D.
Le 25/08/2017 à 11:04, H. Hirzel a écrit : > Hello Stephane > > On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > [...] >> >> This is good that there is Section 7 this in the doc. [1] We started to >> build a simple Morphic renderer for Pillar. >> We should continue. If someone

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Tudor Girba
Hi, Just for information: Pillar already ships with a live editor with syntax highlighting that I built a couple of years ago. And there are two inspector presentations available: - If you inspect a class, you will get a Pillar comment presentation with syntax highlighting - If you inspect a

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

2017-08-25 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
+1 On 24/08/17 11:49, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > lol by far the most funny pharo teaser I have watched and the tool > looks extra useful , well done :) > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:33 PM Benoit Verhaeghe > > wrote: > > Hi

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Peter Uhnák
> > > Please note the embedded picture. > Only now I've realized that it is an embedded view and not just an opened moose panel, looking forward to this! Peter

Re: [Pharo-users] Call for Spanish/ Portuguese and more subtitles for the PharoMooc

2017-08-25 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
Hi, For video translation, I think that the best tool out there is Amara. I have added a Pharo MOOC video myself at [1] and we made the translation of the Grafoscopio video[2] in really short time, without any previous experience. I really recommend this tool for the Pharo MOOC videos. [1]

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
The package contains two approaches to render a Pillar document object to Morphic. 1. PRVisitor subclass: #PRMorphWriter 2. PRDocumentWriter subclass: #PRMorphWriter2 The class comment for PRDocumentWriter says I'm the superclass of all classes supposed to output a pier document to a text

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo wiki , is here

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/25/17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 11:32 PM Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > >> You have Netstyle/Workflow too. >> > > done > > "Why are you using markup documents to create the wiki when you could > use Github wiki itself? >

[Pharo-users] Tutorial: Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo (Zinc HTTP Components)

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello There is a tutorial Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo at zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html It is for Pharo 2 and 3. Does it still work in Pharo 6? Regards Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn classes documentation in Pharo 6? ZnClient and ZnServer tutorials?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/25/17, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hannes, > > Zinc HTTP Components started in 2010 and has been part of Pharo since > version 1.3. Like Pharo it evolves (no longer on a fundamental level, but > certainly on features and details). Over the years lots of documentation has >

[Pharo-users] Zn classes documentation in Pharo 6? ZnClient and ZnServer tutorials?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Zn classes are included in Pharo 6. I did not find a link to the main documentation in the help system. Is http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html still the main document? The class comment of ZnClient includes an example. I am looking for have some more examples / explanations how to use

Re: [Pharo-users] Tutorial: Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo (Zinc HTTP Components)

2017-08-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
> On 25 Aug 2017, at 11:35, H. Hirzel wrote: > > Hello > > There is a tutorial >Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo > > at >zn.stfx.eu/zn/index.html > > It is for Pharo 2 and 3. > > Does it still work in Pharo 6? Yes, but this document is

[Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Stephane On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse wrote: [...] > > This is good that there is Section 7 this in the doc. [1] We started to > build a simple Morphic renderer for Pillar. > We should continue. If someone wants to have fun. This would be nice > to have see it

[Pharo-users] Call for Spanish/ Portuguese and more subtitles for the PharoMooc

2017-08-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi guys The Pharo is a wonderful vehicule to promote Pharo and we need your help to translate the subtitles to different languages. This year we will have english voices paid by Inria (thanks) but we cannot do everything and we need your help.

Re: [Pharo-users] Zn classes documentation in Pharo 6? ZnClient and ZnServer tutorials?

2017-08-25 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hannes, Zinc HTTP Components started in 2010 and has been part of Pharo since version 1.3. Like Pharo it evolves (no longer on a fundamental level, but certainly on features and details). Over the years lots of documentation has been written, not all of it is still maintained. I would say the

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

2017-08-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Hi Benoit, I am not really sure how to use SmartTest. I have enabled all the options in the setting browser, but when I code, it somehow get stuck: Any idea? Updating critiques… Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-25 Thread Craig Latta
Hi-- > > > ...10mbs which is the size pharo image can be reduced to is > > > nothing for todays TBs hard drives and GBs flash drives and > > > online storage. Unless you do an embedded app and 10 mbs are huge > > > for your limited storage. > > > > Or you want to minimize initial startup time,

[Pharo-users] [DesktopManager][Question] How do I jump to a particular desktop?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello I have loaded your DesktopManager package into Pharo 6/6.1. It is useful as always! A remark: If I open a new desktop the desktop is white and not black (New Pharo 'dark' theme). I have to choose the theme manually through the 'Settings' dialog, searching for 'theme' and then reconfirming

Re: [Pharo-users] [DesktopManager][Question] How do I jump to a particular desktop?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. I just realized that the 'Spotter' opens a desktop if I search for it. So with some specific naming I can quickly switch desktops this way as well. On 8/25/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I have loaded your DesktopManager package into Pharo 6/6.1. It is > useful

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
I assume it is a Pillar-Exporter ... On 8/25/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello Stephane > > On 8/24/17, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > [...] >> >> This is good that there is Section 7 this in the doc. [1] We started to >> build a simple Morphic renderer

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hannes in the repo Pillar-Renderer-StephaneDucasse.7 It was a couple of hours hacking but it shows how to do it. Stef On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:57 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: > BTW I am looking for a **renderer** only. Not an editor at the moment. > > On 8/25/17, H.

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Ideally we should add the pillar element to the associated morphic to manage back link from the renderer to the pillar tree. But this is to be done. On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hannes > > in the repo > Pillar-Renderer-StephaneDucasse.7 > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Thanks, Doru for the update on a Pillar editor with support for the new Bloc framework. It looks fine and I am aware of this effort. But as I wrote in spite of the Bloc efforts I am interested to see what has been done in terms of a Morphic renderer for Pillar. I imagine what has been done so

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-25 Thread Dimitris Chloupis
I still dont know what opening has to do with transmitting, even when you do it remotely , a socket / websocket connection should be all you need. For me transmitting the entire image would be necessary only in the case you want to install it remotely and that remote location has no immediate

Re: [Pharo-users] Where do I find a Pillar syntax summary?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
At the moment my interest is to have a description of all the Pillar syntax features Pharo 5 and 6 supports. a) in an example document b) as a list As for Pillar syntax versions: I can imagine that there have been changes in the past. I just don't know. And there might be changes in the future.

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Installed the Pillar document preparation system into 6.1, how do I start using it?

2017-08-25 Thread Norbert Hartl
> Am 24.08.2017 um 22:34 schrieb Stephane Ducasse : > > In Pharo 60 (and not in Pharo 50) I extracted the command line logic > into a specific object so that we do not have to be bound to use the > command line. You can have a look in the CLI package. > > This is good

Re: [Pharo-users] SmartTest - ESUG 2017 - Trailer

2017-08-25 Thread Tudor Girba
The bar is getting higher :) Doru > On Aug 24, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Stephane Ducasse > wrote: > > :) > Ready for the ESUG innovation award competition. > > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Dimitris Chloupis > wrote: >> lol by far the most

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Alexandre Bergel
Gorgeous! Alexandre Sent from my iPad > On 25-08-2017, at 10:48 a.m., H. Hirzel wrote: > > Stephane, > > Thank you. > The rendering seems to be very useful as is. > > The screen shot shows what you get if you execute > >PRMorphInterface new openWithSpec. > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Morphic renderer for Pillar?

2017-08-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Feel free to enhance it. It was fun to hack the visitor and to flesh the renderer on the fly. On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:48 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: > Stephane, > > Thank you. > The rendering seems to be very useful as is. > > The screen shot shows what you get if you execute

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-25 Thread Tim Mackinnon
Mariano's PhD was on this - as mentioned it to me a few weeks ago. This was one of the reasons for building fuel - to enable this sort of thing on top - and he proved it worked. Dimitrus - the idea is to I have a small core that loads quick and then less used elements can be paged in when

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-25 Thread TedVanGaalen
note btw in the screenshot that that some text in the dialogue boxes are not completely drawn, like “Advanced featur..”, "Cache siz…”, “Glyph contras…”, etc. this doesn’t change when the column width is increased with the mouse. TedvG > On 25. Aug 2017, at 15:55, Ted F.A.van Gaalen

Re: [Pharo-users] [DesktopManager][Question] How do I jump to a particular desktop?

2017-08-25 Thread Torsten Bergmann
Hi Hannes, Code is on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/DesktopManager which points to this article: https://medium.com/@astares/multiple-desktops-for-pharo-5cbc46f3179f which should explain the details and that you can access the desktops using: Desktop manager desktops You can

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading and saving packages to filetree repos

2017-08-25 Thread Peter Uhnák
Apart from the things I mentioned to you on discord (fileout through FileWriter, etc)... another idea came into my mind that could be possibly interesting. Every time a thing (Class, Method, ...) is created/changed/deleted, an event is announced in the system that you can watch for. (e.g.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-25 Thread TedVanGaalen
Hi Ben, Did the following - restoring Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/libFT2Plugin.dylib (by renaming its extension back to .dylib) - started Pharo -setting use Free type ON -setting Update fonts at start ON it then immediately starts loading fonts, (which I thought might be a good idea

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-25 Thread Tim Mackinnon
I don't think it's just on Mac Mini - my MacBook Pro late 13" 2016 retina will show similar symptoms if I try and resize the window to full screen (not the maximise button, but try and drag the bottom corner of the world to the last 5-10 pixels at the bottom of the screen). I think Ted noticed

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

2017-08-25 Thread TedVanGaalen
Hi John, … thanks. another wild, wild guess: it could then perhaps be, (if Pharo uses Open GL) that my graphics card has Open GL incompatibility? or that Pharo 6.1 uses Open GL calls not implemented on an Intel HD Graphics 4000 chip as in my mac mini? kind regards TedvG > On 25. Aug 2017,

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading and saving packages to filetree repos

2017-08-25 Thread Luke Gorrie
On 20 August 2017 at 12:50, stephan wrote: > I'm afraid you might do newbies a disservice by adding yet another way of > loading and saving combinations of packages. I have been reflecting on this point a bit. I think there are two relevant classes of newbies here. One is

[Pharo-users] [Ann][Pillar] Travis -> Bintray for PDFs

2017-08-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Hi with Damien Pollet, we went over all the booklets and some of the Pharo books currently written in Pillar and made sure that each time you commit - a travis job is run - latex is produced as well as pdf - the pdf is stored on bintray - the release versions are stored on the github repo (I

Re: [Pharo-users] [DesktopManager][Question] How do I jump to a particular desktop?

2017-08-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Torsten Thank you for the links to the DeskTopManager documentation. I know can use playgrounds with expressions like (Desktop manager desktops detect: [ :dt | dt name = 'Pillar Morphic Renderer']) useAsDesktop. and (Desktop manager desktops detect: [ :dt | dt name =

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pillar] Installed the Pillar document preparation system into 6.1, how do I start using it?

2017-08-25 Thread Tudor Girba
On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Norbert Hartl wrote: > > >> Am 24.08.2017 um 22:34 schrieb Stephane Ducasse : >> >> In Pharo 60 (and not in Pharo 50) I extracted the command line logic >> into a specific object so that we do not have to be bound to use

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Ann][Pillar] Travis -> Bintray for PDFs

2017-08-25 Thread Serge Stinckwich
This is great Stef ! I'm waiting for the documentation to update all my projects with the new process. On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi > > with Damien Pollet, we went over all the booklets and some of the > Pharo books currently written

Re: [Pharo-users] Minimizing an Application

2017-08-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse
It is always easier to start than to finish something. :) For the small core we are getting there as Guillermo work showed it to us. 70 is bootstrap from source. Do you believe it? It is real and tangible. People can do it on their own machine. And this is just the start. Now we have our roadmap