Re: [Phono-L] Zonophone Grand Opera Questions

In a message dated 7/16/2009 2:18:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, a...@popyrus.com writes: Is there any specific information available at all about the month or dates in 1904 in which Victor acquired Zonophone? --- according to PHP, Victor acquired the UTMMfgCo in Sept

Re: [Phono-L] W. H. Taft cylinder question

In a message dated 7/27/2009 11:08:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maff...@bresnan.net writes: I bought 25 Edison 2 min cylinders today, and included in the lot, were some W H Taft cylinders. I am wondering how many cylinders he recorded. I have 4: 9996, 9997, , and 10001. It looks

[Phono-L] Bettini?

Hi, Are there any Bettini Speed-Indicators (No. 2) out there? They usually give a read-out of 120 rpm, for brown wax cylinders. Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

[Phono-L] unusual Berliner disc

Hi Does anyone know much about a 7 Berliner disc, #966, 'My Polly's a Peach'? Someone has this, sung by Mr. Thomas (1896), and it (this take and artist) is unlisted in the Charosh book. Who was Mr Thomas? Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list

[Phono-L] Model L?

Hi, A friend is looking for a nice Model L reproducer (sapphire stylus) for an Opera - what price range can he expect to pay these days? I don't see any on eb*y at the moment. Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] Strange cylinder machine at local auction.

In a message dated 8/21/2009 11:02:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tuban...@aol.com writes: tags on it and what they mean. One says THE UNITED STATES PHONOGRAPH CO, NEWARK N.J. AND THE OTHER SAYS This Machine is sold by THE NORTH AMERICAN PHONOGRAPH COMPANY under the restriction that

Re: [Phono-L] Edison's A-250 DD

In a message dated 10/18/2009 12:59:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, maxbu...@wowway.com writes: T.A.s work on microgroove recordings can be noted as early as 1899. (cylinder of course) - Looking at our re-issued Program to the Electric Club (delivered by Ezra Gilliland

Re: [Phono-L] Looking For The Fred Barnum Book

In a message dated 11/2/2009 6:33:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kugl...@wmconnect.com writes: Hi - Does anyone have or know when I can find a copy of this book (by Fred barnum)? Any help very much appreciated. Thanks. -- We used to sell this limited-edition title, but it

Re: [Phono-L] source for Columbia companion vol 2

In a message dated 11/2/2009 9:10:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, chris...@cox.net writes: There are three copies here -- all expensive: http://www.addall.com/SuperRare/RefineExact.fcgi?id=091102180443984607order =TITLEordering=ASCdispCurr=USDexaAuthor=Bob+Baumbachmatch=YexaTitle=Col

Re: [Phono-L] Violin phonograph

In a message dated 1/12/2010 1:58:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tom...@msn.com writes: It came up for me. I would think that the weight of the violin would shred the records played on it. It looks like a Creation to me. But the 'Palmodian' was an invented item and

Re: [Phono-L] Violin phonograph

In a message dated 1/12/2010 2:41:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tom...@msn.com writes: Was the idea that the violin body would resonate and produce a better sound? -- According to the re-issued Berliner Gramophone Co. Instructions (p. 8) from June 1, 1896, a violin or

Re: [Phono-L] Violin phonograph

In a message dated 1/12/2010 3:05:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ander...@tampabay.rr.com writes: If a company made this for mass production, wouldn't they leave the strings , neck and tuners off of it? My opinion is that it is a cobble job. --- To see how the actual

Re: [Phono-L] Violin phonograph

In a message dated 1/12/2010 3:21:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, allena...@aol.com writes: (see below) To see how the actual violin was used (as intended), see the following patents and illustrations (info from PHP): (cf. H. O. Buffet's Brit. pat. # 2160 3015/ of 1913). An intermediate

Re: [Phono-L] Allen Hough

In a message dated 1/19/2010 5:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gbogan...@charter.net writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Allen-Hough-Turntable-Record-Player-Phonograph_W 0QQitemZ320475016810QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVintage_Electronics_R2?hash=item4a9dc cae6a - See this for

Re: [Phono-L] Need Address for Tim Fabrizio

In a message dated 2/1/2010 3:28:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: Sumner Tainter's 1881 Home Notes that appeared in For the Record the organ of the City of London Antique Phonograph and Gramophone Society that suggest that Tainter, not Berliner, was the

Re: [Phono-L] Cleaning a phonograph. Wax removing/serial#

In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:00:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, writes: My phonograph is a Spring Motor and I think it was bought in 1898 because of the record collection that was with it. Serial Number is 29251. That serial number seems more like the year 1900.

Re: [Phono-L] Hexaphone price reduced/

In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:19:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ge...@comcast.net writes: And an Edison Home timing device (rare and odd). http://www.flickr.com/photos/gerdan/sets/72157623456339863/ Hi Is there any info, besides the rpms, inscribed on the metal parts,

Re: [Phono-L] Hexaphone price reduced/

In a message dated 3/8/2010 6:31:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ge...@comcast.net writes (re Kemmer): Then in really really tiny letters on the bottom of what looks like white plastic (don't know what the material is though), under Home is The Whitehead and Hoag Co, Newark, N.J.

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Englewood Musicalphone

In a message dated 3/23/2010 8:43:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harveykrav...@yahoo.com writes: If you have any pictures of this elbow and the sunburst pattern of the horn, it will be greatly appreciated. --- Hi Harvey, No photos unfortunately, just the research on the

Re: [Phono-L] Columbia Englewood Musicalphone

In a message dated 3/23/2010 9:06:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, harveykrav...@yahoo.com writes: BTW, do you have a picture of a Columbia AY or AR elbow? -- Hi No photos unfortunately. Did Columbia make this model (Musicalphone) for Columbia? If so, what is the evidence?

Re: [Phono-L] Yankee Prince Phonograph

In a message dated 7/5/2010 9:27:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gbogan...@charter.net writes: I don't know what kind of copyright issues there may be, but I'd like to see some of the more timeless articles and studies from these early newsletters and magazines republished in ITG.

Re: [Phono-L] Contact Information needed/lateral

In a message dated 9/12/2010 2:14:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: notice that he, like virtually all writers on the subject, is ignorant of or has chosen to ignore Charles Sumner Tainter's 1880 Home Notes on deposit at the Smithsonian Institution

Re: [Phono-L] Contact Information needed/electro

In a message dated 9/12/2010 11:55:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: (Schoenherr): The Smithsonian has one earlier copper electroplated disc deposited Feb. 28, 1880 (NMAH #312,119), but it is unidentified. --- I may have missed some details here, but

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Opera on ebay

In a message dated 9/19/2010 5:42:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce78...@comcast.net writes: . The biggest change I can think of is the renaming of the machine to Concert. The very first Operas used some parts from the Amberola One. Allen

Re: [Phono-L] Crank/winding key for a Japanese Mikky Phone

In a message dated 9/24/2010 2:06:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu writes: Hello -- I hope someone on this list can help me with a tough problem. I have a 1930s Japanese Mikky Phone miniature phonograph which is missing the crank. Probably 1947, not

Re: [Phono-L] flat end gold molded

In a message dated 10/25/2010 1:52:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com writes: Kind of curious how many early , flat end Edison molded (wax) records are around. It seems many of these still have brown wax catalog numbers. I only have two. - do you

Re: [Phono-L] Victor Puzzle Record

In a message dated 10/27/2010 12:06:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: The selections on this record are four different types of music, which play randomly, depending on where or when you place the needle - very strange... Hi, The idea

Re: [Phono-L] early molded records

In a message dated 10/28/2010 4:58:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com writes: Steve,7000 series is what I have seen. I think that flat enders were made until about 1903,and yes, the surface is very thin, with thick ribs, the ribs on the cylinders. Are made.

Re: [Phono-L] This Day In Phongraph History

In a message dated 11/23/2010 10:11:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vinyl.visi...@live.com writes: Here is something that I found interesting. It is the first known use of a coin-op phonograph as a Jukebox in 1889. http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/11/1123first-jukebox

Re: [Phono-L] My experience with ANTIQUE EDISON - Seller's Name was/Frankenre...

In a message dated 12/10/2010 6:28:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: AND THAT MY FRIENDS IS MY EXPERIENCE WITH...\ --- Did I miss the final resolution of this interchange on the VI? Allen ___ Phono-L mailing

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Dealers in Northern California

In a message dated 12/19/2010 10:49:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: Does anyone know if there is a listing available anywhere for Edison Dealers in Northern California? I am searching for Rosa A. Agostini (later Rosa Lloyd). I recently obtained some Edison

Re: [Phono-L] Edison Dealers in Northern California

In a message dated 12/19/2010 2:00:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I was able to find a link to a California State Wood Landmarks Advisory Commission report, and one of the landmarks was Agostini Store, San Andreas, CA. I assume this would be her store.

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:09:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I also have a 2 min Columbia of President McKinley's Address at the Panama Exposition by Len Spencer -- Hi, is this title inscribed on the cylinder or obtained from the spoken

Re: [Phono-L] Political cylinders f/s

In a message dated 1/11/2011 12:23:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: It is inscribed, but I will double check the wording ('Panama') when I get home at lunch. -Original Message- doing some mind-reading here, how about: Pan-American exposition (1901)

Re: [Phono-L] PayPal shipping

In a message dated 1/16/2011 9:47:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: it is well worth it for me to be able just to drop it in the box and avoid the lines, especially when the PO is closed when I drive by at 6:20 am. but one is supposed to present

Re: [Phono-L] Puck Machines

In a message dated 1/17/2011 9:32:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: The Puck machines were made in Germany, starting with the original lyric design in 1901 -- Doesn't the Lyre-style Puck base go back to 1897-1898 (Bettini in the US and Bahre/Bolle

[Phono-L] Ed cyl 8999?

Hi On the gosong website, there is a reference to Edison 2-min black wax cyl #8999. Does anyone have this to check - is it really 'Yankee Land' but with no banjo (as listed in the cat's, by Ossman)? Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list

Re: [Phono-L] Let us not forget....

In a message dated 2/26/2011 2:13:15 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, majesticrec...@snet.net writes: the following link. http://www.truesoundtransfers.de/disco.htm You can search the document for different version of Star Spangled Banner. - The original (handwritten) factory

Re: [Phono-L] Eldridge Dictation Cylinders

In a message dated 2/26/2011 1:51:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mdsor...@aol.com writes: I have talked to Ron Dethlefson about it. He said he wrote an article for APM a number of years ago on Eldridge Dictation cylinders, but could not remember the issue, and didn't have a copy. I

Re: [Phono-L] Eldridge Dictation Cylinders/more

In a message dated 2/26/2011 2:01:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, allena...@aol.com writes: Will ask around. -- well, in the 1930s (and before), I have learned, there was a fellow named Edward Henry Eldridge , (Book) Title is: Eldridge's New Shorthand Dictation Exercises,

Re: [Phono-L] Eldridge Dictation Cylinders

In a message dated 2/27/2011 11:18:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lo...@oldcrank.com writes: One might wonder if this is the Eldridge (Edward Henry...) in question: http://www.archive.org/details/shorthanddictat00bridgoog Loran - wonder no longer, that's him (last name); he

Re: [Phono-L] Edison 2min Mexican cylinders

In a message dated 3/14/2011 4:02:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: I am always looking for Mexican Edisons, 2/4 and 2m BA, if anyone caresThey do go high though, especially the 2 minute BA ones. John The story behind the making and selling of

Re: [Phono-L] Zon -O -Phone

In a message dated 3/30/2011 11:06:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tom...@msn.com writes: This is a late model Zonophone Home. These were made after Victor bought the company in 1904.* - Make that purchase Sept 1903. allen ___

Re: [Phono-L] celluloid test pressing.

In a message dated 4/22/2011 4:24:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edisonphonowo...@hotmail.com writes: Allen, the kind of cylinder it is I have only heard of one other example, It could be any company working on a celluloid cylinder, as it had no title or number on it, there was no

[Phono-L] opera plugs?

Hi Is someone still making those little brass plugs for Edison Opera oil holes, and about how much are they going for these days (set of 4)? Thx. Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org

Re: [Phono-L] shrinking cylinder speed?

In a message dated 7/12/2011 3:56:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, esrobe...@hotmail.com writes: I've never heard of this. Must be a fascinating read. Where did you hear about cylinders being recorded at a different speed than the intended playback? that has to be the

Re: [Phono-L] columbia offshoots

In a message dated 9/19/2011 9:55:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, khwri...@hotmail.com writes: They likely aren't related, but there was a Canadian Symphonola. I would be curious to see pictures of yours. - Acc to 'The Trademarks of Recorded Sound,' there was a Symphonola Mfg

Re: [Phono-L] Odd cylinder

In a message dated 10/14/2011 12:42:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nickja...@gmail.com writes: I've been given some Pathe Salon cyls to sell for a friend - most are black wax but in the group are two brown wax that are slightly smaller than the Salon (perhaps 1/8 - 1/4).

Re: [Phono-L] Lambert Concert Cylinder Shrinkage

In a message dated 10/14/2011 2:49:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jim...@earthlink.net writes: Lambert Concert Cylinder has shrunk to the extent that it won't fit all the way onto the mandrel of my Edison Concert Phonograph.I don't want to risk damaging it but would like it to fit so I

Re: [Phono-L] Machines for Sale, offering to list first

Hi Peter, Do you have a photo of the lower cabinet and motor? Thx. Allen -- In a message dated 11/20/2011 1:03:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pjfra...@mac.com writes: this is the 65 lb big daddy with 6-spring motor, huge ornate oak case, 6 long mandrel, and 4 diameter

Re: [Phono-L] Machines for Sale, offering to list first/

six springs? allen In a message dated 11/22/2011 8:46:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pjfra...@mac.com writes: Not sure. Can you look at the pix and let me know? Sent from my iPhone ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org

Re: [Phono-L] Machines for Sale, offering to list first//

how many mainsprings (or barrels) does your photo show for the BC? allen -- In a message dated 11/23/2011 2:09:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pjfra...@mac.com writes: Feels like 18! A real bicep builder. Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [Phono-L] Source for the George L. Frow cylinder DiamondDisk bo...

Thank you for the reference. Our current webpage, and various book offerings, may be found at: _www.phonobooks.com_ (http://www.phonobooks.com) George Frow's books (on all the Edison cylinder AND disc machines) are very well researched. However, the one on cylinder

Re: [Phono-L] Ebay Berliner - Do you think this is legit?

Sad to say, it (the Lithuanian Berliner) is not legit. Allen In a message dated 1/29/2012 12:55:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, phonosju...@att.net writes: Agreed. I knew it was of little financial risk, just perhaps a time issue. I did call and speak to someone at Ebay based

Re: [Phono-L] Early European Edison Phonograph Recordings Released

Is ATEW's middle name really Theodor - I have always seen it as just Theo on old original documents. Seriously though, a great article in the NYT! Interested collectors can also see Wangemann's early output of cylinders for Edison (day by day) in 'ECR, 1889-1912.' Allen

Re: [Phono-L] Early European Edison Phonograph Recordings Released/ECR

Hi Art, The book, 'ECR, 1889-1912' contains a variety of detailed material pertaining to Edison (US) record production in those years. It contains all the regular brown wax cylinders (post-1897), i.e. until they were discontinued on July 25, 1902. It also lists and dates the Concert

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

but how can a person bid against himself if he is the only bidder? In a message dated 3/3/2012 4:38:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, john9...@pacbell.net writes: consecutive bids within a few minutes, bidding against himself each time, and taking the price from $599 to $1000.

Re: [Phono-L] eBay Shilling??

yes, but of course, it takes two to tango. (or to raise a bid)... allen --- In a message dated 3/4/2012 5:09:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, msprin...@gmail.com writes: Two possible ways to get a long series from the same* bidder. ___

Re: [Phono-L] AMET photos full screen?/

This # is probably mis-transcribed by the seller. Let's wait and see (verify). allen - In a message dated 3/21/2012 9:32:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clockworkh...@aol.com writes: Note the serial number of 90081* on the Class M topworks... odd, isn't it?

Re: [Phono-L] AMET 90081

Do you mean also in this 9 range? allen - In a message dated 3/23/2012 5:17:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, clockworkh...@aol.com writes: I have access to an M Class that is virtually identical with a serial only a few* numbers away.*

Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] Norcross Phonograph Co

I don't think so - the 185 rpm 'Jumbo' (2' dia. brown wax) was created by Leon Douglass. Allen In a message dated 4/21/2012 1:20:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com writes: I have a Jumbo as sold by TTM, Chicago ca 1899. (Plays at 185 rpm). Any

Re: [Phono-L] [phonolist] Norcross Phonograph Co

Given Douglass' close relationship to/with the Chicago company, I assume your cylinder is his - they came with a tan slip if I recall (with the rpm marked on it). Douglass was very interested in methods of increasing cyl volume, being (also) the inventor of the Polyphone. Allen

Re: [Phono-L] Maroon Amberol?

a typo*? allen --- In a message dated 11/27/2012 9:34:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, back...@yahoo.com writes: The numbers of the Royal Purples run from 28,101* up to 29007, according to my data base. ___ Phono-L mailing list

Re: [Phono-L] DECAL ID. on Red Banner Edison Home A-

Dennis, I was indeed responsible for that theory and published it (with illus) in APM. Obviously, it is anecdotal information, as the application of these decals (and possible chrono matching to chassis) was not done by TAE in any absolutely precise manner. However, I have never seen

Re: [Phono-L] Siam Soo record

Have you seen the extensive article on the doll and record in an old issue of APM? Allen In a message dated 1/14/2013 6:12:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, njce...@sbcglobal.net writes: There is a lot of buying history for the Siam Soo phono doll on the web.

Re: [Phono-L] Little Known Facts About Edison :)

Edison got along fine, for many years, with his friend and (Jewish) business partner, Sigmund Bergmann, who built several of his first phonographs. Allen -- In a message dated 1/26/2013 2:23:16 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, glast...@comcast.net writes: And just like his good

[Phono-L] Schwegler Bros card?

Hi, A little while back, on UK ebay, there was offered for sale (in PA) an old deck of playing cards, made by Schwegler Bros, (Buffalo, NY) showing the Nipper logo. _Victor His Master's Voice Logo Trade Advertising Playing Cards ..._

Re: [Phono-L] Electric pen

I think its purpose (the voting machine) was speeding-up the tabulation of the congressional voting procedure (to save time). But since the traditional procedure (state by state, etc) indeed took a lot of time, which allowed for ongoing arm-twisting, and persuasion, etc., no one really

Re: [Phono-L] Who Reprinted 1911 Edison Cat.../

I do not recall reprinting an Edison 1911 catalog with a wood grained cover. Perhaps Chuck Mandrake? Allen -- In a message dated 10/6/2013 5:06:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zonophone2...@aol.com writes: hi i believe allen k did them zono

Re: [Phono-L] edison's son made recording?/

Thank you, Patrick. I see that Francis Miller (1931) basically lifted the anecdote (regarding the baby crying on tinfoil, 'NY Herald') from Francis Jones' 1907 bio of Edison. Is it possible to push the story back further in time? The ("NY Herald") text that both authors used was

Re: [Phono-L] edison's son made recording?/

Thank you, Joan, I see your pp 177-179 reference in Miller's book as being from the 'New York Herald,' 1877. However, I think that Miller has mangled the citation, that it is really from 1895, and from the 'Philadelphia Inquirer.' Much thanks! Now to see if the story can be traced

Re: [Phono-L] Edison cylinder phonograph books?

Hi Do you already have the book on Edison wax (brown and black) cylinders from 1889-1912 (2" & 5"). It also has Wangemann's Log Book, day by day (1889-1892). Also has the Edison 4-min wax Amberols (by date, 1908-1912). It also comes with a comprehensive listing of Lambert celluloid

[Phono-L] edison's son made recording?

Hi Does anyone remember where the story of Edison's son ("Dash") making a tinfoil recording (1877-78) because his father pinched him, appears? Thanks. Allen ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Phono-L] edison's son made recording?/

Thanks again. Yes. Madeleine was born in late May of 1888, so there are some limitations with these stories. It does seem as if some of these accounts (of recording crying babies) have been, shall we say, "conflated." By the time of Miller's book on Edison (1931), the general version had